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Adams leg irons?

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Franklin 03 Feb 2008
#1
Were there leg irons manufactured using the 1862 Adams patent style shackle (precursor to Tower)? If so, could someone perhaps post a picture of the same? I'm working on a little project regarding antique leg irons and want to make mention of the Adams design.

Thanks,

Franklin



Stan Willis 04 Feb 2008
#2
Adams Leg iron was made, but they are very rare. I know of 3 in collections. I don't have one, but will see if I have a picture.
Stan
Stan Willis 04 Feb 2008
#3
Were there leg irons manufactured using the 1862 Adams patent style shackle (precursor to Tower)? If so, could someone perhaps post a picture of the same? I'm working on a little project regarding antique leg irons and want to make mention of the Adams design.

Thanks,

Franklin


Pic of Adams LI with Adams handcuff showing above the LI.
Stan

Franklin 04 Feb 2008
#4
Were there leg irons manufactured using the 1862 Adams patent style shackle (precursor to Tower)? If so, could someone perhaps post a picture of the same? I'm working on a little project regarding antique leg irons and want to make mention of the Adams design.

Thanks,

Franklin


Stan:

Thanks very much.

I find the color truly interesting and much more in line with the manufacturing practises of the period.

May I ask where you came across that photo of an Adams leg iron?

Franklin
Atame.Muc 04 Feb 2008
#5
Were there leg irons manufactured using the 1862 Adams patent style shackle (precursor to Tower)? If so, could someone perhaps post a picture of the same? I'm working on a little project regarding antique leg irons and want to make mention of the Adams design.

Thanks,

Franklin


Hi Franklin,

I am very sure that Stan took his camera pointed it to one of his iron-decorated walls and simply pushed the button .

Best regards,
Guenter
Stan Willis 04 Feb 2008
#6
Were there leg irons manufactured using the 1862 Adams patent style shackle (precursor to Tower)? If so, could someone perhaps post a picture of the same? I'm working on a little project regarding antique leg irons and want to make mention of the Adams design.

Thanks,

Franklin


You can ask.
I was visiting a US collector who owns them. I don't have his approval to say who they belong to. I wish they were on my walls.
Stan
atlanta*casting 04 Feb 2008
#7
Were there leg irons manufactured using the 1862 Adams patent style shackle (precursor to Tower)? If so, could someone perhaps post a picture of the same? I'm working on a little project regarding antique leg irons and want to make mention of the Adams design.

Thanks,

Franklin


slip him a few Euros and maybe he will get the permission
from and post the name of the owner..
atlanta*casting 04 Feb 2008
#8
Were there leg irons manufactured using the 1862 Adams patent style shackle (precursor to Tower)? If so, could someone perhaps post a picture of the same? I'm working on a little project regarding antique leg irons and want to make mention of the Adams design.

Thanks,

Franklin


Stan, My Tower bottom key leg irons have the same dark look as the Adams leg irons in photo.

Was this from the method of manufacture?
Stan Willis 04 Feb 2008
#9
Were there leg irons manufactured using the 1862 Adams patent style shackle (precursor to Tower)? If so, could someone perhaps post a picture of the same? I'm working on a little project regarding antique leg irons and want to make mention of the Adams design.

Thanks,

Franklin


I'm not sure what difference it makes who owns the Leg iron. The picture speaks for itself. The dark finish is not uncommon for Tower bottom key, Phelps, Adams, other cuffs from that time period. Those cuffs and leg irons are also found unplated and plated. I don't know what the black finish is, but it appears to be a coating like paint. Maybe Ian or some other expert can tell us about the finish.
Stan
Franklin 04 Feb 2008
#10
Were there leg irons manufactured using the 1862 Adams patent style shackle (precursor to Tower)? If so, could someone perhaps post a picture of the same? I'm working on a little project regarding antique leg irons and want to make mention of the Adams design.

Thanks,

Franklin


Hi AC:

Because of the date of manufacture, your bottom key Towers are almost certainly made of wrought iron, as are the pictured Adams. The first foundry in the US that produced modern steel using the Bessemer process was built in 1866, but it took over a decade for it to become firmly established in the marketplace.

The typical patina color for wrought iron is black, which is not iron oxide (rust) but an oxidation of the silicates, phosphorus and other trace impurities contained in wrought iron, but not present in modern iron smelted in a blast furnace or open hearth which burns away all impurities to produce virtually pure iron.

That black patina provides a natural rust protection to wrought iron similar to the bluing you see on firearms. Regretably, the whole subject of wrought iron versus modern steel is vastly misunderstood today and trying to correctly explain it is far beyond a simple post here. The project I mentioned in my first post is a website I'm putting together that discusses wrought iron and blacksmithing techniques and uses that as a means for identifying and authenticating antique fetters and manacles dating from Roman times through the 19th century when factory mass production of restraints began. I'm in the process of working on the photos and illustrations and hope to have the thing finished within the next year or so.

Franklin


atlanta*casting 04 Feb 2008
#11
Were there leg irons manufactured using the 1862 Adams patent style shackle (precursor to Tower)? If so, could someone perhaps post a picture of the same? I'm working on a little project regarding antique leg irons and want to make mention of the Adams design.

Thanks,

Franklin


Thank you Stan.


Thank you Franklin for the Blacksmithing lesson.

Very interesting information.