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LK 11 Feb 2008

hi FRANKLIN,i have 4 sets of ventage peerless 1912-1915& pat's pending,sorry i don't have pic's but i don't know how to do photobucket yet.please bear with me as i am still a novice collector, i have compared what i have with the main gallery here and think the models and verison's are:

#1 peerless model 1 by smith & wesson version 1
single link nickle plate
on front:
PAT.FEB.20,1912 on both swingthru arm's,19 notchs grooved on both sides
3 latch lock
dl thru keyhole
no serial #'s
THE PEERLESS HANDCUFF CO.
SPRINGFIELD,MASS. on both double arms
on back:
MFGD.BY SMITH & WESSON on both double arms
all markings in low cut small font size

#2 peerless model 1 version 2
chain link nickel plated
on front:
THE PEERLESS HANDCUFF CO.
SPRINGFIELD,MASS. on both double arms
19 notchs grooved on both sides
3 latch lock
dl thru keyhole
serial # 1308 on both
on back:
PAT.FEB.20,1912
NOV.23,1915 on both double arms
REGISTERED TRADE MARK with peerless propeller on one side
all markings in deep cut normal font size

#3 peerless model 1 version 2 ?with a twist only one serial #
chain link blue
on front:
THE PEERLESS HANDCUFF CO.
SPRINGFIELD,MASS. on both double arms
19 notchs grooved on both sides
3 latch lock
dl pin type
serial # 41344 on one side only
0n back:
PAT.FEB.20,1912
OCT.19,1915 & nov.23,1915
PAT. PENDING on both double arms
REGISTERED TRADE MARK with peerless propeller on one side
all markings in medium cut normal font size

#4 peerless model 1 version 2
chain link nickel plate
(same as above 3blue only serial 24427 is on both cuffs & markings are deep cut normal font size.
i have some other newer peerless but the above are my oldest.can you tell me anything more about them?

joe tanner 11 Feb 2008

LK :: sorry, but you are wrong right off the bat.... model ONE's do NOT have GROOVES on the bows.... sorry.... joe

LK 12 Feb 2008

hi FRANKLIN,i have 4 sets of ventage peerless 1912-1915& pat's pending,sorry i don't have pic's but i don't know how to do photobucket yet.please bear with me as i am still a novice collector, i have compared what i have with the main gallery here and think the models and verison's are:

#1 peerless model 1 by smith & wesson version 1
single link nickle plate
on front:
PAT.FEB.20,1912 on both swingthru arm's,19 notchs grooved on both sides
3 latch lock
dl thru keyhole
no serial #'s
THE PEERLESS HANDCUFF CO.
SPRINGFIELD,MASS. on both double arms
on back:
MFGD.BY SMITH & WESSON on both double arms
all markings in low cut small font size

#2 peerless model 1 version 2
chain link nickel plated
on front:
THE PEERLESS HANDCUFF CO.
SPRINGFIELD,MASS. on both double arms
19 notchs grooved on both sides
3 latch lock
dl thru keyhole
serial # 1308 on both
on back:
PAT.FEB.20,1912
NOV.23,1915 on both double arms
REGISTERED TRADE MARK with peerless propeller on one side
all markings in deep cut normal font size

#3 peerless model 1 version 2 ?with a twist only one serial #
chain link blue
on front:
THE PEERLESS HANDCUFF CO.
SPRINGFIELD,MASS. on both double arms
19 notchs grooved on both sides
3 latch lock
dl pin type
serial # 41344 on one side only
0n back:
PAT.FEB.20,1912
OCT.19,1915 & nov.23,1915
PAT. PENDING on both double arms
REGISTERED TRADE MARK with peerless propeller on one side
all markings in medium cut normal font size

#4 peerless model 1 version 2
chain link nickel plate
(same as above 3blue only serial 24427 is on both cuffs & markings are deep cut normal font size.
i have some other newer peerless but the above are my oldest.can you tell me anything more about them?
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can u tell me what model and version i have then #1 thru #4, and way is the OCT.19.1915 ommitted on the #2's

LK 12 Feb 2008

hi FRANKLIN,i have 4 sets of ventage peerless 1912-1915& pat's pending,sorry i don't have pic's but i don't know how to do photobucket yet.please bear with me as i am still a novice collector, i have compared what i have with the main gallery here and think the models and verison's are:

#1 peerless model 1 by smith & wesson version 1
single link nickle plate
on front:
PAT.FEB.20,1912 on both swingthru arm's,19 notchs grooved on both sides
3 latch lock
dl thru keyhole
no serial #'s
THE PEERLESS HANDCUFF CO.
SPRINGFIELD,MASS. on both double arms
on back:
MFGD.BY SMITH & WESSON on both double arms
all markings in low cut small font size

#2 peerless model 1 version 2
chain link nickel plated
on front:
THE PEERLESS HANDCUFF CO.
SPRINGFIELD,MASS. on both double arms
19 notchs grooved on both sides
3 latch lock
dl thru keyhole
serial # 1308 on both
on back:
PAT.FEB.20,1912
NOV.23,1915 on both double arms
REGISTERED TRADE MARK with peerless propeller on one side
all markings in deep cut normal font size

#3 peerless model 1 version 2 ?with a twist only one serial #
chain link blue
on front:
THE PEERLESS HANDCUFF CO.
SPRINGFIELD,MASS. on both double arms
19 notchs grooved on both sides
3 latch lock
dl pin type
serial # 41344 on one side only
0n back:
PAT.FEB.20,1912
OCT.19,1915 & nov.23,1915
PAT. PENDING on both double arms
REGISTERED TRADE MARK with peerless propeller on one side
all markings in medium cut normal font size

#4 peerless model 1 version 2
chain link nickel plate
(same as above 3blue only serial 24427 is on both cuffs & markings are deep cut normal font size.
i have some other newer peerless but the above are my oldest.can you tell me anything more about them?
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note all 4 above DO NOT have rounded off lock case!

LK 15 Feb 2008

hi FRANKLIN,i have 4 sets of ventage peerless 1912-1915& pat's pending,sorry i don't have pic's but i don't know how to do photobucket yet.please bear with me as i am still a novice collector, i have compared what i have with the main gallery here and think the models and verison's are:

#1 peerless model 1 by smith & wesson version 1
single link nickle plate
on front:
PAT.FEB.20,1912 on both swingthru arm's,19 notchs grooved on both sides
3 latch lock
dl thru keyhole
no serial #'s
THE PEERLESS HANDCUFF CO.
SPRINGFIELD,MASS. on both double arms
on back:
MFGD.BY SMITH & WESSON on both double arms
all markings in low cut small font size

#2 peerless model 1 version 2
chain link nickel plated
on front:
THE PEERLESS HANDCUFF CO.
SPRINGFIELD,MASS. on both double arms
19 notchs grooved on both sides
3 latch lock
dl thru keyhole
serial # 1308 on both
on back:
PAT.FEB.20,1912
NOV.23,1915 on both double arms
REGISTERED TRADE MARK with peerless propeller on one side
all markings in deep cut normal font size

#3 peerless model 1 version 2 ?with a twist only one serial #
chain link blue
on front:
THE PEERLESS HANDCUFF CO.
SPRINGFIELD,MASS. on both double arms
19 notchs grooved on both sides
3 latch lock
dl pin type
serial # 41344 on one side only
0n back:
PAT.FEB.20,1912
OCT.19,1915 & nov.23,1915
PAT. PENDING on both double arms
REGISTERED TRADE MARK with peerless propeller on one side
all markings in medium cut normal font size

#4 peerless model 1 version 2
chain link nickel plate
(same as above 3blue only serial 24427 is on both cuffs & markings are deep cut normal font size.
i have some other newer peerless but the above are my oldest.can you tell me anything more about them?
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hi franklin recieved you list and sent you email,i just yesterday and the day before sent in to peerless the info on my two newest set's thru there (restraint history) program and on your page one patent no. 2759349 the assigned to JOSEPH A. LORCH , CHRIS GILL showed that this guy was the reciever of my two set's in 1935 & 1938 & that he worked for the F.B.I. in wasington, d.c. CHRIS even sent me a copy of the ledger showing that page for 1935, although it is not a very complete record keeping book,anyway he could have still been the ordering clark for the F.B.I. in august 21, 1956 but wonder and don't think he was assigned the patent, do to what CHRIS showed me, just thought i'd pass that on.

LK 15 Feb 2008

hi FRANKLIN,i have 4 sets of ventage peerless 1912-1915& pat's pending,sorry i don't have pic's but i don't know how to do photobucket yet.please bear with me as i am still a novice collector, i have compared what i have with the main gallery here and think the models and verison's are:

#1 peerless model 1 by smith & wesson version 1
single link nickle plate
on front:
PAT.FEB.20,1912 on both swingthru arm's,19 notchs grooved on both sides
3 latch lock
dl thru keyhole
no serial #'s
THE PEERLESS HANDCUFF CO.
SPRINGFIELD,MASS. on both double arms
on back:
MFGD.BY SMITH & WESSON on both double arms
all markings in low cut small font size

#2 peerless model 1 version 2
chain link nickel plated
on front:
THE PEERLESS HANDCUFF CO.
SPRINGFIELD,MASS. on both double arms
19 notchs grooved on both sides
3 latch lock
dl thru keyhole
serial # 1308 on both
on back:
PAT.FEB.20,1912
NOV.23,1915 on both double arms
REGISTERED TRADE MARK with peerless propeller on one side
all markings in deep cut normal font size

#3 peerless model 1 version 2 ?with a twist only one serial #
chain link blue
on front:
THE PEERLESS HANDCUFF CO.
SPRINGFIELD,MASS. on both double arms
19 notchs grooved on both sides
3 latch lock
dl pin type
serial # 41344 on one side only
0n back:
PAT.FEB.20,1912
OCT.19,1915 & nov.23,1915
PAT. PENDING on both double arms
REGISTERED TRADE MARK with peerless propeller on one side
all markings in medium cut normal font size

#4 peerless model 1 version 2
chain link nickel plate
(same as above 3blue only serial 24427 is on both cuffs & markings are deep cut normal font size.
i have some other newer peerless but the above are my oldest.can you tell me anything more about them?
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hi franklin, i have IDENTIFIED 5 set's, but am having trouble with the sixth, i believe it is model 3 or peerless model 300,version 1 although LR: is the same as RR: with the patent numbers and MADE IN U.S.A. PATENT is also their above the three set's of numbers devided by dash's is this a model 3 ,version 1 or an other,or was it a missprint? i am not tring to be a credict i think what you have done is great and again i thank you.