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Tim71 06 Jan 2006
#1
I know I've posted in various threads and read others who say they've been collecting since early teens or childhood years like I have been (off and on). Quite a few have become novice escape artist in that time like I too have. I'm sure I'm not the only one also, who while experimenting at home trying to thwart a pair of cuffs, has found themselves in a much harder predicament then intended.

When i was a teen I thought a couple times my parents were going to come home to find a stuck-in-handcuffs son. Never did happen though.

Anyone else have any experiences where you've dropped the key out of reach or anything like that? I remember being a teenager when something would go wrong a cold chilly sensation would run through me. Almost a sick sensation or even a brief moment of panic. I might even promise myself that if I got out I'd never try another stupid escape. Guess what though, I usually did. There was almost a weird exhilaration to it also. I have to say though it never did try anything life threatening though.

Anyone remember the story a few years back where the kid jumped in a pool while zipped up in a sleeping bag? Never did try that sort of thing though.

Tim
Dorson 06 Jan 2006
#2
Never really got stuck, I planned carefully and practiced step by step so it was second nature. I figured basically, if I could get into it, then I could get out of it... however, the sleeping bag thing, not my bag no pun intended...
Guess the thing to remember is practice, practice, practice...

-Dorson
Monica 06 Jan 2006
#3
I know I've posted in various threads and read others who say they've been collecting since early teens or childhood years like I have been (off and on). Quite a few have become novice escape artist in that time like I too have. I'm sure I'm not the only one also, who while experimenting at home trying to thwart a pair of cuffs, has found themselves in a much harder predicament then intended.

When i was a teen I thought a couple times my parents were going to come home to find a stuck-in-handcuffs son. Never did happen though.

Anyone else have any experiences where you've dropped the key out of reach or anything like that? I remember being a teenager when something would go wrong a cold chilly sensation would run through me. Almost a sick sensation or even a brief moment of panic. I might even promise myself that if I got out I'd never try another stupid escape. Guess what though, I usually did. There was almost a weird exhilaration to it also. I have to say though it never did try anything life threatening though.

Anyone remember the story a few years back where the kid jumped in a pool while zipped up in a sleeping bag? Never did try that sort of thing though.

Tim
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I think back to when I first became interested in escapes, and shudder at some of the predicaments that almost happened or that happened, but I lucked out. I'm amazed that, after all these years, nothing really super-embarassing or bad happened. Except one time just after I graduated from college. It was the last time I worked without supervision.

While practicing home alone one time, I broke my picking material off in both locks of a pair of S&W's. I got panicky because I could not dislodge the matter in order to use the key. My hands were cuffed behind me, so I worked to get them in front, but because my arms were sweaty and I had on a pair of new jeans and long sleeves (stupid!), I met w/ more resistance than usual (clothes matter). I struggled like a trapped animal and ended up with multiple, paired straight cuts on my wrists that lasted many days. I was able to get my hands in front, but couldn't dislodge enough of the pick material from the keyholes to get the key to work. So, I called the local police, who sent out an officer. He turned out to be this guy I used to quarrel with a lot in college. You should have seen the smile on his face when he saw me, and the look on my face when I saw him smiling so broadly. It took him about 40 minutes to get that stuff out of there (I was nervous, embarassed, and sweating profusely) so that he could unlock me. We became friends after that, so there is the silver lining (bad pun).

I was travelling to my parents house that weekend for a family gathering and, although nobody said anything about my obvious and peculiar cuts, I'm sure they thought I had attempted suicide. I had a story about catching a lunging cat at a friends' house already concocted.

These days, I have supervision (I can't be trusted by myself with these things). It's nice to have a hubby-partner who shares my interest as I can supervise him as well. There are times, though, when we lock ourselves together in ways that are like performing w/out a net. Who do we call for help, then?

BFW 06 Jan 2006
#4
I know I've posted in various threads and read others who say they've been collecting since early teens or childhood years like I have been (off and on). Quite a few have become novice escape artist in that time like I too have. I'm sure I'm not the only one also, who while experimenting at home trying to thwart a pair of cuffs, has found themselves in a much harder predicament then intended.

When i was a teen I thought a couple times my parents were going to come home to find a stuck-in-handcuffs son. Never did happen though.

Anyone else have any experiences where you've dropped the key out of reach or anything like that? I remember being a teenager when something would go wrong a cold chilly sensation would run through me. Almost a sick sensation or even a brief moment of panic. I might even promise myself that if I got out I'd never try another stupid escape. Guess what though, I usually did. There was almost a weird exhilaration to it also. I have to say though it never did try anything life threatening though.

Anyone remember the story a few years back where the kid jumped in a pool while zipped up in a sleeping bag? Never did try that sort of thing though.

Tim
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You folks are truly special.

I'm old enough now to tell this.

When I first became a cop, about the only "perks" you had were free coffee and movie passes.

I met this wonderful girl, and I'd used up all the free coffee I could on her, so I invited her to go with me to the movies.

To get into the movie house without paying for tickets, I had to be in uniform. So I was.

We sat down on the back row, got bored with the movie, ran out of popcorn and started playing with my handcuffs.

Now let me put this as politely as I can. Where I had been previously holding that sack of popcorn, she put the handcuffs on me and the other end on her wrist.

And somewhere in this scenario, with a set of Peerless 300's around my nether regions and conjoined with her, I went to take the key off my belt to get loose and dropped the damned thing, right down there in all that sticky junk every movie house in the world has on their floor.

And that was the only handcuff key I had.

Not wishing to expose myself to the contagions on that movie house floor, I had no choice but to arrest her and walk her out of the movie house in close contact.

Since that night, I've always made sure I had multiple handcuff keys about me. And for some strange reason, that wonderful girl never resisted that arrest I made over thirty years ago.
Monica 06 Jan 2006
#5
I know I've posted in various threads and read others who say they've been collecting since early teens or childhood years like I have been (off and on). Quite a few have become novice escape artist in that time like I too have. I'm sure I'm not the only one also, who while experimenting at home trying to thwart a pair of cuffs, has found themselves in a much harder predicament then intended.

When i was a teen I thought a couple times my parents were going to come home to find a stuck-in-handcuffs son. Never did happen though.

Anyone else have any experiences where you've dropped the key out of reach or anything like that? I remember being a teenager when something would go wrong a cold chilly sensation would run through me. Almost a sick sensation or even a brief moment of panic. I might even promise myself that if I got out I'd never try another stupid escape. Guess what though, I usually did. There was almost a weird exhilaration to it also. I have to say though it never did try anything life threatening though.

Anyone remember the story a few years back where the kid jumped in a pool while zipped up in a sleeping bag? Never did try that sort of thing though.

Tim
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I think evidence clearly shows that SHE arrested YOU!

BFW 06 Jan 2006
#6
I know I've posted in various threads and read others who say they've been collecting since early teens or childhood years like I have been (off and on). Quite a few have become novice escape artist in that time like I too have. I'm sure I'm not the only one also, who while experimenting at home trying to thwart a pair of cuffs, has found themselves in a much harder predicament then intended.

When i was a teen I thought a couple times my parents were going to come home to find a stuck-in-handcuffs son. Never did happen though.

Anyone else have any experiences where you've dropped the key out of reach or anything like that? I remember being a teenager when something would go wrong a cold chilly sensation would run through me. Almost a sick sensation or even a brief moment of panic. I might even promise myself that if I got out I'd never try another stupid escape. Guess what though, I usually did. There was almost a weird exhilaration to it also. I have to say though it never did try anything life threatening though.

Anyone remember the story a few years back where the kid jumped in a pool while zipped up in a sleeping bag? Never did try that sort of thing though.

Tim
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It was mutual consent. We were both under duress at the time.
Monica 06 Jan 2006
#7
I know I've posted in various threads and read others who say they've been collecting since early teens or childhood years like I have been (off and on). Quite a few have become novice escape artist in that time like I too have. I'm sure I'm not the only one also, who while experimenting at home trying to thwart a pair of cuffs, has found themselves in a much harder predicament then intended.

When i was a teen I thought a couple times my parents were going to come home to find a stuck-in-handcuffs son. Never did happen though.

Anyone else have any experiences where you've dropped the key out of reach or anything like that? I remember being a teenager when something would go wrong a cold chilly sensation would run through me. Almost a sick sensation or even a brief moment of panic. I might even promise myself that if I got out I'd never try another stupid escape. Guess what though, I usually did. There was almost a weird exhilaration to it also. I have to say though it never did try anything life threatening though.

Anyone remember the story a few years back where the kid jumped in a pool while zipped up in a sleeping bag? Never did try that sort of thing though.

Tim
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You both may have been under duress, but she had you by the popcorn, so to speak. You were more "in custody" than she was.
Cliffg37 06 Jan 2006
#8
I know I've posted in various threads and read others who say they've been collecting since early teens or childhood years like I have been (off and on). Quite a few have become novice escape artist in that time like I too have. I'm sure I'm not the only one also, who while experimenting at home trying to thwart a pair of cuffs, has found themselves in a much harder predicament then intended.

When i was a teen I thought a couple times my parents were going to come home to find a stuck-in-handcuffs son. Never did happen though.

Anyone else have any experiences where you've dropped the key out of reach or anything like that? I remember being a teenager when something would go wrong a cold chilly sensation would run through me. Almost a sick sensation or even a brief moment of panic. I might even promise myself that if I got out I'd never try another stupid escape. Guess what though, I usually did. There was almost a weird exhilaration to it also. I have to say though it never did try anything life threatening though.

Anyone remember the story a few years back where the kid jumped in a pool while zipped up in a sleeping bag? Never did try that sort of thing though.

Tim
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My worst was in college. I made some decent money doing what would have to be a form of busking. I was taking escape bets at dorm parties. Once I had my pick stolen by my room mates girlfrind. He know how I got out, and I did not know he had told her.

I lost the bet and sat there humiliated for about 15 minutes till they got tired of laughing at me.

I started carrying better hidden back up picks after that
Monica 06 Jan 2006
#9
I know I've posted in various threads and read others who say they've been collecting since early teens or childhood years like I have been (off and on). Quite a few have become novice escape artist in that time like I too have. I'm sure I'm not the only one also, who while experimenting at home trying to thwart a pair of cuffs, has found themselves in a much harder predicament then intended.

When i was a teen I thought a couple times my parents were going to come home to find a stuck-in-handcuffs son. Never did happen though.

Anyone else have any experiences where you've dropped the key out of reach or anything like that? I remember being a teenager when something would go wrong a cold chilly sensation would run through me. Almost a sick sensation or even a brief moment of panic. I might even promise myself that if I got out I'd never try another stupid escape. Guess what though, I usually did. There was almost a weird exhilaration to it also. I have to say though it never did try anything life threatening though.

Anyone remember the story a few years back where the kid jumped in a pool while zipped up in a sleeping bag? Never did try that sort of thing though.

Tim
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Did you eventually pay them back?
Cliffg37 06 Jan 2006
#10
I know I've posted in various threads and read others who say they've been collecting since early teens or childhood years like I have been (off and on). Quite a few have become novice escape artist in that time like I too have. I'm sure I'm not the only one also, who while experimenting at home trying to thwart a pair of cuffs, has found themselves in a much harder predicament then intended.

When i was a teen I thought a couple times my parents were going to come home to find a stuck-in-handcuffs son. Never did happen though.

Anyone else have any experiences where you've dropped the key out of reach or anything like that? I remember being a teenager when something would go wrong a cold chilly sensation would run through me. Almost a sick sensation or even a brief moment of panic. I might even promise myself that if I got out I'd never try another stupid escape. Guess what though, I usually did. There was almost a weird exhilaration to it also. I have to say though it never did try anything life threatening though.

Anyone remember the story a few years back where the kid jumped in a pool while zipped up in a sleeping bag? Never did try that sort of thing though.

Tim
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Well Monica,

I suppose in a sense I did. The people in the room who saw mw lose a bet all talked, and I ended up with more bets and more money for it.

The one girl in the room who was probably the meanest, took another bet with me, and I threw the stipultion in that if I won (and I did) that she would have to be cuffed.

So you can call that revenge if you wish.
Monica 06 Jan 2006
#11
I know I've posted in various threads and read others who say they've been collecting since early teens or childhood years like I have been (off and on). Quite a few have become novice escape artist in that time like I too have. I'm sure I'm not the only one also, who while experimenting at home trying to thwart a pair of cuffs, has found themselves in a much harder predicament then intended.

When i was a teen I thought a couple times my parents were going to come home to find a stuck-in-handcuffs son. Never did happen though.

Anyone else have any experiences where you've dropped the key out of reach or anything like that? I remember being a teenager when something would go wrong a cold chilly sensation would run through me. Almost a sick sensation or even a brief moment of panic. I might even promise myself that if I got out I'd never try another stupid escape. Guess what though, I usually did. There was almost a weird exhilaration to it also. I have to say though it never did try anything life threatening though.

Anyone remember the story a few years back where the kid jumped in a pool while zipped up in a sleeping bag? Never did try that sort of thing though.

Tim
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So, you cuffed her and then......?
grenchat 06 Jan 2006
#12
I know I've posted in various threads and read others who say they've been collecting since early teens or childhood years like I have been (off and on). Quite a few have become novice escape artist in that time like I too have. I'm sure I'm not the only one also, who while experimenting at home trying to thwart a pair of cuffs, has found themselves in a much harder predicament then intended.

When i was a teen I thought a couple times my parents were going to come home to find a stuck-in-handcuffs son. Never did happen though.

Anyone else have any experiences where you've dropped the key out of reach or anything like that? I remember being a teenager when something would go wrong a cold chilly sensation would run through me. Almost a sick sensation or even a brief moment of panic. I might even promise myself that if I got out I'd never try another stupid escape. Guess what though, I usually did. There was almost a weird exhilaration to it also. I have to say though it never did try anything life threatening though.

Anyone remember the story a few years back where the kid jumped in a pool while zipped up in a sleeping bag? Never did try that sort of thing though.

Tim
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Of the many part-time jobs that I performed during my school years, one was that of an apprentice locksmith. This opportunity came about as the result of a full-time locksmith being severely overworked, and threatening to leave the owner of the shop under staffed.
We had known each other practically since childhood, so when the disgruntled locksmith learned that I was in search of part-time employment, he offered to train me at his own expense, so that I would be able to cover for him at the shop on certain days. He was on call 24/7 for emergency lockout situations as well as having to handle retail functions at the store. Being engaged and with no immediate financial concerns, he would have soon quit the job, had it not been for me accepting the position. He assured the owner that I would at least not abscond with the cash. My initial days were spent learning key making, eventually leading up to basic lock picking theory. We had a table sized door portion with realistic hinges, dead bolt lock and frame set up to practice. I found this intriguing, but soon learned – much to my surprise – that locksmiths seldom actually pick locks; breaking them instead, as this is usually the fastest, most cost effective way to do business. For those occasions where picking was preferred, the pros had a lock picking gun, though I never actually trained on that. I also learned that the old fashioned locks were often the most difficult to pick (another surprise).

While the owner of the establishment never really appreciated my efforts -- being that I was in no way able to fill the shoes of a licensed pro -- I have no regrets about the learning experience – brass splinters and all. In addition, I gleaned a much greater understanding of how my handcuffs work. When probing for possible weaknesses, I generally try to master the technique without them being locked to mine or anyone else’s wrists, thus minimizing the chances of a potentially embarrassing situation. If all else fails, it pays to have some hacksaw blades and diamond wire handy.

Jason

Tim71 07 Jan 2006
#13
I know I've posted in various threads and read others who say they've been collecting since early teens or childhood years like I have been (off and on). Quite a few have become novice escape artist in that time like I too have. I'm sure I'm not the only one also, who while experimenting at home trying to thwart a pair of cuffs, has found themselves in a much harder predicament then intended.

When i was a teen I thought a couple times my parents were going to come home to find a stuck-in-handcuffs son. Never did happen though.

Anyone else have any experiences where you've dropped the key out of reach or anything like that? I remember being a teenager when something would go wrong a cold chilly sensation would run through me. Almost a sick sensation or even a brief moment of panic. I might even promise myself that if I got out I'd never try another stupid escape. Guess what though, I usually did. There was almost a weird exhilaration to it also. I have to say though it never did try anything life threatening though.

Anyone remember the story a few years back where the kid jumped in a pool while zipped up in a sleeping bag? Never did try that sort of thing though.

Tim
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I remember practicing at home as a youth and coming up with the notion of maybe my youth sized wrists would fit into one cuff. Well they did and all of a sudden I realized the angle of the keyhole had changed and my hads were starting to tingle as the bloodflow was being cut off. I knew I could put the key in my mouth and reach the lock but my panic attack made that much more difficult. Finally made it but it was a close one.

Monica, did you have to debate on whether or not to call the police for very long? Were you honest on the phone when you called them? I almost wonder if I'd have tried to drive to a hardware store or something like that.

Great stories. Man the theatre one was great too.

You know I've vacationed in Gatlinburg TN (honeymoon capital of the country) and noticed something. You can find handcuffs in most of the stores. Sure cheapo one but tells me there's probably been alot of people intriged with handcuffs.

Most of my mishaps were due to the handcuffs snapping shut when I didn't intend for them too. While testing out a concept to try to escape from.

Tim
The Amazing Michael 07 Jan 2006
#14
I know I've posted in various threads and read others who say they've been collecting since early teens or childhood years like I have been (off and on). Quite a few have become novice escape artist in that time like I too have. I'm sure I'm not the only one also, who while experimenting at home trying to thwart a pair of cuffs, has found themselves in a much harder predicament then intended.

When i was a teen I thought a couple times my parents were going to come home to find a stuck-in-handcuffs son. Never did happen though.

Anyone else have any experiences where you've dropped the key out of reach or anything like that? I remember being a teenager when something would go wrong a cold chilly sensation would run through me. Almost a sick sensation or even a brief moment of panic. I might even promise myself that if I got out I'd never try another stupid escape. Guess what though, I usually did. There was almost a weird exhilaration to it also. I have to say though it never did try anything life threatening though.

Anyone remember the story a few years back where the kid jumped in a pool while zipped up in a sleeping bag? Never did try that sort of thing though.

Tim
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Tim, go over to the magic cafe', to the "all tied up" section, and look up a thread called "stuck in an escape attempt". If the cafe' has not erased all of my posts, there will be an incredibly long, yet intriging stoy about an escape that went HORRIBLY wrong while I was performing on live television. I did get out (on my own), but what an experience!!! I don't have the strenth to re-type it here.

Cheers, Mike
Monica 07 Jan 2006
#15
I know I've posted in various threads and read others who say they've been collecting since early teens or childhood years like I have been (off and on). Quite a few have become novice escape artist in that time like I too have. I'm sure I'm not the only one also, who while experimenting at home trying to thwart a pair of cuffs, has found themselves in a much harder predicament then intended.

When i was a teen I thought a couple times my parents were going to come home to find a stuck-in-handcuffs son. Never did happen though.

Anyone else have any experiences where you've dropped the key out of reach or anything like that? I remember being a teenager when something would go wrong a cold chilly sensation would run through me. Almost a sick sensation or even a brief moment of panic. I might even promise myself that if I got out I'd never try another stupid escape. Guess what though, I usually did. There was almost a weird exhilaration to it also. I have to say though it never did try anything life threatening though.

Anyone remember the story a few years back where the kid jumped in a pool while zipped up in a sleeping bag? Never did try that sort of thing though.

Tim
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"Monica, did you have to debate on whether or not to call the police for very long? Were you honest on the phone when you called them? I almost wonder if I'd have tried to drive to a hardware store or something like that."

Tim, to answer your questions:

I always wondered if/when that moment came when I felt like I had to make that call, what I would do. Police? FD? Locksmith? Hardware store? Security company? Police equipment shop? Magic shop? Friend?

There were sufficent reasons in my mind to go ahead and call the police. I was in a hurry to get out as I had plans for the evening. I didn't want to be out in public w/ cuffs on - at least, ones I could not escape from. Adding to the hyper factor were that the cuffs were hinged and not double-locked (hard to do w/ hinged by one's self), so, in my panic to get my hands from back to front, I accidentally tightened them beyond the comfort zone.

The police could do a quick system check on me to make sure I wasn't an escapee, etc. (in certain states, a locksmith might have to have the police present in order to free a cuffed person); they have encountered dummies like me before, so they wouldn't act like it was the strangest thing they ever saw; they have keys, so they would be quick about it, and it helped that the local force used S&W's, so they had the right key for the job. Also, by calling the police, I would be limiting my exposure - 1 cop, 1 key, 1 story, 1 happy girl, - nobody else involved ya' know? In short, they make house calls!

I was honest and told them exactly what happened and told them I was sorry for bothering them with this because they have much more important work to do, and to take their time as I was in no imminent danger.
marie 09 Jan 2006
#16
I know I've posted in various threads and read others who say they've been collecting since early teens or childhood years like I have been (off and on). Quite a few have become novice escape artist in that time like I too have. I'm sure I'm not the only one also, who while experimenting at home trying to thwart a pair of cuffs, has found themselves in a much harder predicament then intended.

When i was a teen I thought a couple times my parents were going to come home to find a stuck-in-handcuffs son. Never did happen though.

Anyone else have any experiences where you've dropped the key out of reach or anything like that? I remember being a teenager when something would go wrong a cold chilly sensation would run through me. Almost a sick sensation or even a brief moment of panic. I might even promise myself that if I got out I'd never try another stupid escape. Guess what though, I usually did. There was almost a weird exhilaration to it also. I have to say though it never did try anything life threatening though.

Anyone remember the story a few years back where the kid jumped in a pool while zipped up in a sleeping bag? Never did try that sort of thing though.

Tim
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Mine has to have been the night (more years ago than I care to remember!!) that a friend of mind cuffed one of my hands to my bedhead for a laugh then went home, at the time I was still living with my parents and after much hunting of the surrounding area I could reach I realised he really hadnt left me a key!! I slept like that all night until he came and let himself in the next morning to release me. In the meantime I had to pretend to be sick and unable to get up so that my parents would go to work without discovering what was going on, he never did tell me whether he genuinally forgot to leave me a key, but knowing his warped sense of humour I think it was his idea of a great joke!! funnily enough 25 years later we are still mates....lol....
Monica 10 Jan 2006
#17
I know I've posted in various threads and read others who say they've been collecting since early teens or childhood years like I have been (off and on). Quite a few have become novice escape artist in that time like I too have. I'm sure I'm not the only one also, who while experimenting at home trying to thwart a pair of cuffs, has found themselves in a much harder predicament then intended.

When i was a teen I thought a couple times my parents were going to come home to find a stuck-in-handcuffs son. Never did happen though.

Anyone else have any experiences where you've dropped the key out of reach or anything like that? I remember being a teenager when something would go wrong a cold chilly sensation would run through me. Almost a sick sensation or even a brief moment of panic. I might even promise myself that if I got out I'd never try another stupid escape. Guess what though, I usually did. There was almost a weird exhilaration to it also. I have to say though it never did try anything life threatening though.

Anyone remember the story a few years back where the kid jumped in a pool while zipped up in a sleeping bag? Never did try that sort of thing though.

Tim
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And, how did you repay him? In the form of a predicament?
marie 10 Jan 2006
#18
I know I've posted in various threads and read others who say they've been collecting since early teens or childhood years like I have been (off and on). Quite a few have become novice escape artist in that time like I too have. I'm sure I'm not the only one also, who while experimenting at home trying to thwart a pair of cuffs, has found themselves in a much harder predicament then intended.

When i was a teen I thought a couple times my parents were going to come home to find a stuck-in-handcuffs son. Never did happen though.

Anyone else have any experiences where you've dropped the key out of reach or anything like that? I remember being a teenager when something would go wrong a cold chilly sensation would run through me. Almost a sick sensation or even a brief moment of panic. I might even promise myself that if I got out I'd never try another stupid escape. Guess what though, I usually did. There was almost a weird exhilaration to it also. I have to say though it never did try anything life threatening though.

Anyone remember the story a few years back where the kid jumped in a pool while zipped up in a sleeping bag? Never did try that sort of thing though.

Tim
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actually so far I havent, he got away with it! but I am open to suggestions.....and what better place to look than a group of escape artists and handcuff collectors.....lol.....
Monica 10 Jan 2006
#19
I know I've posted in various threads and read others who say they've been collecting since early teens or childhood years like I have been (off and on). Quite a few have become novice escape artist in that time like I too have. I'm sure I'm not the only one also, who while experimenting at home trying to thwart a pair of cuffs, has found themselves in a much harder predicament then intended.

When i was a teen I thought a couple times my parents were going to come home to find a stuck-in-handcuffs son. Never did happen though.

Anyone else have any experiences where you've dropped the key out of reach or anything like that? I remember being a teenager when something would go wrong a cold chilly sensation would run through me. Almost a sick sensation or even a brief moment of panic. I might even promise myself that if I got out I'd never try another stupid escape. Guess what though, I usually did. There was almost a weird exhilaration to it also. I have to say though it never did try anything life threatening though.

Anyone remember the story a few years back where the kid jumped in a pool while zipped up in a sleeping bag? Never did try that sort of thing though.

Tim
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I have a feeling you don't need any help. Make the man pay interest on all these years.