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Wonderful restraint collections. Are there collectors who sell? Perhaps collectors who have more than one example of a particular handcuff and leg iron who would like to sell. I am looking for a nicely made, functional set of hand and leg irons that have no sharp edges, can be affixed fairly tightly and are not painful to wear for extended periods. It is my experience that the "modern" irons have sharp edges, usually, and do not lend themselves to my use. I would appreciate any direction...

First off I'm new to this board and there are alot more people on here vastly more knowledable than me so if they correct my info then listen to them. First off, I'm sure your checking ebay so I'll save that comment. Second, I saw a pair of custom made cuffs called KUB I believe was the brand name. Can't remember where I saw them but they appeared to be very polished and rounded and a very vintage style. If I remember correctly, the handcuffs even were listed as a womens size and a mens size. Sure you could find it on any search engine.

I'm sure other people here can suggest something else. Of the modern cuffs I must say that when I got a pair of the American cuffs, I was surpised so see they were smoother than other brands of similiar design.

Hope this helps,

Tim

Wonderful restraint collections. Are there collectors who sell? Perhaps collectors who have more than one example of a particular handcuff and leg iron who would like to sell. I am looking for a nicely made, functional set of hand and leg irons that have no sharp edges, can be affixed fairly tightly and are not painful to wear for extended periods. It is my experience that the "modern" irons have sharp edges, usually, and do not lend themselves to my use. I would appreciate any direction...

Hi. You raised an interesting question. I wonder what might be the most comfortable cuff. I know that I hate being in Bean Giants for too long. It has my vote as being the least comfortable. It is not the sharp edges that is the most dreaded part....it is the lack of movement in the wrist and elbows that is uncomfortable. Lilly Irons are also very restricted, but there is some distance between the wrists.
The most comfortable that I can think of would be one of the bottleneck cuffs as the body and bow are rounded. There is a chain between the cuffs which offer some movement. The last model Marlins have a swivel in between the cuffs and probably offer the most flexability.
I never tried on one of those fuzzy or furry cuffs that are on ebay all the time, but they do have a chain between the cuffs and I believe there is a fair amount of separation between the 2 halfs. These are probably the best for playtime, but since this is a collectors site, I think that the Marlins might pick up the most votes here.
What do you other collectors think is the most comfortable cuffs? How about McKenzies?

Wonderful restraint collections. Are there collectors who sell? Perhaps collectors who have more than one example of a particular handcuff and leg iron who would like to sell. I am looking for a nicely made, functional set of hand and leg irons that have no sharp edges, can be affixed fairly tightly and are not painful to wear for extended periods. It is my experience that the "modern" irons have sharp edges, usually, and do not lend themselves to my use. I would appreciate any direction...

Dear JS,

The Darby style restraints almost surely are the most comfortable. At least three companies still make them, Hiatt-Thompson (Britain and America), Chicago (America) and KUB (Pakistan).

I have handled only Hiatts, yet have heard tell the quality of KUB and Chicago is good.

If you go to the Web site of Discount Handcuff Warehouse, http://www.handcuffwarehouse.com/, assuming you are in the US, you can see the Hiatts and the Chicago models. You also will find it difficult to best their prices.

They have a toll-free telephone number. If you call them and tell them what you want, they happily will give you their best suggestions. As they offer a no-strings-attached return policy, they have no reason or motive to mislead you.

I trust this information proves helpful to you.

Cheers,

Jack

Wonderful restraint collections. Are there collectors who sell? Perhaps collectors who have more than one example of a particular handcuff and leg iron who would like to sell. I am looking for a nicely made, functional set of hand and leg irons that have no sharp edges, can be affixed fairly tightly and are not painful to wear for extended periods. It is my experience that the "modern" irons have sharp edges, usually, and do not lend themselves to my use. I would appreciate any direction...

Though I collect I do not have a collection as big as most of these guys. Being an Escape Artist I've always apppreciated Bottle Necks for comfort but lately have been more free, movement wise, with the Chubb Escort.

I think this is a hard question as I have small hands and wrists where someone like Mark above (bigger hands and wrist) might not be AS comfortable as I in something.

Shawn

Wonderful restraint collections. Are there collectors who sell? Perhaps collectors who have more than one example of a particular handcuff and leg iron who would like to sell. I am looking for a nicely made, functional set of hand and leg irons that have no sharp edges, can be affixed fairly tightly and are not painful to wear for extended periods. It is my experience that the "modern" irons have sharp edges, usually, and do not lend themselves to my use. I would appreciate any direction...

Dear fellow collectors,

as far as I know Chicago Darbies are KUB Darbies, as KUB from Pakistan is the provider for many retailers throughout the world (e.g. www.Cuffsland.com in Germany or www.cannonsgreatescapes.com in USA. KUB stamp the retailers' names ("Cuffsland", "C.G.E." etc.) on the keys.

Regards,
Atame (www.atame.info)

PS: I myself consider Bean Cobbs (or Tower's Bean Pattern) as one of the most comfortable handcuffs - presumed that you have quite small wrists.

PPS: besides Hiatt Darby Replicas and KUB, Clejuso No.8 (from Germany - see picture below) are quite comfortable leg irons. These 1,000 grams heavy non swing through restraints are somewhat brought and well rounded.

Wonderful restraint collections. Are there collectors who sell? Perhaps collectors who have more than one example of a particular handcuff and leg iron who would like to sell. I am looking for a nicely made, functional set of hand and leg irons that have no sharp edges, can be affixed fairly tightly and are not painful to wear for extended periods. It is my experience that the "modern" irons have sharp edges, usually, and do not lend themselves to my use. I would appreciate any direction...

I have to agree, for price and comfort, the Darby pattern cuffs are the way to go. What you are looking for is a combination of weight(not too heavy), rounded edges, and a certain width to distribute pressure. Beware of the cheap imitations coming from the India and Pakitstan that are rusty looking that are common on eBay. The aforemention KUB, Chicago ones are well made. Another option is there are some individuals and one company that make the old style slave type irons that are either held together with a padlock or screw. One outfit is Mr. S in San Francisco, CA that makes a variety of these restraints from strap steel going from 1" wide to I think 2" wide in various configurations.