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New handcuff model from Clejuso

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Michael Busch 10 Nov 2008
#1
Hi everyone,

Clejuso have introduced the model 9 handcuff, the first pattern that is produced following the "Technical Guidelines" of the German police.

The handcuffs are made of stainless steel, use a non-standard key, there are key-holes on both sides of the lockcase.

Currently Clejuso does not sell these cuffs to individuals, but I was able to obtain some sets, which I would like to offer here.

The cuffs are unused, come with two keys in the original box.

The price for one set is EUR 85.00, postage is extra. Rather then to sell I would like to trade the cuffs, so please let me know what you have to offer.

Best wishes,

Michael



Atame 10 Nov 2008
#2
Hi everyone,

Michel is right. Clemen&Jung refuse to sell No.9 to private persons. Like Hagge's "Deutsche Polizei" this model is for official use only. So we will unfortunately not able to offer these very interesting new handcuffs at http://www.cuffsland.com/ .

Clemen&Jung told us that they are not sure if this policy might change in future. If you know a police officer, he might get a No.9 for you via http://www.enforcer.de/ - but these cuffs are quite expensive.

Best regards,
Guenter
Ian McColl 11 Nov 2008
#3
Hi everyone,

Clejuso have introduced the model 9 handcuff, the first pattern that is produced following the "Technical Guidelines" of the German police.

The handcuffs are made of stainless steel, use a non-standard key, there are key-holes on both sides of the lockcase.

Currently Clejuso does not sell these cuffs to individuals, but I was able to obtain some sets, which I would like to offer here.

The cuffs are unused, come with two keys in the original box.

The price for one set is EUR 85.00, postage is extra. Rather then to sell I would like to trade the cuffs, so please let me know what you have to offer.

Best wishes,

Michael



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Hi Michael, Are you familar with the opening technique discovered by Steve Santini with the Clejuso 12 (?) and if so, does it work on this cuff ?

As I cannot afford the cuffs at the moment, is it possible to get a pair of spare keys?

Ian
martin 11 Nov 2008
#4
Hi everyone,

Clejuso have introduced the model 9 handcuff, the first pattern that is produced following the "Technical Guidelines" of the German police.

The handcuffs are made of stainless steel, use a non-standard key, there are key-holes on both sides of the lockcase.

Currently Clejuso does not sell these cuffs to individuals, but I was able to obtain some sets, which I would like to offer here.

The cuffs are unused, come with two keys in the original box.

The price for one set is EUR 85.00, postage is extra. Rather then to sell I would like to trade the cuffs, so please let me know what you have to offer.

Best wishes,

Michael



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Hi,

oh, indeed, there was a thread about this model when it came out little over one month ago in the german forum:
http://www.handschellenforum.de/forum/v ... php?t=3048
with a few more pictures and technical data, as well as a comparision to the No. 12. I promised Joe to post a translation here some day but I was too busy, so thanks to Michael for bringing this up! I'll try to add some information now at least...

So even if you can't read german I can recommend the link for the pictures - they all get really high-res when clicked. The comparision pic at the end of the first post shows the size difference to a No. 12 - actually the No. 9s inner shape is identical to the No. 12A. Wrist distance is slightly larger though.

To Ians Question: yes I am very familiar with the Clejuso 12 opening technique (and Michael also should be, at least after last year's Cannon's convention ) and it doesn't work on the No. 9. It also doesn't work on most new No. 12s (they changed one part, the lower part of the locking pawl, but obviously a few old ones are still sold from time to time). It's also much more difficult to open the double lock by hitting the cuff against something. Opening the double locked cuff with the key on the other hand just needs about 90 degrees of rotation in one direction, as double lock and single lock are openend by the two sides of the key directly after each other. As the keyholes are on both sides the cuff almost is symmetrical.

But of course other opening methods were tested: the double lock doesn't need the three-bitted-key, it can be opened with a single but quite stiff bent wire. Opening the 3 independent locking pawls which are divided by thin sheets of metal, is much more difficult, so shimming is the better way. There's a very light shim protection also - an inserted shim can block the pawls from going down, so you should press the bow in a little before inserting the shim completely. But the shim has to be wide enough, a thin wire will not work! So even though it's not as secure as it might be (for example a star/yuil like gear would prevent shimming completely) it's a great improvement in security compared to standard clejusos or most other cuffs.

It's also better in other respects - finally clejuso added a milled in groove to the bow, and all parts are a bit thicker (swinging bow 3.5mm - that's quite OK). Also the key is of quite a high quality, it's made from 2mm steel and much more difficult to break or bend than the similar Ralkem key or also normal clejuso keys. The key's shape is strange though.

There's also another tiny detail: the insert in the center of the lock, as known from Ralkem, can rotate all around, but it will slightly snap in in the right positions to insert or remove the key. So it doesn't get turned wrong as easy during use or transport as the ralkem one does.

If there are any more questions regarding the No. 9 - feel free to ask...

Greetings from Germany,
Martin

P.S.: Ian: contact me at martin [a] handschellenforum.de about the keys...
Michael Busch 11 Nov 2008
#5
Hi everyone,

Clejuso have introduced the model 9 handcuff, the first pattern that is produced following the "Technical Guidelines" of the German police.

The handcuffs are made of stainless steel, use a non-standard key, there are key-holes on both sides of the lockcase.

Currently Clejuso does not sell these cuffs to individuals, but I was able to obtain some sets, which I would like to offer here.

The cuffs are unused, come with two keys in the original box.

The price for one set is EUR 85.00, postage is extra. Rather then to sell I would like to trade the cuffs, so please let me know what you have to offer.

Best wishes,

Michael



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Hi again,

yes, I tried to open the cuffs with the Steve Santini method and it did not work. This, however, does not mean too much, as most of the times it does not work, when I try it. Martin knows what I am talking about

Ian, I think I will not be able to get additional keys, but I can borrow you one from my set, if you wish. Just let me know and I will send it over.

Thank you Martin for your link to the thread on the German forum, as it seems I should be there more often.

Best to all,

Michael
Michael Busch 11 Nov 2008
#6
Hi everyone,

Clejuso have introduced the model 9 handcuff, the first pattern that is produced following the "Technical Guidelines" of the German police.

The handcuffs are made of stainless steel, use a non-standard key, there are key-holes on both sides of the lockcase.

Currently Clejuso does not sell these cuffs to individuals, but I was able to obtain some sets, which I would like to offer here.

The cuffs are unused, come with two keys in the original box.

The price for one set is EUR 85.00, postage is extra. Rather then to sell I would like to trade the cuffs, so please let me know what you have to offer.

Best wishes,

Michael



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Hi again,

after checking my mails I have to say that all cuffs are sold/traded.

Best,

Michael
Andy-58 11 Nov 2008
#7
Hi everyone,

Clejuso have introduced the model 9 handcuff, the first pattern that is produced following the "Technical Guidelines" of the German police.

The handcuffs are made of stainless steel, use a non-standard key, there are key-holes on both sides of the lockcase.

Currently Clejuso does not sell these cuffs to individuals, but I was able to obtain some sets, which I would like to offer here.

The cuffs are unused, come with two keys in the original box.

The price for one set is EUR 85.00, postage is extra. Rather then to sell I would like to trade the cuffs, so please let me know what you have to offer.

Best wishes,

Michael



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Hello,
there are some more pictures and a description on my page: http://www.andys-handschellensammlung.d ... o_9_en.htm

At http://www.enforcer.de every one can buy the Clejuso No 9, at least if you are living in Germany. But perhaps they are also exporting them. Cuffs are expensive, 83 Euro, but sales tax (19%!) and postage will be added. There seems to be no other shop selling Clejoso No. 9 to everyone.

Best regards
Andy-58
Siegfried 14 Nov 2008
#8
Hi everyone,

Clejuso have introduced the model 9 handcuff, the first pattern that is produced following the "Technical Guidelines" of the German police.

The handcuffs are made of stainless steel, use a non-standard key, there are key-holes on both sides of the lockcase.

Currently Clejuso does not sell these cuffs to individuals, but I was able to obtain some sets, which I would like to offer here.

The cuffs are unused, come with two keys in the original box.

The price for one set is EUR 85.00, postage is extra. Rather then to sell I would like to trade the cuffs, so please let me know what you have to offer.

Best wishes,

Michael



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Hallo!

I wrote to the enforcer.de an asked that I a privat man want to buy a Nr.9. And they say:

Hallo,
nein . Wir liefern nur an Behörden und Angehörige.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
David Pülz
Enforcer Pülz GmbH


So tehy only sell to police and similar.

Bye
Siegfried
A. Spear 14 Nov 2008
#9
Hi everyone,

Clejuso have introduced the model 9 handcuff, the first pattern that is produced following the "Technical Guidelines" of the German police.

The handcuffs are made of stainless steel, use a non-standard key, there are key-holes on both sides of the lockcase.

Currently Clejuso does not sell these cuffs to individuals, but I was able to obtain some sets, which I would like to offer here.

The cuffs are unused, come with two keys in the original box.

The price for one set is EUR 85.00, postage is extra. Rather then to sell I would like to trade the cuffs, so please let me know what you have to offer.

Best wishes,

Michael



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Sieg, just demand to see his papers and he'll get the message.
Anonymous 15 Nov 2008
#10
Hi everyone,

Clejuso have introduced the model 9 handcuff, the first pattern that is produced following the "Technical Guidelines" of the German police.

The handcuffs are made of stainless steel, use a non-standard key, there are key-holes on both sides of the lockcase.

Currently Clejuso does not sell these cuffs to individuals, but I was able to obtain some sets, which I would like to offer here.

The cuffs are unused, come with two keys in the original box.

The price for one set is EUR 85.00, postage is extra. Rather then to sell I would like to trade the cuffs, so please let me know what you have to offer.

Best wishes,

Michael



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The spelling should be Speer.
Andy-58 15 Nov 2008
#11
Hi everyone,

Clejuso have introduced the model 9 handcuff, the first pattern that is produced following the "Technical Guidelines" of the German police.

The handcuffs are made of stainless steel, use a non-standard key, there are key-holes on both sides of the lockcase.

Currently Clejuso does not sell these cuffs to individuals, but I was able to obtain some sets, which I would like to offer here.

The cuffs are unused, come with two keys in the original box.

The price for one set is EUR 85.00, postage is extra. Rather then to sell I would like to trade the cuffs, so please let me know what you have to offer.

Best wishes,

Michael



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Hello,
i have just used their online shop. I is a little bit curious, you click on "bestellen" (place order) and nothing happens. But if you go to "Warenkorb" (shopping cart) you will find it filled out with your clejuso - so many examples as you have clicked before on "bestellen"... But you can change the number of items before placing order. A few days later i had a confirmation of order and a few additional days later cuffs has arrived. But this was in germany (no international order) and i have ordered at oct. 7th. Perhaps today it is too late for private persons. But there are no hints in their online shop. If you try to order a Hagge you will be informed immediately that they are for police etc. only or that they are out of stock (the handcuff shop).

Best regards