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H&R Copy handcuffs question

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S.A. 28 Sep 2006
#1
Hello I would like to know if these handcuffs is a good or bad handcuffs for security or police use? Are it secure, are it solid like Smith & Wesson?

Anonymous 28 Sep 2006
#2
No, not good for police work, but I would be more concerned about doing biz with cuffsland. Beware.
patrick(handboeienfreak) 28 Sep 2006
#3
Hello I would like to know if these handcuffs is a good or bad handcuffs for security or police use? Are it secure, are it solid like Smith & Wesson?

hi anomy....

why beware of cuffsland

I've did many offers with them and never had a problem
I think you are the problem in this you are a chickken that you don't tell your name

patrick

ps I think cuffsland is one of the best to deal with
josef5 28 Sep 2006
#4
Hello I would like to know if these handcuffs is a good or bad handcuffs for security or police use? Are it secure, are it solid like Smith & Wesson?

Hi,

Yes, I fully agree. Cuffsland and itΒ΄s stuff is absolutely serious to deal with.
I believe them like to my parents, because I know that they are a proof of 100% quality. I never had any problem or even poor good.

Their good is of excellent quality and their attitude to customers is really exemplary.

Best wishes

Josef Hejl, CZ
Mark Lyons 28 Sep 2006
#5
Hello I would like to know if these handcuffs is a good or bad handcuffs for security or police use? Are it secure, are it solid like Smith & Wesson?

Patrick,
I agree.
Cuffsland is as reputable as they come. As far as I am concerned, they have provided me with excellent merchandise, assisted me with selecting proper postage, communicated with me flawlessly, and offered expert advice.
I don't even think that there is any room for improvement.
There is no reason to be cautious with Cuffsland. When you place an order there, your satisfaction is guaranteed!

mark
O--O
Atame.Muc 28 Sep 2006
#6
Hello I would like to know if these handcuffs is a good or bad handcuffs for security or police use? Are it secure, are it solid like Smith & Wesson?

Hello Anonymous,

if you should have had any problems with Cuffsland in the past, please contact us. Our customer's satisfaction is very important for us, but of course do we have to know WHAT went wrong and WHO was not happy with a deal to find a solution.

Best regards,
Guenter for www.Cuffsland.com

PS: many thanks to all the others for the kind words.
sellitall4moola 28 Sep 2006
#7
Hello I would like to know if these handcuffs is a good or bad handcuffs for security or police use? Are it secure, are it solid like Smith & Wesson?

In my Opinion as well; Cuffsland & Guenter are Among the Top in Handcuff Dealers as well as Ebay users in the World !! Plus they're damn great People too!!

Anonymous 28 Sep 2006
#8
Hello I would like to know if these handcuffs is a good or bad handcuffs for security or police use? Are it secure, are it solid like Smith & Wesson?

Beware the shills and know-it-alls as well.
Steve Santini 28 Sep 2006
#9
Hello I would like to know if these handcuffs is a good or bad handcuffs for security or police use? Are it secure, are it solid like Smith & Wesson?

Here's a hat's off to Guenter!

While I have never bought from his company, I have had numerous private and ebay dealings with him and he is great both as a person and as a buisnessman.

It is sad to see that this forum, like some others, is still infested with people who do not use real names and who have nothing better to do but post bitter and childish comments designed to inflame as oppossed to help and support.

Steve Santini www.thedarkmaster.com

Edgeplay_Cgo 29 Sep 2006
#10
Hello I would like to know if these handcuffs is a good or bad handcuffs for security or police use? Are it secure, are it solid like Smith & Wesson?

Is Steve a shill and a know it all, too? Well, he may be a know it all, but he's OUR know it all, so that's OK. <Grinning ducking and running verry fast> Mindless carping, while hiding behind anonymity, is easy but worthless.

Seriously, if only for a moment, The Chinese HK Super copies are a mixed bag compared to H&R's product. They made some modifications to the design. I think the key is marginally better, but I've never heard of a complaint with the H&R key.

The lock mechanism is different. The Chinese changed from a ratchet to a gear. I suspect H&Rs ratchet is stronger in theory. I'm confident it is in practice, as the Chinese cuffs aren't nearly as well made as the H&Rs.

The Chinese cuffs have sharp edges. They don't put them through a second machine operation to break the sharp edges after stamping. They're pretty harsh.

They're still a neat design.
Steve Santini 29 Sep 2006
#11
Hello I would like to know if these handcuffs is a good or bad handcuffs for security or police use? Are it secure, are it solid like Smith & Wesson?

Click to expand...
The lack of a ditched jaw on the Chinese copies.

All someone needs to do is pry the cuff apart at the hinge and the bow will disengage from the gear thus freeing the wrist.

At least one reason why later versions of the H&R Super were more secure.

This was not possible on the later models.

Steve
Ian McColl 29 Sep 2006
#12
Hello I would like to know if these handcuffs is a good or bad handcuffs for security or police use? Are it secure, are it solid like Smith & Wesson?

Never had a problem, they are a fine business.

Ian
Apache 29 Sep 2006
#13
Hello I would like to know if these handcuffs is a good or bad handcuffs for security or police use? Are it secure, are it solid like Smith & Wesson?

I also have to write that I have got very nice service from Cuffsland. Fast shipments and good packaging. No problems.

Jari
Finland
www.jaritapanainen.com
Atame.Muc 29 Sep 2006
#14
Hello I would like to know if these handcuffs is a good or bad handcuffs for security or police use? Are it secure, are it solid like Smith & Wesson?

Good morning (it's 10.40 am here)!

Once again many thanks to our friends and customers from all over the world for their nice words and support.

Meanwhile I am convinced that "Anonymous" is no customer of us. He is either an envious competitor or someone with a very weird sense of humour. It's a pity that he misuses this great forum for his sick games!

Lets come back to the topic. I think that those Chinese H&R copies have some advantages to make them at least back up cuffs for professional use. AFAIK the Chinese police really use this model. They are massively made and because of the hidden key-hole difficult to pick - the none standard key makes picking even harder. And they can be double locked by turning the key against opening direction. But as Dennis wrote, the edges are quite sharp - the Chinese police is not very anxious about the criminals' comfort .

Best regards,
Guenter (aka Atame) for http://www.cuffsland.com/

AJL 29 Sep 2006
#15
Hello I would like to know if these handcuffs is a good or bad handcuffs for security or police use? Are it secure, are it solid like Smith & Wesson?

Yes, let's keep on topic here, folks and not make this about the dodgy dealings of a forum member.

Cheers, mates.
josef5 29 Sep 2006
#16
Hello I would like to know if these handcuffs is a good or bad handcuffs for security or police use? Are it secure, are it solid like Smith & Wesson?

Hi,

Once more from me. Important to add that as good experience as with Cuffsland I have got with The Handcuffs Shop from UK too.

I was always satisfied with them too and their attitude to customers is also great.

So Guenter and Ian, many thanks for all:)

Cheers

Josef, CZ
Brian Gleason 07 Mar 2015
#17
No, not good for police work, but I would be more concerned about doing biz with cuffsland. Beware.
Petra and Gunther are Very good Honest people, like them a ton, they have Handcuffs!!!!!!!!!
Brian Gleason 07 Mar 2015
#18
Hello I would like to know if these handcuffs is a good or bad handcuffs for security or police use? Are it secure, are it solid like Smith & Wesson?

Petra and Gunther are awesome honest people, I agree there is no need for improvement, they are A+++++ without CUFFSLAND I would not have a lot of Antique handcuffs, I am glad Cuffsland carrys the handcuffs they do. They are awesome. CUFFSLAND ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bruce Thomson 08 Mar 2015
#19
Hello I would like to know if these handcuffs is a good or bad handcuffs for security or police use? Are it secure, are it solid like Smith & Wesson?

If it is for an actual police or Security department, I doubt they would let someone use these cuffs. I think that for North America at any rate, they are merely a novelty or collector cuff. I have a pair of these and the action is somewhat rough.
Rasberius 09 Mar 2015
#20
Hello I would like to know if these handcuffs is a good or bad handcuffs for security or police use? Are it secure, are it solid like Smith & Wesson?

It seems that this is the official Chinese police handcuffs