Possible rare cuff for sale

Hi all,

I just got back from Toronto where my wife and I had to take our daughter to Sick Children's Hospital for tests regarding a painful medical condition she has had for the past 1 1/2 years.

It took us over 8 months to even get in to be seen by a team of specialists.

Anyway, there are more tests in store for Shaina and hopefully in the long run they will be able to help her with this problem.

On our way back from Toronto today I stopped in to see a buddy of mine who I have known for over 25 years and who, by and large, is a collector or U.S. Civil War items.

In the course of his collecting he often finds me many rare restraints.

This time I came away with a number of unusual restraints and rare padlocks and one of the "cuffs"? I snagged was the pair pictured.

They are basically seized or rusted closed and aside from a cursory spray of WD40 I have not worked on them in any serious manner yet.

Both locks, or shackles, have a swinging brass keyhole cover that has a federal U.S. eagle etched into it and a patent date of 1870.







Anyway, I am offering these for sale and any serious parties interested in them may contact me at [email protected]

Cheers, Steve Santini

Perhaps these are not even handcuffs of any sort but given the size of the wrist holes they seem to possibly be just that.

I do not know quite what they are as I have never owned a set like these before,(I do seem to remember that some time back on this forum someone mentioned a similiar lock/shackle).

Perhaps I am mistaken.

In any event, they are rather unusual.

Cheers, Steve

Hi all,

I just got back from Toronto where my wife and I had to take our daughter to Sick Children's Hospital for tests regarding a painful medical condition she has had for the past 1 1/2 years.

It took us over 8 months to even get in to be seen by a team of specialists.

Anyway, there are more tests in store for Shaina and hopefully in the long run they will be able to help her with this problem.

On our way back from Toronto today I stopped in to see a buddy of mine who I have known for over 25 years and who, by and large, is a collector or U.S. Civil War items.

In the course of his collecting he often finds me many rare restraints.

This time I came away with a number of unusual restraints and rare padlocks and one of the "cuffs"? I snagged was the pair pictured.

They are basically seized or rusted closed and aside from a cursory spray of WD40 I have not worked on them in any serious manner yet.

Both locks, or shackles, have a swinging brass keyhole cover that has a federal U.S. eagle etched into it and a patent date of 1870.







Anyway, I am offering these for sale and any serious parties interested in them may contact me at [email protected]

Cheers, Steve Santini

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Steve,

If I remember correctly these are not handcuffs but two railroad seals put together to make a handcuff. I tried to find a thread on the Forum but have not found it yet.

Ron

Hi all,

I just got back from Toronto where my wife and I had to take our daughter to Sick Children's Hospital for tests regarding a painful medical condition she has had for the past 1 1/2 years.

It took us over 8 months to even get in to be seen by a team of specialists.

Anyway, there are more tests in store for Shaina and hopefully in the long run they will be able to help her with this problem.

On our way back from Toronto today I stopped in to see a buddy of mine who I have known for over 25 years and who, by and large, is a collector or U.S. Civil War items.

In the course of his collecting he often finds me many rare restraints.

This time I came away with a number of unusual restraints and rare padlocks and one of the "cuffs"? I snagged was the pair pictured.

They are basically seized or rusted closed and aside from a cursory spray of WD40 I have not worked on them in any serious manner yet.

Both locks, or shackles, have a swinging brass keyhole cover that has a federal U.S. eagle etched into it and a patent date of 1870.







Anyway, I am offering these for sale and any serious parties interested in them may contact me at [email protected]

Cheers, Steve Santini

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Indeed this may be the case.

As I said, I was not familiar with this particular type of lock/shackle.

Cheers, Steve

Hi all,

I just got back from Toronto where my wife and I had to take our daughter to Sick Children's Hospital for tests regarding a painful medical condition she has had for the past 1 1/2 years.

It took us over 8 months to even get in to be seen by a team of specialists.

Anyway, there are more tests in store for Shaina and hopefully in the long run they will be able to help her with this problem.

On our way back from Toronto today I stopped in to see a buddy of mine who I have known for over 25 years and who, by and large, is a collector or U.S. Civil War items.

In the course of his collecting he often finds me many rare restraints.

This time I came away with a number of unusual restraints and rare padlocks and one of the "cuffs"? I snagged was the pair pictured.

They are basically seized or rusted closed and aside from a cursory spray of WD40 I have not worked on them in any serious manner yet.

Both locks, or shackles, have a swinging brass keyhole cover that has a federal U.S. eagle etched into it and a patent date of 1870.







Anyway, I am offering these for sale and any serious parties interested in them may contact me at [email protected]

Cheers, Steve Santini

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Through The Padlock Collector volume 5 and 6 and cannot find this device under any railroad locks illustrated there.

Not to say it is not a railroad lock, but it does not show up in these comprehensive volumes.

Cheers, Steve

Hi all,

I just got back from Toronto where my wife and I had to take our daughter to Sick Children's Hospital for tests regarding a painful medical condition she has had for the past 1 1/2 years.

It took us over 8 months to even get in to be seen by a team of specialists.

Anyway, there are more tests in store for Shaina and hopefully in the long run they will be able to help her with this problem.

On our way back from Toronto today I stopped in to see a buddy of mine who I have known for over 25 years and who, by and large, is a collector or U.S. Civil War items.

In the course of his collecting he often finds me many rare restraints.

This time I came away with a number of unusual restraints and rare padlocks and one of the "cuffs"? I snagged was the pair pictured.

They are basically seized or rusted closed and aside from a cursory spray of WD40 I have not worked on them in any serious manner yet.

Both locks, or shackles, have a swinging brass keyhole cover that has a federal U.S. eagle etched into it and a patent date of 1870.







Anyway, I am offering these for sale and any serious parties interested in them may contact me at [email protected]

Cheers, Steve Santini

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Steve,

Is there a patent number on the brass cover?

Ron

Hi all,

I just got back from Toronto where my wife and I had to take our daughter to Sick Children's Hospital for tests regarding a painful medical condition she has had for the past 1 1/2 years.

It took us over 8 months to even get in to be seen by a team of specialists.

Anyway, there are more tests in store for Shaina and hopefully in the long run they will be able to help her with this problem.

On our way back from Toronto today I stopped in to see a buddy of mine who I have known for over 25 years and who, by and large, is a collector or U.S. Civil War items.

In the course of his collecting he often finds me many rare restraints.

This time I came away with a number of unusual restraints and rare padlocks and one of the "cuffs"? I snagged was the pair pictured.

They are basically seized or rusted closed and aside from a cursory spray of WD40 I have not worked on them in any serious manner yet.

Both locks, or shackles, have a swinging brass keyhole cover that has a federal U.S. eagle etched into it and a patent date of 1870.







Anyway, I am offering these for sale and any serious parties interested in them may contact me at [email protected]

Cheers, Steve Santini

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Hi Steve, yes these are railway padlock/seals, Joe Tanner used to seal them with question marks next to the pictures. I think it was ALCA that published the patent and I will check as I did copy it myself once.

Ian McColl

Hi all,

I just got back from Toronto where my wife and I had to take our daughter to Sick Children's Hospital for tests regarding a painful medical condition she has had for the past 1 1/2 years.

It took us over 8 months to even get in to be seen by a team of specialists.

Anyway, there are more tests in store for Shaina and hopefully in the long run they will be able to help her with this problem.

On our way back from Toronto today I stopped in to see a buddy of mine who I have known for over 25 years and who, by and large, is a collector or U.S. Civil War items.

In the course of his collecting he often finds me many rare restraints.

This time I came away with a number of unusual restraints and rare padlocks and one of the "cuffs"? I snagged was the pair pictured.

They are basically seized or rusted closed and aside from a cursory spray of WD40 I have not worked on them in any serious manner yet.

Both locks, or shackles, have a swinging brass keyhole cover that has a federal U.S. eagle etched into it and a patent date of 1870.







Anyway, I am offering these for sale and any serious parties interested in them may contact me at [email protected]

Cheers, Steve Santini

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Mystery solved!

Thanks to you both for your help.

No, there is no patent number on either brass cover.

Cheers, Steve

Hi all,

I just got back from Toronto where my wife and I had to take our daughter to Sick Children's Hospital for tests regarding a painful medical condition she has had for the past 1 1/2 years.

It took us over 8 months to even get in to be seen by a team of specialists.

Anyway, there are more tests in store for Shaina and hopefully in the long run they will be able to help her with this problem.

On our way back from Toronto today I stopped in to see a buddy of mine who I have known for over 25 years and who, by and large, is a collector or U.S. Civil War items.

In the course of his collecting he often finds me many rare restraints.

This time I came away with a number of unusual restraints and rare padlocks and one of the "cuffs"? I snagged was the pair pictured.

They are basically seized or rusted closed and aside from a cursory spray of WD40 I have not worked on them in any serious manner yet.

Both locks, or shackles, have a swinging brass keyhole cover that has a federal U.S. eagle etched into it and a patent date of 1870.







Anyway, I am offering these for sale and any serious parties interested in them may contact me at [email protected]

Cheers, Steve Santini

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There is a patent #569387 issued to Nathan Pond on Oct 13, 1896 titled Railroad Seal Padlock. It is similar in shape to yours but the sealing method is much simpler. In the text he call it an improvement in seal locks.

I did a search for all of January 1870, the only part of the date I could see on your cover and did not find any patent listing for the one you have Steve. Maybe it could be found using another key word for the search.

There was a set like yours on eBay about a year ago and what I remember some guy bought several and connected the chains together in pairs to make handcuffs as you have. Someone always seems to come up with a new twist.

Ron

Hi all,

I just got back from Toronto where my wife and I had to take our daughter to Sick Children's Hospital for tests regarding a painful medical condition she has had for the past 1 1/2 years.

It took us over 8 months to even get in to be seen by a team of specialists.

Anyway, there are more tests in store for Shaina and hopefully in the long run they will be able to help her with this problem.

On our way back from Toronto today I stopped in to see a buddy of mine who I have known for over 25 years and who, by and large, is a collector or U.S. Civil War items.

In the course of his collecting he often finds me many rare restraints.

This time I came away with a number of unusual restraints and rare padlocks and one of the "cuffs"? I snagged was the pair pictured.

They are basically seized or rusted closed and aside from a cursory spray of WD40 I have not worked on them in any serious manner yet.

Both locks, or shackles, have a swinging brass keyhole cover that has a federal U.S. eagle etched into it and a patent date of 1870.







Anyway, I am offering these for sale and any serious parties interested in them may contact me at [email protected]

Cheers, Steve Santini

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hi steve, sorry to hear your daughter is unwell, hope things workout ok for her....bob.

Hi all,

I just got back from Toronto where my wife and I had to take our daughter to Sick Children's Hospital for tests regarding a painful medical condition she has had for the past 1 1/2 years.

It took us over 8 months to even get in to be seen by a team of specialists.

Anyway, there are more tests in store for Shaina and hopefully in the long run they will be able to help her with this problem.

On our way back from Toronto today I stopped in to see a buddy of mine who I have known for over 25 years and who, by and large, is a collector or U.S. Civil War items.

In the course of his collecting he often finds me many rare restraints.

This time I came away with a number of unusual restraints and rare padlocks and one of the "cuffs"? I snagged was the pair pictured.

They are basically seized or rusted closed and aside from a cursory spray of WD40 I have not worked on them in any serious manner yet.

Both locks, or shackles, have a swinging brass keyhole cover that has a federal U.S. eagle etched into it and a patent date of 1870.







Anyway, I am offering these for sale and any serious parties interested in them may contact me at [email protected]

Cheers, Steve Santini

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Ron for the additional info you have provided and Bob for your well wishes about my daughter.

Cheers, Steve

Hi all,

I just got back from Toronto where my wife and I had to take our daughter to Sick Children's Hospital for tests regarding a painful medical condition she has had for the past 1 1/2 years.

It took us over 8 months to even get in to be seen by a team of specialists.

Anyway, there are more tests in store for Shaina and hopefully in the long run they will be able to help her with this problem.

On our way back from Toronto today I stopped in to see a buddy of mine who I have known for over 25 years and who, by and large, is a collector or U.S. Civil War items.

In the course of his collecting he often finds me many rare restraints.

This time I came away with a number of unusual restraints and rare padlocks and one of the "cuffs"? I snagged was the pair pictured.

They are basically seized or rusted closed and aside from a cursory spray of WD40 I have not worked on them in any serious manner yet.

Both locks, or shackles, have a swinging brass keyhole cover that has a federal U.S. eagle etched into it and a patent date of 1870.







Anyway, I am offering these for sale and any serious parties interested in them may contact me at [email protected]

Cheers, Steve Santini

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someone out there has a very nice set that i use to have, so maybe they will puts some photos up..... to bad san did not show a photo of the backside of them...... as i remember, there is a cly tube that houses a steel ball that sits on a spring...... once you slide the bronze cover over tp reveal the inside -- then you push down on the ball to release the shackle...... there is NO patent date on it, just the year date....... joe

Hi all,

I just got back from Toronto where my wife and I had to take our daughter to Sick Children's Hospital for tests regarding a painful medical condition she has had for the past 1 1/2 years.

It took us over 8 months to even get in to be seen by a team of specialists.

Anyway, there are more tests in store for Shaina and hopefully in the long run they will be able to help her with this problem.

On our way back from Toronto today I stopped in to see a buddy of mine who I have known for over 25 years and who, by and large, is a collector or U.S. Civil War items.

In the course of his collecting he often finds me many rare restraints.

This time I came away with a number of unusual restraints and rare padlocks and one of the "cuffs"? I snagged was the pair pictured.

They are basically seized or rusted closed and aside from a cursory spray of WD40 I have not worked on them in any serious manner yet.

Both locks, or shackles, have a swinging brass keyhole cover that has a federal U.S. eagle etched into it and a patent date of 1870.







Anyway, I am offering these for sale and any serious parties interested in them may contact me at [email protected]

Cheers, Steve Santini

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0320906448

Hi all,

I just got back from Toronto where my wife and I had to take our daughter to Sick Children's Hospital for tests regarding a painful medical condition she has had for the past 1 1/2 years.

It took us over 8 months to even get in to be seen by a team of specialists.

Anyway, there are more tests in store for Shaina and hopefully in the long run they will be able to help her with this problem.

On our way back from Toronto today I stopped in to see a buddy of mine who I have known for over 25 years and who, by and large, is a collector or U.S. Civil War items.

In the course of his collecting he often finds me many rare restraints.

This time I came away with a number of unusual restraints and rare padlocks and one of the "cuffs"? I snagged was the pair pictured.

They are basically seized or rusted closed and aside from a cursory spray of WD40 I have not worked on them in any serious manner yet.

Both locks, or shackles, have a swinging brass keyhole cover that has a federal U.S. eagle etched into it and a patent date of 1870.







Anyway, I am offering these for sale and any serious parties interested in them may contact me at [email protected]

Cheers, Steve Santini

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This seems to be the same set I had a while back.

After I found out they were seal locks I returned them to the original owner in exchange for something else.

Obviously, he sold them to someone in N.Y.

The migration pattern of antique iron for all to see! LOL

Steve

Hi all,

I just got back from Toronto where my wife and I had to take our daughter to Sick Children's Hospital for tests regarding a painful medical condition she has had for the past 1 1/2 years.

It took us over 8 months to even get in to be seen by a team of specialists.

Anyway, there are more tests in store for Shaina and hopefully in the long run they will be able to help her with this problem.

On our way back from Toronto today I stopped in to see a buddy of mine who I have known for over 25 years and who, by and large, is a collector or U.S. Civil War items.

In the course of his collecting he often finds me many rare restraints.

This time I came away with a number of unusual restraints and rare padlocks and one of the "cuffs"? I snagged was the pair pictured.

They are basically seized or rusted closed and aside from a cursory spray of WD40 I have not worked on them in any serious manner yet.

Both locks, or shackles, have a swinging brass keyhole cover that has a federal U.S. eagle etched into it and a patent date of 1870.







Anyway, I am offering these for sale and any serious parties interested in them may contact me at [email protected]

Cheers, Steve Santini

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I passed the information to the new seller advising him what these are. His reply was that the information was interesting, however he did not post the information on the listing the last time I looked.

Ron

Hi all,

I just got back from Toronto where my wife and I had to take our daughter to Sick Children's Hospital for tests regarding a painful medical condition she has had for the past 1 1/2 years.

It took us over 8 months to even get in to be seen by a team of specialists.

Anyway, there are more tests in store for Shaina and hopefully in the long run they will be able to help her with this problem.

On our way back from Toronto today I stopped in to see a buddy of mine who I have known for over 25 years and who, by and large, is a collector or U.S. Civil War items.

In the course of his collecting he often finds me many rare restraints.

This time I came away with a number of unusual restraints and rare padlocks and one of the "cuffs"? I snagged was the pair pictured.

They are basically seized or rusted closed and aside from a cursory spray of WD40 I have not worked on them in any serious manner yet.

Both locks, or shackles, have a swinging brass keyhole cover that has a federal U.S. eagle etched into it and a patent date of 1870.







Anyway, I am offering these for sale and any serious parties interested in them may contact me at [email protected]

Cheers, Steve Santini

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With all of the antique padlock collectors out there this guy may have done even better if he had split these up and sold them individually for what they really are.

Steve

Hi all,

I just got back from Toronto where my wife and I had to take our daughter to Sick Children's Hospital for tests regarding a painful medical condition she has had for the past 1 1/2 years.

It took us over 8 months to even get in to be seen by a team of specialists.

Anyway, there are more tests in store for Shaina and hopefully in the long run they will be able to help her with this problem.

On our way back from Toronto today I stopped in to see a buddy of mine who I have known for over 25 years and who, by and large, is a collector or U.S. Civil War items.

In the course of his collecting he often finds me many rare restraints.

This time I came away with a number of unusual restraints and rare padlocks and one of the "cuffs"? I snagged was the pair pictured.

They are basically seized or rusted closed and aside from a cursory spray of WD40 I have not worked on them in any serious manner yet.

Both locks, or shackles, have a swinging brass keyhole cover that has a federal U.S. eagle etched into it and a patent date of 1870.







Anyway, I am offering these for sale and any serious parties interested in them may contact me at [email protected]

Cheers, Steve Santini

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I too contacted the seller and referred him to this thread with no response. If he does update the auction to reflect the new info, then this is good. If he doesn't, then he is another fill in the blank seller.