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Roman_AOC 12 Mar 2008
#1
Dear fellows,

I recently acquired this pair of handcuffs.


The seller listed them as Brazilian origin.
The handcuffs bear no markings at all, neither a serial number. Some of the features that distinguish them from others, mostly Chinese 'reversed engineered' cuffs, are as following:

-- Comparatively heavy, approx. 343 g / 12 oz.
-- Lateral push button
-- Unusually shaped near-standard key (Zak-keys work fine)

May anyone provided some information regarding this special handcuff?

Kind regards
Roman

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*Please consider the change in my nick, formerly I was registered as unknown42. Regarding your real-name-policy I changed it to my forename and the nearest IATA-coded airport, this should give you a slight hint for my place of domicile.*
Cindi 12 Mar 2008
#2
Oh my, fried Chicken topped with Handcuffs. Yes I must try that sometime

C
Steve Santini 12 Mar 2008
#3
Dear fellows,

I recently acquired this pair of handcuffs.


The seller listed them as Brazilian origin.
The handcuffs bear no markings at all, neither a serial number. Some of the features that distinguish them from others, mostly Chinese 'reversed engineered' cuffs, are as following:

-- Comparatively heavy, approx. 343 g / 12 oz.
-- Lateral push button
-- Unusually shaped near-standard key (Zak-keys work fine)

May anyone provided some information regarding this special handcuff?

Kind regards
Roman

---------
*Please consider the change in my nick, formerly I was registered as unknown42. Regarding your real-name-policy I changed it to my forename and the nearest IATA-coded airport, this should give you a slight hint for my place of domicile.*
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I have the same cuffs but with a double lock plunger in the edge that must be key depressed.

I think these are Asian in origin.

How strange it is to see the the depressed dimple for the ditched jaws but there is no ditched groove in the bows themselves.

Steve Santini
Dorson 12 Mar 2008
#4
Dear fellows,

I recently acquired this pair of handcuffs.


The seller listed them as Brazilian origin.
The handcuffs bear no markings at all, neither a serial number. Some of the features that distinguish them from others, mostly Chinese 'reversed engineered' cuffs, are as following:

-- Comparatively heavy, approx. 343 g / 12 oz.
-- Lateral push button
-- Unusually shaped near-standard key (Zak-keys work fine)

May anyone provided some information regarding this special handcuff?

Kind regards
Roman

---------
*Please consider the change in my nick, formerly I was registered as unknown42. Regarding your real-name-policy I changed it to my forename and the nearest IATA-coded airport, this should give you a slight hint for my place of domicile.*
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My bet would be asian and I noticed that the chain link is not welded which is common among asain makes...
Steve Santini 12 Mar 2008
#5
Dear fellows,

I recently acquired this pair of handcuffs.


The seller listed them as Brazilian origin.
The handcuffs bear no markings at all, neither a serial number. Some of the features that distinguish them from others, mostly Chinese 'reversed engineered' cuffs, are as following:

-- Comparatively heavy, approx. 343 g / 12 oz.
-- Lateral push button
-- Unusually shaped near-standard key (Zak-keys work fine)

May anyone provided some information regarding this special handcuff?

Kind regards
Roman

---------
*Please consider the change in my nick, formerly I was registered as unknown42. Regarding your real-name-policy I changed it to my forename and the nearest IATA-coded airport, this should give you a slight hint for my place of domicile.*
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Not only are the links not welded but they seem to be almost a perfect match in size to Takeda cuffs.

I should note that the rivets are lead or white metal also typical of Takeda type cuffs.

Steve Santini
Cindi 12 Mar 2008
#6
Dear fellows,

I recently acquired this pair of handcuffs.


The seller listed them as Brazilian origin.
The handcuffs bear no markings at all, neither a serial number. Some of the features that distinguish them from others, mostly Chinese 'reversed engineered' cuffs, are as following:

-- Comparatively heavy, approx. 343 g / 12 oz.
-- Lateral push button
-- Unusually shaped near-standard key (Zak-keys work fine)

May anyone provided some information regarding this special handcuff?

Kind regards
Roman

---------
*Please consider the change in my nick, formerly I was registered as unknown42. Regarding your real-name-policy I changed it to my forename and the nearest IATA-coded airport, this should give you a slight hint for my place of domicile.*
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....and the Pans are Aluminum
Roman_AOC 12 Mar 2008
#7
Dear fellows,

I recently acquired this pair of handcuffs.


The seller listed them as Brazilian origin.
The handcuffs bear no markings at all, neither a serial number. Some of the features that distinguish them from others, mostly Chinese 'reversed engineered' cuffs, are as following:

-- Comparatively heavy, approx. 343 g / 12 oz.
-- Lateral push button
-- Unusually shaped near-standard key (Zak-keys work fine)

May anyone provided some information regarding this special handcuff?

Kind regards
Roman

---------
*Please consider the change in my nick, formerly I was registered as unknown42. Regarding your real-name-policy I changed it to my forename and the nearest IATA-coded airport, this should give you a slight hint for my place of domicile.*
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@Cindi: Yes, the pans are aluminium, and the fried chickens are in reality dried soil samples *(ggg)* I thought the intensive redish-brown would add the spirit of the red lateritic soils of Brazil...

@all

Thanks for your responses! Later the evening I'll try to add some better photos. The craftsmanship reminds a little bit of the argentinean IDSA-handcuffs.

Yours
Roman
Atame.Muc 12 Mar 2008
#8
Dear fellows,

I recently acquired this pair of handcuffs.


The seller listed them as Brazilian origin.
The handcuffs bear no markings at all, neither a serial number. Some of the features that distinguish them from others, mostly Chinese 'reversed engineered' cuffs, are as following:

-- Comparatively heavy, approx. 343 g / 12 oz.
-- Lateral push button
-- Unusually shaped near-standard key (Zak-keys work fine)

May anyone provided some information regarding this special handcuff?

Kind regards
Roman

---------
*Please consider the change in my nick, formerly I was registered as unknown42. Regarding your real-name-policy I changed it to my forename and the nearest IATA-coded airport, this should give you a slight hint for my place of domicile.*
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Hi Roman,

I have never seen this model before.

But your presentation of the handcuffs is very nice. It reminds me of my treasure hunter forums - objects in found condition .

Best regards,
Guenter
patrick-handboeienfreak 12 Mar 2008
#9
Dear fellows,

I recently acquired this pair of handcuffs.


The seller listed them as Brazilian origin.
The handcuffs bear no markings at all, neither a serial number. Some of the features that distinguish them from others, mostly Chinese 'reversed engineered' cuffs, are as following:

-- Comparatively heavy, approx. 343 g / 12 oz.
-- Lateral push button
-- Unusually shaped near-standard key (Zak-keys work fine)

May anyone provided some information regarding this special handcuff?

Kind regards
Roman

---------
*Please consider the change in my nick, formerly I was registered as unknown42. Regarding your real-name-policy I changed it to my forename and the nearest IATA-coded airport, this should give you a slight hint for my place of domicile.*
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hi

this cuff is from china
I've one myself and on the original package
was made in china also on the original holster is
the star of china
they are strong but not nicely made
very sharp edges
my links are welded (originaly)

hope this info helps you


best

patrick
Roman_AOC 12 Mar 2008
#10
Dear fellows,

I recently acquired this pair of handcuffs.


The seller listed them as Brazilian origin.
The handcuffs bear no markings at all, neither a serial number. Some of the features that distinguish them from others, mostly Chinese 'reversed engineered' cuffs, are as following:

-- Comparatively heavy, approx. 343 g / 12 oz.
-- Lateral push button
-- Unusually shaped near-standard key (Zak-keys work fine)

May anyone provided some information regarding this special handcuff?

Kind regards
Roman

---------
*Please consider the change in my nick, formerly I was registered as unknown42. Regarding your real-name-policy I changed it to my forename and the nearest IATA-coded airport, this should give you a slight hint for my place of domicile.*
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Hello @all,

some more pictures. This time I'll forgo the soil...


(comparison with Hiatt 2010)







Chinese origin may be possible, albeit the seller stated meanwhile that he'd bought them some years ago in Rio.
Patrick, did your Chinese ones also have the sticking out double lock plunger?
At the leading edge the side-plates are curved outside for approx. 1 - 2 mm, by this way the depressed dimple will center the bow. The key is made of (at least) to pieces with the handle fitted into a groove at the shaft.

Has anyone information about the Brazilian Zorro brand http://www.algemaszorro.com.br ? This is the sole Brazilian manufacturer I found will searching the www.

Kind regards
Roman

patrick-handboeienfreak 12 Mar 2008
#11
Dear fellows,

I recently acquired this pair of handcuffs.


The seller listed them as Brazilian origin.
The handcuffs bear no markings at all, neither a serial number. Some of the features that distinguish them from others, mostly Chinese 'reversed engineered' cuffs, are as following:

-- Comparatively heavy, approx. 343 g / 12 oz.
-- Lateral push button
-- Unusually shaped near-standard key (Zak-keys work fine)

May anyone provided some information regarding this special handcuff?

Kind regards
Roman

---------
*Please consider the change in my nick, formerly I was registered as unknown42. Regarding your real-name-policy I changed it to my forename and the nearest IATA-coded airport, this should give you a slight hint for my place of domicile.*
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hi roman


yes my cuffs are axactly the same
and I nkow that they where called whatever they want
to get more money for them
I've got mine directly from distributer
and know for almost for shure they are of chinees origin
I've only payd 12 dollar or so for them
I think they are worth less 20 dollar
hope you payed not to much for them

best


patrick
Roman_AOC 13 Mar 2008
#12
Dear fellows,

I recently acquired this pair of handcuffs.


The seller listed them as Brazilian origin.
The handcuffs bear no markings at all, neither a serial number. Some of the features that distinguish them from others, mostly Chinese 'reversed engineered' cuffs, are as following:

-- Comparatively heavy, approx. 343 g / 12 oz.
-- Lateral push button
-- Unusually shaped near-standard key (Zak-keys work fine)

May anyone provided some information regarding this special handcuff?

Kind regards
Roman

---------
*Please consider the change in my nick, formerly I was registered as unknown42. Regarding your real-name-policy I changed it to my forename and the nearest IATA-coded airport, this should give you a slight hint for my place of domicile.*
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Dear Patrick,

alright, lets assume they are Chinese.
But surprisingly, no Chinese manufacturer (e. g. searches with alibaba.com) has actually listed something similar.

I paid a little more than 20 $ ..., but not a total that will force me to declare bankruptcy.
So I have to wait for any John Who-Doo-Liang to write the book ‘Mysterious and Rare Chinese Handcuffs of the 20th Century’ – afterwards, in fifty years, we’ll once more discuss the value

Kind regards
Roman
Unknown / guest 13 Mar 2008
#13
Dear fellows,

I recently acquired this pair of handcuffs.


The seller listed them as Brazilian origin.
The handcuffs bear no markings at all, neither a serial number. Some of the features that distinguish them from others, mostly Chinese 'reversed engineered' cuffs, are as following:

-- Comparatively heavy, approx. 343 g / 12 oz.
-- Lateral push button
-- Unusually shaped near-standard key (Zak-keys work fine)

May anyone provided some information regarding this special handcuff?

Kind regards
Roman

---------
*Please consider the change in my nick, formerly I was registered as unknown42. Regarding your real-name-policy I changed it to my forename and the nearest IATA-coded airport, this should give you a slight hint for my place of domicile.*
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amendment - amendment - amendment

Got it, could/should be the type 'SK-02' of the Zhejiang Wenzhou Jinniu Alarm Device Co.,Ltd.:
http://www.kinoo.com.cn/en/product_view ... otoID=2887
Perhaps the DL-plunger isn't visible due to the perspective, and their picture seems to be mirrored.

Yours
Roman
Dorson 13 Mar 2008
#14
Dear fellows,

I recently acquired this pair of handcuffs.


The seller listed them as Brazilian origin.
The handcuffs bear no markings at all, neither a serial number. Some of the features that distinguish them from others, mostly Chinese 'reversed engineered' cuffs, are as following:

-- Comparatively heavy, approx. 343 g / 12 oz.
-- Lateral push button
-- Unusually shaped near-standard key (Zak-keys work fine)

May anyone provided some information regarding this special handcuff?

Kind regards
Roman

---------
*Please consider the change in my nick, formerly I was registered as unknown42. Regarding your real-name-policy I changed it to my forename and the nearest IATA-coded airport, this should give you a slight hint for my place of domicile.*
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Roman-AOC,
That company is just a reseller, not the manufacturer of the handcuffs. I went through the sight and looked at the other products. Even saw a the H&R copy in a 3 cuff configuration. Interesting site non the less.....
holstcollection 13 Mar 2008
#15
Dear fellows,

I recently acquired this pair of handcuffs.


The seller listed them as Brazilian origin.
The handcuffs bear no markings at all, neither a serial number. Some of the features that distinguish them from others, mostly Chinese 'reversed engineered' cuffs, are as following:

-- Comparatively heavy, approx. 343 g / 12 oz.
-- Lateral push button
-- Unusually shaped near-standard key (Zak-keys work fine)

May anyone provided some information regarding this special handcuff?

Kind regards
Roman

---------
*Please consider the change in my nick, formerly I was registered as unknown42. Regarding your real-name-policy I changed it to my forename and the nearest IATA-coded airport, this should give you a slight hint for my place of domicile.*
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No, these cuffs are not interesting! They are Asian low cost crap, nothing to collect.

Invest your money in high quality vintage/antique handcuffs. -Much more pleaure, I promise!
Roman_AOC 14 Mar 2008
#16
Dear fellows,

I recently acquired this pair of handcuffs.


The seller listed them as Brazilian origin.
The handcuffs bear no markings at all, neither a serial number. Some of the features that distinguish them from others, mostly Chinese 'reversed engineered' cuffs, are as following:

-- Comparatively heavy, approx. 343 g / 12 oz.
-- Lateral push button
-- Unusually shaped near-standard key (Zak-keys work fine)

May anyone provided some information regarding this special handcuff?

Kind regards
Roman

---------
*Please consider the change in my nick, formerly I was registered as unknown42. Regarding your real-name-policy I changed it to my forename and the nearest IATA-coded airport, this should give you a slight hint for my place of domicile.*
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Dear anonymous,

you stated some points that should be discussed!


>> They are Asian low cost crap […]

Indeed, the evidence are overwhelming! But perhaps we should discuss the synonym ‘crap’ as such. At least this handcuffs are an example for the actual Chinese industry, and it’s more likely a Chinese development than reversed engineering (or copying) of the Peerless and Hiatt design. Regarding the Chinese market and the local standards, they seem to be as lousy as (at your place) any over good farm horse made by S & W et al..

>> No, these cuffs are not interesting!

After all they led to some interesting comments and new knowledges over here…

>> nothing to collect.

Yes, the farmer who stored his battered T-model in the chicken barn heard the same words. Maybe even old *Grandpa-Anony* used them at the time Peerless entered the market.

Actually my small collection of about 130 items mainly concentrates on the last 6 decades and the swing-through design. Nevertheless examples such as Tower DL, Tower Bean Pattern, or some Hiatt and RCS Darbies add some contrast to remarkable American and European stepstones in development. In this context the Chinese ‘Crap’ surely isn’t a highlight and will find his place rather in the drawer than in the glass cabinet……but that's collecting.

Roman
atlanta*casting 14 Mar 2008
#17
Dear fellows,

I recently acquired this pair of handcuffs.


The seller listed them as Brazilian origin.
The handcuffs bear no markings at all, neither a serial number. Some of the features that distinguish them from others, mostly Chinese 'reversed engineered' cuffs, are as following:

-- Comparatively heavy, approx. 343 g / 12 oz.
-- Lateral push button
-- Unusually shaped near-standard key (Zak-keys work fine)

May anyone provided some information regarding this special handcuff?

Kind regards
Roman

---------
*Please consider the change in my nick, formerly I was registered as unknown42. Regarding your real-name-policy I changed it to my forename and the nearest IATA-coded airport, this should give you a slight hint for my place of domicile.*
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Hey Roman, collect what you like and don't be discouraged by

comments from the "ghost rats" ..

Every forum seems to have some.
Atame.Muc 14 Mar 2008
#18
Dear fellows,

I recently acquired this pair of handcuffs.


The seller listed them as Brazilian origin.
The handcuffs bear no markings at all, neither a serial number. Some of the features that distinguish them from others, mostly Chinese 'reversed engineered' cuffs, are as following:

-- Comparatively heavy, approx. 343 g / 12 oz.
-- Lateral push button
-- Unusually shaped near-standard key (Zak-keys work fine)

May anyone provided some information regarding this special handcuff?

Kind regards
Roman

---------
*Please consider the change in my nick, formerly I was registered as unknown42. Regarding your real-name-policy I changed it to my forename and the nearest IATA-coded airport, this should give you a slight hint for my place of domicile.*
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Chinese crap of today might become a sought after collectible tomorrow.

At least some brass Chinese cuffs, which were surely made after WWII sold for 100 and more US$ last year and 2006.

Best regards,
Guenter
http://www.atame.info/
The Amazing Michael 15 Mar 2008
#19
Dear fellows,

I recently acquired this pair of handcuffs.


The seller listed them as Brazilian origin.
The handcuffs bear no markings at all, neither a serial number. Some of the features that distinguish them from others, mostly Chinese 'reversed engineered' cuffs, are as following:

-- Comparatively heavy, approx. 343 g / 12 oz.
-- Lateral push button
-- Unusually shaped near-standard key (Zak-keys work fine)

May anyone provided some information regarding this special handcuff?

Kind regards
Roman

---------
*Please consider the change in my nick, formerly I was registered as unknown42. Regarding your real-name-policy I changed it to my forename and the nearest IATA-coded airport, this should give you a slight hint for my place of domicile.*
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I agree.....collect what you like. I have a pair of these, although, mine have the normal push pin double locks. I have them put away in one of my display cases right now so I can't photograph them right now. Here is a pic of the display that they are on.....display to the far right, upper left hand corner next to the Rivolier Two Lock High Security cuffs.


Cheers, Mike
The Amazing Michael 24 Mar 2008
#20
Dear fellows,

I recently acquired this pair of handcuffs.


The seller listed them as Brazilian origin.
The handcuffs bear no markings at all, neither a serial number. Some of the features that distinguish them from others, mostly Chinese 'reversed engineered' cuffs, are as following:

-- Comparatively heavy, approx. 343 g / 12 oz.
-- Lateral push button
-- Unusually shaped near-standard key (Zak-keys work fine)

May anyone provided some information regarding this special handcuff?

Kind regards
Roman

---------
*Please consider the change in my nick, formerly I was registered as unknown42. Regarding your real-name-policy I changed it to my forename and the nearest IATA-coded airport, this should give you a slight hint for my place of domicile.*
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Hi all, I just finished a massive re-arrange/addition/subtraction to my handcuff and lock displays, preparing for the Indy Crossroads Lock show. I had mentioned earlier that I did not have access to my Aisan cuffs, like the one's mentioned on this thread. Well, as luck would have it, they did not make the cut on the finished display board and I had a chance to photograph them. Here are a few photos:


Notice that my set has a little differnt double lock push-pin than the other one. Also, these cuffs are pretty darn heavy for cheap Aisan junk.....in fact, the look of the material, the construction, the weight, and other characteristics of these cuffs look and feel remarkably like the Hiatt 1960 handcuffs that I own. Anyone else with me on this??? Anyway, just thought I would share this.

Cheers, Mike
Duarte 13 Mar 2010
#21
Dear fellows,

I recently acquired this pair of handcuffs.


The seller listed them as Brazilian origin.
The handcuffs bear no markings at all, neither a serial number. Some of the features that distinguish them from others, mostly Chinese 'reversed engineered' cuffs, are as following:

-- Comparatively heavy, approx. 343 g / 12 oz.
-- Lateral push button
-- Unusually shaped near-standard key (Zak-keys work fine)

May anyone provided some information regarding this special handcuff?

Kind regards
Roman

---------
*Please consider the change in my nick, formerly I was registered as unknown42. Regarding your real-name-policy I changed it to my forename and the nearest IATA-coded airport, this should give you a slight hint for my place of domicile.*
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I've seen these on eBay (Gemany, I think..) advertised as Brazilian. Brazil has the Zorro / German brands, made at the same factory, and Rossi handcuffs. Rossi makes hunting rifles, etc.. Zorro just makes restraints.
Both are extremely hard to get outside Brazil.
Steve Santini 13 Mar 2010
#22
Dear fellows,

I recently acquired this pair of handcuffs.


The seller listed them as Brazilian origin.
The handcuffs bear no markings at all, neither a serial number. Some of the features that distinguish them from others, mostly Chinese 'reversed engineered' cuffs, are as following:

-- Comparatively heavy, approx. 343 g / 12 oz.
-- Lateral push button
-- Unusually shaped near-standard key (Zak-keys work fine)

May anyone provided some information regarding this special handcuff?

Kind regards
Roman

---------
*Please consider the change in my nick, formerly I was registered as unknown42. Regarding your real-name-policy I changed it to my forename and the nearest IATA-coded airport, this should give you a slight hint for my place of domicile.*
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To see my original display cabinets being put to good use.

Bravo Amazing.

Steve