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I would like your opinion on "Police marked" cuffs

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Stan Willis 14 Feb 2008
#1
I have a chance to get some old style Peerless cuffs and others made in the 30's and 40's. They are marked with "CPD" (Cincinnati Police ) or D7 for district 7 or patrol 4 for patrol wagon 4 , etc. How many collectors would pay a premium because of the markings, and who would'nt pay extra and who would pay less because they are marked ? I have a few marked cuffs in the collection, but generally I don't care if they have PD markings or not.
Thanks.
Stan
Bruce Thomson 14 Feb 2008
#2
I don't mind it if a handcuff has extra stampings as long as they are not applied in a sloppy manner.
I have one pair of H&R Supers with Winnipeg related stampings, which I like, but I don't remember paying extra for them.
I regret passing up a bunch marked for an Saskatchewan police department as they might have made good 'trades' for police collectors.
Mikeintightpants 14 Feb 2008
#3
I have a chance to get some old style Peerless cuffs and others made in the 30's and 40's. They are marked with "CPD" (Cincinnati Police ) or D7 for district 7 or patrol 4 for patrol wagon 4 , etc. How many collectors would pay a premium because of the markings, and who would'nt pay extra and who would pay less because they are marked ? I have a few marked cuffs in the collection, but generally I don't care if they have PD markings or not.
Thanks.
Stan
The problem is knowing whether the markings are authentic or not. It's good to have cuffs with a good provenance and genuine markings can add considerable interest - but as we all know, it's only too easy for the markings to be added "unofficially".

MikeR
a.k.a. Mikeintightpants
Birmingham, England
germanhandcuffs 14 Feb 2008
#4
I have a chance to get some old style Peerless cuffs and others made in the 30's and 40's. They are marked with "CPD" (Cincinnati Police ) or D7 for district 7 or patrol 4 for patrol wagon 4 , etc. How many collectors would pay a premium because of the markings, and who would'nt pay extra and who would pay less because they are marked ? I have a few marked cuffs in the collection, but generally I don't care if they have PD markings or not.
Thanks.
Stan
Recently I purchased a pair of Hagge/Schutzmarke Deutsche Polizei handcuffs from a German policeman.The cuffs do have the marking of the provincial police of Baden-Würtemberg and also some servicenumbers. If I have the choice between buying a plain pair and a marked pair I always choose the one with markings, without any doubt. Others probably wouldn't, I guess. So far I didn't have to pay more for a marked pair.

Regards,

germanhandcuffs


The Amazing Michael 14 Feb 2008
#5
I have a chance to get some old style Peerless cuffs and others made in the 30's and 40's. They are marked with "CPD" (Cincinnati Police ) or D7 for district 7 or patrol 4 for patrol wagon 4 , etc. How many collectors would pay a premium because of the markings, and who would'nt pay extra and who would pay less because they are marked ? I have a few marked cuffs in the collection, but generally I don't care if they have PD markings or not.
Thanks.
Stan
For me, it depends on what is marked on it and how well it is marked. For most pieces, I would not pay extra for markings.....the exceptions would be places of interest or belonging to a person of interest.....but we all know that (legitimate) cuffs like that are few and far between.

Cheers, Mike

P.S. Stan, I use to live in Norwood, Ohio (not far from you at all) and a pair of cuffs marked "CPD" would probably interest me a little more than most. =)
lauher 14 Feb 2008
#6
I have a chance to get some old style Peerless cuffs and others made in the 30's and 40's. They are marked with "CPD" (Cincinnati Police ) or D7 for district 7 or patrol 4 for patrol wagon 4 , etc. How many collectors would pay a premium because of the markings, and who would'nt pay extra and who would pay less because they are marked ? I have a few marked cuffs in the collection, but generally I don't care if they have PD markings or not.
Thanks.
Stan
stan

Good question.

I like marked cuffs if the markings are clear and nicely done. This is particularly true for a common cuff.

You know I like Darbies and I am very interested in old Darbies with markings that identify the original user. Some of the old ones had names in a very elaborate script. These are very nice.

On the other hand a poor set of marking could detract a lot from a cuff. Poor marking would be ones that were done by hand in a crude way or just random marks that would mean nothing to the average person. "CPD" would be of more interest than "D7" simply because it has a bit more meaning.

Joe
beccsters 15 Feb 2008
#7
I have a chance to get some old style Peerless cuffs and others made in the 30's and 40's. They are marked with "CPD" (Cincinnati Police ) or D7 for district 7 or patrol 4 for patrol wagon 4 , etc. How many collectors would pay a premium because of the markings, and who would'nt pay extra and who would pay less because they are marked ? I have a few marked cuffs in the collection, but generally I don't care if they have PD markings or not.
Thanks.
Stan
Stan,
If you wouldn't mind, I would be interested to see the "CPD" markings on your old peerless. I too have peerless with the "CPD" stamped (4 pat# model 2). If I recall from a recent post, we have some of the same old peerless cuffs.

Thanks,
Becky

Oh yeah, the opinion, I am not knowledgeable enough in this area to even have an opinion. I'm still trying to retain all of the great things that I am learning from you guys.

Stan Willis 15 Feb 2008
#8
I have a chance to get some old style Peerless cuffs and others made in the 30's and 40's. They are marked with "CPD" (Cincinnati Police ) or D7 for district 7 or patrol 4 for patrol wagon 4 , etc. How many collectors would pay a premium because of the markings, and who would'nt pay extra and who would pay less because they are marked ? I have a few marked cuffs in the collection, but generally I don't care if they have PD markings or not.
Thanks.
Stan
I was not able to get the CPD marked cuffs. The person who has them wanted to trade for some badges, and he thinks his cuffs are worth a lot more than I think they are worth. The result is I still have my badges and he still has the cuffs. All were marked with different font styles. CPD could also be Cleveland, Chicago, etc...
Stan
beccsters 15 Feb 2008
#9
I have a chance to get some old style Peerless cuffs and others made in the 30's and 40's. They are marked with "CPD" (Cincinnati Police ) or D7 for district 7 or patrol 4 for patrol wagon 4 , etc. How many collectors would pay a premium because of the markings, and who would'nt pay extra and who would pay less because they are marked ? I have a few marked cuffs in the collection, but generally I don't care if they have PD markings or not.
Thanks.
Stan
Stan,
That's why I was wondering what the font was like, and how/if you find out which PD they were from. Thanks for responding, though.
Becky
Mark Lyons 23 Feb 2008
#10
I have a chance to get some old style Peerless cuffs and others made in the 30's and 40's. They are marked with "CPD" (Cincinnati Police ) or D7 for district 7 or patrol 4 for patrol wagon 4 , etc. How many collectors would pay a premium because of the markings, and who would'nt pay extra and who would pay less because they are marked ? I have a few marked cuffs in the collection, but generally I don't care if they have PD markings or not.
Thanks.
Stan
Hi,

I have been gone for about 10 days, so its nice to be back!

I paid a premium for my almost mint Towers HC that is marked "Salem Jail".

The stampings are very nice and professionally done.

I think my only other marked cuff is a Peerless HC with "Detroit Police"

mark
O--O
asiancuffs 26 Feb 2008
#11
I have a chance to get some old style Peerless cuffs and others made in the 30's and 40's. They are marked with "CPD" (Cincinnati Police ) or D7 for district 7 or patrol 4 for patrol wagon 4 , etc. How many collectors would pay a premium because of the markings, and who would'nt pay extra and who would pay less because they are marked ? I have a few marked cuffs in the collection, but generally I don't care if they have PD markings or not.
Thanks.
Stan
Here is a pair with police marks from this side of the world.

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