2 unknown Darbies

Hello fellow collectors,

recently I achieved two different Darbies, which are both unknown to me. I hope that you can help me identifying them.




The first one is a Darby with only one locking position from England. So it is a challenge for everybody who ever wrote a book about British Handcuffs . Comparing it to other English Darbies I think, that it's soonest similar to a Thomson. Unfortunately all markings are very worn off. On one side you can read "..ANT.." . I guess this is what is left from "WARRANTED". On the other side there is something that looks like "L". Later letters could be "..ON..". The letter "L" is also stamped into each lock-tube beneath the slot, where the bow is inserted. No other of my Darbies (Hiatt, R.C.S., Dowler, Parker or Frogatt) has a marking there.




The second Darby is an adjustable restraint, which I purchased in France. The thin swivel also resembles French swing through handcuffs from the 1940s and 1950s. Both bows are each marked "A8801" on the one and "K1171" on the other side.

Regards,
Atame
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...that one bow and the key of the British Darby is also stamped with the number "5".

Hello fellow collectors,

recently I achieved two different Darbies, which are both unknown to me. I hope that you can help me identifying them.




The first one is a Darby with only one locking position from England. So it is a challenge for everybody who ever wrote a book about British Handcuffs . Comparing it to other English Darbies I think, that it's soonest similar to a Thomson. Unfortunately all markings are very worn off. On one side you can read "..ANT.." . I guess this is what is left from "WARRANTED". On the other side there is something that looks like "L". Later letters could be "..ON..". The letter "L" is also stamped into each lock-tube beneath the slot, where the bow is inserted. No other of my Darbies (Hiatt, R.C.S., Dowler, Parker or Frogatt) has a marking there.




The second Darby is an adjustable restraint, which I purchased in France. The thin swivel also resembles French swing through handcuffs from the 1940s and 1950s. Both bows are each marked "A8801" on the one and "K1171" on the other side.

Regards,
Atame
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Hi Atame

I don't recognize cuff number 1. The "L" making on the barrel is very unusual. I don't think I have seen such a mark before.

The last marking sort of looks like it may end in the work "SON" A number of companies were names Someone & Son.

I have a example of cuff number 2 myself. I thought it was German. It has similar markings.

Joe

Hello fellow collectors,

recently I achieved two different Darbies, which are both unknown to me. I hope that you can help me identifying them.




The first one is a Darby with only one locking position from England. So it is a challenge for everybody who ever wrote a book about British Handcuffs . Comparing it to other English Darbies I think, that it's soonest similar to a Thomson. Unfortunately all markings are very worn off. On one side you can read "..ANT.." . I guess this is what is left from "WARRANTED". On the other side there is something that looks like "L". Later letters could be "..ON..". The letter "L" is also stamped into each lock-tube beneath the slot, where the bow is inserted. No other of my Darbies (Hiatt, R.C.S., Dowler, Parker or Frogatt) has a marking there.




The second Darby is an adjustable restraint, which I purchased in France. The thin swivel also resembles French swing through handcuffs from the 1940s and 1950s. Both bows are each marked "A8801" on the one and "K1171" on the other side.

Regards,
Atame
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Hi Joe,

thank you for the response.

"SON" is a good guess. I myself thought that this "ON" could also be the end of "LONDON". But after you mentioned the "SON" I now have another idea and I am wondering, why I did not notice it before, especially after I mentioned the shape of the Darby. Left to the middle of the "SON" picture there is something, which looks like the rest of an "M". Presuming that there could be one more letter between this "M" and "SON" the missing letter could be a "P" and then we have "..MPSON" what pretty looks like "THOMPSON" (which I spelled slightly wrong in my first posting). The "L" consequently could be not a part of the manufacturer name, but maybe the initial of a Thompson worker, or it stands for the size of the cuffs. As we all know, Hiatt Darbies are also marked with different letters. Could everbody, who own a Thompson darby, please check, if there is a letter on the inside of the barrel and if it is marked "WARRANTED".

Why do you thought that the second Darby might be a German one? I do not insist that it is of French origin, but the French seller told me that he got the Darby from a French policeman. Moreover I've never seen such a model offered in Germany. And all old Clejuso and Kayser Darbies I know have quite massive swivels like their English counterparts.

Regards,
Atame

Hello fellow collectors,

recently I achieved two different Darbies, which are both unknown to me. I hope that you can help me identifying them.




The first one is a Darby with only one locking position from England. So it is a challenge for everybody who ever wrote a book about British Handcuffs . Comparing it to other English Darbies I think, that it's soonest similar to a Thomson. Unfortunately all markings are very worn off. On one side you can read "..ANT.." . I guess this is what is left from "WARRANTED". On the other side there is something that looks like "L". Later letters could be "..ON..". The letter "L" is also stamped into each lock-tube beneath the slot, where the bow is inserted. No other of my Darbies (Hiatt, R.C.S., Dowler, Parker or Frogatt) has a marking there.




The second Darby is an adjustable restraint, which I purchased in France. The thin swivel also resembles French swing through handcuffs from the 1940s and 1950s. Both bows are each marked "A8801" on the one and "K1171" on the other side.

Regards,
Atame
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The first pair is a set of Thompson's based on the shape and design is different from alot of others. I know there has been alot of debate weather Thompson was made here in the US or in England. Personally, I have compaired Thompson with other darbies and found the Thompson's to be of better craftmanship then the others out there.

Hello fellow collectors,

recently I achieved two different Darbies, which are both unknown to me. I hope that you can help me identifying them.




The first one is a Darby with only one locking position from England. So it is a challenge for everybody who ever wrote a book about British Handcuffs . Comparing it to other English Darbies I think, that it's soonest similar to a Thomson. Unfortunately all markings are very worn off. On one side you can read "..ANT.." . I guess this is what is left from "WARRANTED". On the other side there is something that looks like "L". Later letters could be "..ON..". The letter "L" is also stamped into each lock-tube beneath the slot, where the bow is inserted. No other of my Darbies (Hiatt, R.C.S., Dowler, Parker or Frogatt) has a marking there.




The second Darby is an adjustable restraint, which I purchased in France. The thin swivel also resembles French swing through handcuffs from the 1940s and 1950s. Both bows are each marked "A8801" on the one and "K1171" on the other side.

Regards,
Atame
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Atame

Actually I don't have any real reason to say it is German. I have just never seen a French Darby. I would be quite pleased if it were French, because that would be something a bit different.

Maybe someone else will be able to identify it.

Joe

Hello fellow collectors,

recently I achieved two different Darbies, which are both unknown to me. I hope that you can help me identifying them.




The first one is a Darby with only one locking position from England. So it is a challenge for everybody who ever wrote a book about British Handcuffs . Comparing it to other English Darbies I think, that it's soonest similar to a Thomson. Unfortunately all markings are very worn off. On one side you can read "..ANT.." . I guess this is what is left from "WARRANTED". On the other side there is something that looks like "L". Later letters could be "..ON..". The letter "L" is also stamped into each lock-tube beneath the slot, where the bow is inserted. No other of my Darbies (Hiatt, R.C.S., Dowler, Parker or Frogatt) has a marking there.




The second Darby is an adjustable restraint, which I purchased in France. The thin swivel also resembles French swing through handcuffs from the 1940s and 1950s. Both bows are each marked "A8801" on the one and "K1171" on the other side.

Regards,
Atame
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I have a Thompson like the one pictured except it locks at one size only and is marked Thompson and 18 on one cuff and "hard" on the other. It has nearly identical circular v markings on the end of the tube. I do not have a key. They allegedly came out of Colorado Springs , Colorado.