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Colt Military handcuffs ????

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JDB1979 11 Mar 2006
#1
I saw a set of what a guy is calling Colt Military Handcuffs, they don't look like the set of Colt handcuffs I have or either of the one's listed on this site. Mine and the ones on this site have the Colt Pony reared up at an angle. The cuffs this guy has shows the Colt Pony straight across - ? Is this a at Home Stamped, off Brand cuff Like a Few of the guys on this Forum have Joked about doing.... Ha Ha Ha, or is this for real, and is it military, if so How Rare? Thanks Jim
Mark Lyons 11 Mar 2006
#2
Hi.

It sounds like Horse poop to me.
The logo for the Colt Company is that Rampant Horse and even if the possibility could exist that the company had recently changed their logo, it couldn't be featured on a cuff because they quit manufacturing or licensing handcuffs for about 2 decades.
I would love to see a picture of that cuff.

mark
O--O
JDB1979 11 Mar 2006
#3
I saw a set of what a guy is calling Colt Military Handcuffs, they don't look like the set of Colt handcuffs I have or either of the one's listed on this site. Mine and the ones on this site have the Colt Pony reared up at an angle. The cuffs this guy has shows the Colt Pony straight across - ? Is this a at Home Stamped, off Brand cuff Like a Few of the guys on this Forum have Joked about doing.... Ha Ha Ha, or is this for real, and is it military, if so How Rare? Thanks Jim
Trying to add a picture but never done it before lets see if this works?
Unknown / guest 11 Mar 2006
#4
I saw a set of what a guy is calling Colt Military Handcuffs, they don't look like the set of Colt handcuffs I have or either of the one's listed on this site. Mine and the ones on this site have the Colt Pony reared up at an angle. The cuffs this guy has shows the Colt Pony straight across - ? Is this a at Home Stamped, off Brand cuff Like a Few of the guys on this Forum have Joked about doing.... Ha Ha Ha, or is this for real, and is it military, if so How Rare? Thanks Jim
Unknown / guest 11 Mar 2006
#5
I saw a set of what a guy is calling Colt Military Handcuffs, they don't look like the set of Colt handcuffs I have or either of the one's listed on this site. Mine and the ones on this site have the Colt Pony reared up at an angle. The cuffs this guy has shows the Colt Pony straight across - ? Is this a at Home Stamped, off Brand cuff Like a Few of the guys on this Forum have Joked about doing.... Ha Ha Ha, or is this for real, and is it military, if so How Rare? Thanks Jim
Ok see everything looks like it is a colt handcuff but the horse although Rampant Is not at an angle across the cuff like others I have seen. The SN# a 4 digit number is on the cuff it's self and not the swing throw arm like others I have seen. And the last item which Thru me off at first I was able to prove colt did make, was the round indenture on the cuff that securers the grove on the swing thru arm, most I've seen were square, but I was able to find a pair that Yossie had on his site that were round. I know colt only made cuffs for a few years but HOW MANY models or styles did they make? Thanks, Jim
Joseph Fox 12 Mar 2006
#6
I saw a set of what a guy is calling Colt Military Handcuffs, they don't look like the set of Colt handcuffs I have or either of the one's listed on this site. Mine and the ones on this site have the Colt Pony reared up at an angle. The cuffs this guy has shows the Colt Pony straight across - ? Is this a at Home Stamped, off Brand cuff Like a Few of the guys on this Forum have Joked about doing.... Ha Ha Ha, or is this for real, and is it military, if so How Rare? Thanks Jim
I have a Colt Flyer ("Announcing New Handcuffs By Colt's")...and pictured is the handcuff identical to the above:

*Serial # on the cuff's lock-case, not on the bow.

*Has a ROUND "dimple", not square-oblong (where the bow enters the cuff).

My guess is that it's the first-version of the "centered keyhole" model.?
BFW 12 Mar 2006
#7
I saw a set of what a guy is calling Colt Military Handcuffs, they don't look like the set of Colt handcuffs I have or either of the one's listed on this site. Mine and the ones on this site have the Colt Pony reared up at an angle. The cuffs this guy has shows the Colt Pony straight across - ? Is this a at Home Stamped, off Brand cuff Like a Few of the guys on this Forum have Joked about doing.... Ha Ha Ha, or is this for real, and is it military, if so How Rare? Thanks Jim
Jim:

I am no expert on handcuffs, but I do know a little bit about Colt firearms and the things folks do to fake them.

It seems to me you've got a winner. People get all hung up over the "rampart Colt logo" which has some distinctive characteristics that the fakers miss. The angle of the horse is of little consequence. Look at the two arrows shot at the horse. On a real Colt logo, he's caught one in his mouth, while another is flying behind him on the BACK side.

Where the fakers usually mess up is on the arrow flying behind the horse. In creating a fake stamp, they line up the shaft of the lower arrow with the slightly curved line delineating the horse's left front thigh muscle, such that it appears the arrow has gotten shot through the horse. On the genuine articles, the little line of the thigh muscle is slightly below the line of the arrow. On your stamp, the thigh muscle line is below the "missed arrow" which tells me it's a true logo.

The second area that the fakers mess up on is the stamping of the Colt name. If all you see is "Colt", "Colt Firearms" or something, it's a fake. Except for very early revolvers sold through the first New Haven factory and London offices, the one and only stamping ever used is:

COLT'S PT. F.A. MFG. CO. HARTFORD, CT. U.S.A.

Always in all capital letters (COLT not Colt) and Connecticut always abbreviated at CT and not as Conn. "Patent" it always "PT" and not "Pat." "Pat'd." or anything else. Period, the comma and asterisk were always the same, just as they are on your cuffs.

There was a little while where the rampart horse was incorporated with an entwining, elongated "C". This was done for a few years around 1900 to distinguish the newer Colt's made with a different, stronger steel that were manufactured to withstand the greater pressures generated by the new Nitro, or smokeless gunpowders, as opposed the the previous black powders. However, that was discontinued long before Colt ever even thought about making handcuffs.

Congratualtions. Whatever it is you've got, it seems to be a genuine Colt.
JDB1979 14 Mar 2006
#8
I saw a set of what a guy is calling Colt Military Handcuffs, they don't look like the set of Colt handcuffs I have or either of the one's listed on this site. Mine and the ones on this site have the Colt Pony reared up at an angle. The cuffs this guy has shows the Colt Pony straight across - ? Is this a at Home Stamped, off Brand cuff Like a Few of the guys on this Forum have Joked about doing.... Ha Ha Ha, or is this for real, and is it military, if so How Rare? Thanks Jim
These are for sell on ebay if anyone is interested. I don't know who the seller is, but given my lack of knowledge and rarity of different kinds of colt cuffs and condition, they have gone too rich for my blood.

But there is a guy who e-mailed me telling me he has a Pair that’s Brand New in the Box, never used. He says he bought them new in 1972, and never became a cop so they never got used. He says the instructions and paper is there too. What should I offer a guy for cuffs like this? What are Colts in the Box new worth? Thanks, James
Unknown / guest 15 Mar 2006
#9
I saw a set of what a guy is calling Colt Military Handcuffs, they don't look like the set of Colt handcuffs I have or either of the one's listed on this site. Mine and the ones on this site have the Colt Pony reared up at an angle. The cuffs this guy has shows the Colt Pony straight across - ? Is this a at Home Stamped, off Brand cuff Like a Few of the guys on this Forum have Joked about doing.... Ha Ha Ha, or is this for real, and is it military, if so How Rare? Thanks Jim
The cuffs pictured above are on ebay for the next 20 hrs here is the item # 7225299073
Unknown / guest 26 Mar 2006
#10
I saw a set of what a guy is calling Colt Military Handcuffs, they don't look like the set of Colt handcuffs I have or either of the one's listed on this site. Mine and the ones on this site have the Colt Pony reared up at an angle. The cuffs this guy has shows the Colt Pony straight across - ? Is this a at Home Stamped, off Brand cuff Like a Few of the guys on this Forum have Joked about doing.... Ha Ha Ha, or is this for real, and is it military, if so How Rare? Thanks Jim
Is This what yours looks like