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PETCHI 05 Feb 2009
#1
Hello

Be advise about a dishonest guy on eBay in Germany. I cannot give his name on internet but I shall give you his first name: Stefan. For the mail the first name is Pascal and the mane W.D

I have bought some handcuffs and I have paid for that but I have not received the cuffs expected !!!! After some emails I told him my surprise. So I sent him back a part of the order. We were agree about the refund but second bad surprise I have never received all my money but just a little part

Take care gentlemen with this guy

For course He does not answer my mail now


http://menottescollection.net
Dorson 06 Feb 2009
#2
Have you pursued this through ebay and paypal?
Anonymous 06 Feb 2009
#3
Hello

Be advise about a dishonest guy on eBay in Germany. I cannot give his name on internet but I shall give you his first name: Stefan. For the mail the first name is Pascal and the mane W.D

I have bought some handcuffs and I have paid for that but I have not received the cuffs expected !!!! After some emails I told him my surprise. So I sent him back a part of the order. We were agree about the refund but second bad surprise I have never received all my money but just a little part

Take care gentlemen with this guy

For course He does not answer my mail now


http://menottescollection.net
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I have dealt with this individual in August of 08. I purchased five sets of cuffs (at one time) which I never received. It took me months to get proof of shipping and then he claimed it was my fault for not asking for insurance. I confirmed that the receipt was real through the German post office. I even spotted an ebay auction of his with the same photo of one of my cuffs which he claimed was a "second chance".

His tactics seem to be delay, delay, delay and then be defensive. He is very, very slow to communicate. (Whether intentional or not, the delayed process went beyond the time limit for a complaint to PayPal.)

He has good feedback and comes up with some very nice items but I would NEVER deal with him again.

Good Luck dealing with this guy.

Damon
Damon Shields 06 Feb 2009
#4
Hello

Be advise about a dishonest guy on eBay in Germany. I cannot give his name on internet but I shall give you his first name: Stefan. For the mail the first name is Pascal and the mane W.D

I have bought some handcuffs and I have paid for that but I have not received the cuffs expected !!!! After some emails I told him my surprise. So I sent him back a part of the order. We were agree about the refund but second bad surprise I have never received all my money but just a little part

Take care gentlemen with this guy

For course He does not answer my mail now


http://menottescollection.net
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Didn't mean to leave my name of the last.

I have dealt with this individual before. I purchased five sets of cuffs (at one time) which I never received. It took me months to get proof of shipping and then he claimed it was my fault for not asking for insurance. I confirmed that the receipt was real through the German post office. I even spotted a ebay auction of his with the same photo of one of my cuffs which he claimed was a "second chance".

His tactics seem to be delay, delay, delay and then be defensive. He is very, very slow to communicate. (Whether intentional or not, the delayed process went beyond the time limit for a complaint to PayPal.)

He has good feedback and comes up with some very nice items but I would NEVER deal with him again.

Good Luck dealing with this guy.

Damon Shields
ushandcuffs.com
PETCHI 06 Feb 2009
#5
Hello

Be advise about a dishonest guy on eBay in Germany. I cannot give his name on internet but I shall give you his first name: Stefan. For the mail the first name is Pascal and the mane W.D

I have bought some handcuffs and I have paid for that but I have not received the cuffs expected !!!! After some emails I told him my surprise. So I sent him back a part of the order. We were agree about the refund but second bad surprise I have never received all my money but just a little part

Take care gentlemen with this guy

For course He does not answer my mail now


http://menottescollection.net
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My purchase was not a deal thanks to eBay. This guy sent me an email with photos and prices. I was very surprised when I have received cuffs not requested
I sent the money with IBAN and BIC.
So there is no solution for me to have a refund.
It seems that I am not alone to have problems with this guy.

Be advise gentlemen: Stefan or Pascal W--G--D on eBay Germany

http://menottescollection.net
patrick-handboeienfreak 06 Feb 2009
#6
Hello

Be advise about a dishonest guy on eBay in Germany. I cannot give his name on internet but I shall give you his first name: Stefan. For the mail the first name is Pascal and the mane W.D

I have bought some handcuffs and I have paid for that but I have not received the cuffs expected !!!! After some emails I told him my surprise. So I sent him back a part of the order. We were agree about the refund but second bad surprise I have never received all my money but just a little part

Take care gentlemen with this guy

For course He does not answer my mail now


http://menottescollection.net
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hi
I think you mean this seller
he got A lot of friends or other nick names who bid on his actions
only if the price right he will accept your bid
and let it go
he wait and wait
hope that claim time is closed
beware and open A dispute before time is up

http://cgi.ebay.nl/TOWER-PAT-1874-1882- ... 240%3A1318


take care


best

patrick
PETCHI 06 Feb 2009
#7
Hello

Be advise about a dishonest guy on eBay in Germany. I cannot give his name on internet but I shall give you his first name: Stefan. For the mail the first name is Pascal and the mane W.D

I have bought some handcuffs and I have paid for that but I have not received the cuffs expected !!!! After some emails I told him my surprise. So I sent him back a part of the order. We were agree about the refund but second bad surprise I have never received all my money but just a little part

Take care gentlemen with this guy

For course He does not answer my mail now


http://menottescollection.net
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Yes It is Stefan24681
Avoid this seller if you do not want problems too
I confirm I have not received the cuffs bought and after a return he did not refund me the money requested...
Bad.....very bad


http://menottescollection.net
Dorson 06 Feb 2009
#8
Hello

Be advise about a dishonest guy on eBay in Germany. I cannot give his name on internet but I shall give you his first name: Stefan. For the mail the first name is Pascal and the mane W.D

I have bought some handcuffs and I have paid for that but I have not received the cuffs expected !!!! After some emails I told him my surprise. So I sent him back a part of the order. We were agree about the refund but second bad surprise I have never received all my money but just a little part

Take care gentlemen with this guy

For course He does not answer my mail now


http://menottescollection.net
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Has it occurred to anyone since this guy has done it repeatedly and did it across countries borders that you would contact the Deutsche Polizei, Bundeskriminalamt to investigate. If you all files complaints collectively, it will get better results. Just a thought...

-Dorson
PETCHI 06 Feb 2009
#9
Hello

Be advise about a dishonest guy on eBay in Germany. I cannot give his name on internet but I shall give you his first name: Stefan. For the mail the first name is Pascal and the mane W.D

I have bought some handcuffs and I have paid for that but I have not received the cuffs expected !!!! After some emails I told him my surprise. So I sent him back a part of the order. We were agree about the refund but second bad surprise I have never received all my money but just a little part

Take care gentlemen with this guy

For course He does not answer my mail now


http://menottescollection.net
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Very good idea.
I shall go to the german police when I go in GERMANY for my job....Very soon within 3 weeks in STUTTGART
I have got his name and address.
Please if you had had problems with this guy contact me
Send me your claim and I shall give them to the police with mine
I shall keep you advise

http://menottescollection.net
Nils 06 Feb 2009
#10
Hello

Be advise about a dishonest guy on eBay in Germany. I cannot give his name on internet but I shall give you his first name: Stefan. For the mail the first name is Pascal and the mane W.D

I have bought some handcuffs and I have paid for that but I have not received the cuffs expected !!!! After some emails I told him my surprise. So I sent him back a part of the order. We were agree about the refund but second bad surprise I have never received all my money but just a little part

Take care gentlemen with this guy

For course He does not answer my mail now


http://menottescollection.net
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I bought a pair of Bean Cobb handcuffs from him on ebay.

He claimed he had shipped them to another buyer by accident and was waiting for their return.

I never got them. I got a refund only after 8 weeks and after filing a dispute.

Interesting thread.

Nils
Alex 07 Feb 2009
#11
Hello

Be advise about a dishonest guy on eBay in Germany. I cannot give his name on internet but I shall give you his first name: Stefan. For the mail the first name is Pascal and the mane W.D

I have bought some handcuffs and I have paid for that but I have not received the cuffs expected !!!! After some emails I told him my surprise. So I sent him back a part of the order. We were agree about the refund but second bad surprise I have never received all my money but just a little part

Take care gentlemen with this guy

For course He does not answer my mail now


http://menottescollection.net
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Hello to everybody or should I say to the victims of Stefan

This is my short story which took some month until it came to an end:

In late summer 2007 he offered a pair of Tower handcuffs on ebay Germany.
First he quoted a longer text on the cuffs in general, taken from atames page.
Then he wrote: The handcuffs offered in this auction are in a very good (!), fully working (!) condition. Only the pin of one side shows a bit (!) of dammage, but this doesnt affect working condition in any way (have a look to the photo). The handcuffs will be sold without the original key.
(The last one means: no key at all.)

Two pics were included, one like this (with a fitting key):

And another one, cuffs half open, but showing the same surfaces without the dammage.

Receiving and opening the package I saw this:


Please remember his ebay description.

I wrote several mails (the first ones in a really friendly way), but his answer wasnt more than You got exactly what I offered in the auction!

Then I took a lawyer who wrote two letters first to his ebay adress and a second to his shipping adress (they were different) without any reaction.
At last the lawyer send a order for payment (including the lawyers fees) which showed succes. (No reaction on this would have ment involving the court automatically.)
This took about 4 months and ment silence on stefans auctions on ebay for about half a year.
But as I see now, it didnt mean an end of deceit.

Alex

(Shown are not the original auctions pics. And I hope my english translation is close to the german origin.)
Dorson 07 Feb 2009
#12
Hello

Be advise about a dishonest guy on eBay in Germany. I cannot give his name on internet but I shall give you his first name: Stefan. For the mail the first name is Pascal and the mane W.D

I have bought some handcuffs and I have paid for that but I have not received the cuffs expected !!!! After some emails I told him my surprise. So I sent him back a part of the order. We were agree about the refund but second bad surprise I have never received all my money but just a little part

Take care gentlemen with this guy

For course He does not answer my mail now


http://menottescollection.net
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I notice the top picture shows a Kyoung Chang key which in no way would ever work in the lock. Way to small......
PETCHI 07 Feb 2009
#13
Hello

Be advise about a dishonest guy on eBay in Germany. I cannot give his name on internet but I shall give you his first name: Stefan. For the mail the first name is Pascal and the mane W.D

I have bought some handcuffs and I have paid for that but I have not received the cuffs expected !!!! After some emails I told him my surprise. So I sent him back a part of the order. We were agree about the refund but second bad surprise I have never received all my money but just a little part

Take care gentlemen with this guy

For course He does not answer my mail now


http://menottescollection.net
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Hello

I have sent an email to eBay about this dishonnest seller.
One of the cuffs received was in very bad condition with a lot of scratchs . It was not the cuffs seen on the photo
He never answered my questions with some explanations about the cuffs bought and never received.

http://menottescollection.net
Alex 07 Feb 2009
#14
Hello

Be advise about a dishonest guy on eBay in Germany. I cannot give his name on internet but I shall give you his first name: Stefan. For the mail the first name is Pascal and the mane W.D

I have bought some handcuffs and I have paid for that but I have not received the cuffs expected !!!! After some emails I told him my surprise. So I sent him back a part of the order. We were agree about the refund but second bad surprise I have never received all my money but just a little part

Take care gentlemen with this guy

For course He does not answer my mail now


http://menottescollection.net
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Hello,

sure the key on the first pic can't work, on the ebay photo the fitting key was displayed.
But for reasons of copyright I didn't want to post the original one.
And for *The handcuffs will be sold without the original key.* I couldn't take the right one, I took any key as an example.

Alex
PETCHI 08 Feb 2009
#15
Hello

Be advise about a dishonest guy on eBay in Germany. I cannot give his name on internet but I shall give you his first name: Stefan. For the mail the first name is Pascal and the mane W.D

I have bought some handcuffs and I have paid for that but I have not received the cuffs expected !!!! After some emails I told him my surprise. So I sent him back a part of the order. We were agree about the refund but second bad surprise I have never received all my money but just a little part

Take care gentlemen with this guy

For course He does not answer my mail now


http://menottescollection.net
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If you understand the french, I have received an answer from eBay about this seller

"Bonjour ,

Au nom de l'ensemble de l'equipe ebay je vous remercie de ces
informations concernant les agissements du membre stefan2468.

Sachez que nous avons bien pris en compte les éléments que vous nous
avez communiqués et je vous informe que nous prendrons les mesures
appropriées envers cet utilisateur le plutôt possible. Ces mesures
peuvent aller d'un avertissement jusqu'à la suspension temporaire ou
définitive du compte."

Wait and see about stefan2468's business on eBay. It could be stop very quickly

http://menottescollection.net
Dorson 08 Feb 2009
#16
Hello

Be advise about a dishonest guy on eBay in Germany. I cannot give his name on internet but I shall give you his first name: Stefan. For the mail the first name is Pascal and the mane W.D

I have bought some handcuffs and I have paid for that but I have not received the cuffs expected !!!! After some emails I told him my surprise. So I sent him back a part of the order. We were agree about the refund but second bad surprise I have never received all my money but just a little part

Take care gentlemen with this guy

For course He does not answer my mail now


http://menottescollection.net
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That's form letter response you got. I have seen those responses before.
Atlanta*Casting 08 Feb 2009
#17
Hello

Be advise about a dishonest guy on eBay in Germany. I cannot give his name on internet but I shall give you his first name: Stefan. For the mail the first name is Pascal and the mane W.D

I have bought some handcuffs and I have paid for that but I have not received the cuffs expected !!!! After some emails I told him my surprise. So I sent him back a part of the order. We were agree about the refund but second bad surprise I have never received all my money but just a little part

Take care gentlemen with this guy

For course He does not answer my mail now


http://menottescollection.net
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Translator is here.

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PETCHI 15 Feb 2009
#18
Hello

Be advise about a dishonest guy on eBay in Germany. I cannot give his name on internet but I shall give you his first name: Stefan. For the mail the first name is Pascal and the mane W.D

I have bought some handcuffs and I have paid for that but I have not received the cuffs expected !!!! After some emails I told him my surprise. So I sent him back a part of the order. We were agree about the refund but second bad surprise I have never received all my money but just a little part

Take care gentlemen with this guy

For course He does not answer my mail now


http://menottescollection.net
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Please gentlemen I am looking for a photo of the original key about the HIATTS 1970 model
thanks so much for your help.

http://menottescollection.net
Martin 16 Feb 2009
#19
Hello

Be advise about a dishonest guy on eBay in Germany. I cannot give his name on internet but I shall give you his first name: Stefan. For the mail the first name is Pascal and the mane W.D

I have bought some handcuffs and I have paid for that but I have not received the cuffs expected !!!! After some emails I told him my surprise. So I sent him back a part of the order. We were agree about the refund but second bad surprise I have never received all my money but just a little part

Take care gentlemen with this guy

For course He does not answer my mail now


http://menottescollection.net
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Hi Petchi,

here's a picture (click to enlarge) of an 1970 right out of it's Box including the key:



But now you've got to let us know why you ask in this thread Did Stefan sell you 1970s with something you think isn't original?

Greetings,
Martin
PETCHI 16 Feb 2009
#20
Hello

Be advise about a dishonest guy on eBay in Germany. I cannot give his name on internet but I shall give you his first name: Stefan. For the mail the first name is Pascal and the mane W.D

I have bought some handcuffs and I have paid for that but I have not received the cuffs expected !!!! After some emails I told him my surprise. So I sent him back a part of the order. We were agree about the refund but second bad surprise I have never received all my money but just a little part

Take care gentlemen with this guy

For course He does not answer my mail now


http://menottescollection.net
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Hello everybody

Thanks for this fast answer.

In fact yes !I sent him back a model 1970 but He answered me this week-end that he received the cuffs but whithout the original key. It is the reason why he is keeping 53. 53 just for a key it is not very funny

It is not the value of this english model. So I need to have a look to check if I find this key in my stock.

He is ready to refund me all my money but He wants his key.

Have a nice week gentlemen

http://menottescollection.net
Josef 16 Feb 2009
#21
Hello

Be advise about a dishonest guy on eBay in Germany. I cannot give his name on internet but I shall give you his first name: Stefan. For the mail the first name is Pascal and the mane W.D

I have bought some handcuffs and I have paid for that but I have not received the cuffs expected !!!! After some emails I told him my surprise. So I sent him back a part of the order. We were agree about the refund but second bad surprise I have never received all my money but just a little part

Take care gentlemen with this guy

For course He does not answer my mail now


http://menottescollection.net
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Hi Martin,

where did you get Hiatt 1970 with original box?? I am searching for mint boxed pair for ages...

Josef from www.pouta.org