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martin 19 Nov 2008
#1
Hi,

talking about stuff I planned to share also with this forum, but never found the time...

Once upon a time there was a poor handcuff. It was meant to be secure by its creators, but it wasn't. So the evil blacksmith came along and drilled holes in it to attach padlocks. And he saw that it was bad - so he sold them. The new owner kept them warm an well for a while, but only until another pair without holes appeared, so the poor handcuffs were sold again.

The new new owner couldn't accept that suffering any more and decided it's time to put the poor cuffs out of their misery, so they were cut apart:



One half again was sold, the other one was opened for research purposes. It was relatively easy to drill open the bolts holding the lockcase, the one holding the bow could remain:



so it became obvious that even though the lock is made by a well known british company it containen non of their more advanced anti-picking concepts, and even worse the locking bolt can directly be accessed from behind (as double lock activator) and used to put tension on the levers to pick them.


The parts are now waiting to be modified to increase the picking resistance at least a little bit, and possibly also scramble the keycode.

Also the other half of the cuff was opened by it's new owner, and surprisingly it looked basically the same:

This half later was modified into a working cutoff version, which you can see on
Andy's page


Of course it also would have been possible to just read the Patent to see the inner workings, but isn't it always nice to verify?

Hope you enjoyed this little story of pain and suffering, but also salvation and reincarnation

Greetings,
Martin
Edgeplay_Cgo 19 Nov 2008
#2
Thanks, Martin, for some good photos and a neat story.

GB68 20 Nov 2008
#3
Hi,

talking about stuff I planned to share also with this forum, but never found the time...

Once upon a time there was a poor handcuff. It was meant to be secure by its creators, but it wasn't. So the evil blacksmith came along and drilled holes in it to attach padlocks. And he saw that it was bad - so he sold them. The new owner kept them warm an well for a while, but only until another pair without holes appeared, so the poor handcuffs were sold again.

The new new owner couldn't accept that suffering any more and decided it's time to put the poor cuffs out of their misery, so they were cut apart:



One half again was sold, the other one was opened for research purposes. It was relatively easy to drill open the bolts holding the lockcase, the one holding the bow could remain:



so it became obvious that even though the lock is made by a well known british company it containen non of their more advanced anti-picking concepts, and even worse the locking bolt can directly be accessed from behind (as double lock activator) and used to put tension on the levers to pick them.


The parts are now waiting to be modified to increase the picking resistance at least a little bit, and possibly also scramble the keycode.

Also the other half of the cuff was opened by it's new owner, and surprisingly it looked basically the same:

This half later was modified into a working cutoff version, which you can see on
Andy's page


Of course it also would have been possible to just read the Patent to see the inner workings, but isn't it always nice to verify?

Hope you enjoyed this little story of pain and suffering, but also salvation and reincarnation

Greetings,
Martin
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I was going to buy these awhile back on ebay ...and take them apart just like this .....i cant belive someone drilled them out ..lol....nice pics and i liked the story..
Andy-58 20 Nov 2008
#4
Hi,

talking about stuff I planned to share also with this forum, but never found the time...

Once upon a time there was a poor handcuff. It was meant to be secure by its creators, but it wasn't. So the evil blacksmith came along and drilled holes in it to attach padlocks. And he saw that it was bad - so he sold them. The new owner kept them warm an well for a while, but only until another pair without holes appeared, so the poor handcuffs were sold again.

The new new owner couldn't accept that suffering any more and decided it's time to put the poor cuffs out of their misery, so they were cut apart:



One half again was sold, the other one was opened for research purposes. It was relatively easy to drill open the bolts holding the lockcase, the one holding the bow could remain:



so it became obvious that even though the lock is made by a well known british company it containen non of their more advanced anti-picking concepts, and even worse the locking bolt can directly be accessed from behind (as double lock activator) and used to put tension on the levers to pick them.


The parts are now waiting to be modified to increase the picking resistance at least a little bit, and possibly also scramble the keycode.

Also the other half of the cuff was opened by it's new owner, and surprisingly it looked basically the same:

This half later was modified into a working cutoff version, which you can see on
Andy's page


Of course it also would have been possible to just read the Patent to see the inner workings, but isn't it always nice to verify?

Hope you enjoyed this little story of pain and suffering, but also salvation and reincarnation

Greetings,
Martin
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Hello,
i am the owner of the other half. We both have also a complete functional pair of Chubb Detainer so it was easier to "destroy" an additional pair that has been maltreated by umprofessional drillings...

Best regards
Andy-58