most unusual ball and chain for sale

Here is another thing I have for sale that I picked up while visiting my Civil War collector buddy the other day.

There are a few things that are unique about this restraint. Firstly, the ball is made out of solid brass which was poured around the iron chain anchor.

And secondly, the ball bears the hand stamp of C.S.S. ATLANTA and the date 1863.

C.S.S. Atlanta was a Conferderate iron clad during the U.S. Cilvil War and was captured by the north in 1863.

The oral history that my collector was given when he bought this ball and chain is that brass fittings from the engine parts of the iron clad were melted down to make the ball of this restraint.

This makes sense as cannonballs were never made of brass so this ball did not begin it's life as a cannonball but was instead formed and poured to be a ball and chain from metal taken off the Atlanta.

I am fairly certain this was never used on the ship itself becuase there would be very little need for a ball and chain restraint on an iron clad.

Anyway, here are some pics and if anyone is interested in buying this please contact me at bookings@thedarkmaster.com

Here is another thing I have for sale that I picked up while visiting my Civil War collector buddy the other day.

There are a few things that are unique about this restraint. Firstly, the ball is made out of solid brass which was poured around the iron chain anchor.

And secondly, the ball bears the hand stamp of C.S.S. ATLANTA and the date 1863.

C.S.S. Atlanta was a Conferderate iron clad during the U.S. Cilvil War and was captured by the north in 1863.

The oral history that my collector was given when he bought this ball and chain is that brass fittings from the engine parts of the iron clad were melted down to make the ball of this restraint.

This makes sense as cannonballs were never made of brass so this ball did not begin it's life as a cannonball but was instead formed and poured to be a ball and chain from metal taken off the Atlanta.

I am fairly certain this was never used on the ship itself becuase there would be very little need for a ball and chain restraint on an iron clad.

Anyway, here are some pics and if anyone is interested in buying this please contact me at bookings@thedarkmaster.com

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Too small.

The ones you provided a link to are in fact camel hobbles and very large at that.

Here is another thing I have for sale that I picked up while visiting my Civil War collector buddy the other day.

There are a few things that are unique about this restraint. Firstly, the ball is made out of solid brass which was poured around the iron chain anchor.

And secondly, the ball bears the hand stamp of C.S.S. ATLANTA and the date 1863.

C.S.S. Atlanta was a Conferderate iron clad during the U.S. Cilvil War and was captured by the north in 1863.

The oral history that my collector was given when he bought this ball and chain is that brass fittings from the engine parts of the iron clad were melted down to make the ball of this restraint.

This makes sense as cannonballs were never made of brass so this ball did not begin it's life as a cannonball but was instead formed and poured to be a ball and chain from metal taken off the Atlanta.

I am fairly certain this was never used on the ship itself becuase there would be very little need for a ball and chain restraint on an iron clad.

Anyway, here are some pics and if anyone is interested in buying this please contact me at bookings@thedarkmaster.com

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Looks homemade like railroad piece in the other thread.

Here is another thing I have for sale that I picked up while visiting my Civil War collector buddy the other day.

There are a few things that are unique about this restraint. Firstly, the ball is made out of solid brass which was poured around the iron chain anchor.

And secondly, the ball bears the hand stamp of C.S.S. ATLANTA and the date 1863.

C.S.S. Atlanta was a Conferderate iron clad during the U.S. Cilvil War and was captured by the north in 1863.

The oral history that my collector was given when he bought this ball and chain is that brass fittings from the engine parts of the iron clad were melted down to make the ball of this restraint.

This makes sense as cannonballs were never made of brass so this ball did not begin it's life as a cannonball but was instead formed and poured to be a ball and chain from metal taken off the Atlanta.

I am fairly certain this was never used on the ship itself becuase there would be very little need for a ball and chain restraint on an iron clad.

Anyway, here are some pics and if anyone is interested in buying this please contact me at bookings@thedarkmaster.com

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I've got the shop running overtime and just crankin em out here! LOL

BTW, animal hobbles are meant to keep the animal from walking.

Not a large brass ball with a very long chain.

Here is another thing I have for sale that I picked up while visiting my Civil War collector buddy the other day.

There are a few things that are unique about this restraint. Firstly, the ball is made out of solid brass which was poured around the iron chain anchor.

And secondly, the ball bears the hand stamp of C.S.S. ATLANTA and the date 1863.

C.S.S. Atlanta was a Conferderate iron clad during the U.S. Cilvil War and was captured by the north in 1863.

The oral history that my collector was given when he bought this ball and chain is that brass fittings from the engine parts of the iron clad were melted down to make the ball of this restraint.

This makes sense as cannonballs were never made of brass so this ball did not begin it's life as a cannonball but was instead formed and poured to be a ball and chain from metal taken off the Atlanta.

I am fairly certain this was never used on the ship itself becuase there would be very little need for a ball and chain restraint on an iron clad.

Anyway, here are some pics and if anyone is interested in buying this please contact me at bookings@thedarkmaster.com

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Probably cost a fortune to ship, but I do admire the lock.

Here is another thing I have for sale that I picked up while visiting my Civil War collector buddy the other day.

There are a few things that are unique about this restraint. Firstly, the ball is made out of solid brass which was poured around the iron chain anchor.

And secondly, the ball bears the hand stamp of C.S.S. ATLANTA and the date 1863.

C.S.S. Atlanta was a Conferderate iron clad during the U.S. Cilvil War and was captured by the north in 1863.

The oral history that my collector was given when he bought this ball and chain is that brass fittings from the engine parts of the iron clad were melted down to make the ball of this restraint.

This makes sense as cannonballs were never made of brass so this ball did not begin it's life as a cannonball but was instead formed and poured to be a ball and chain from metal taken off the Atlanta.

I am fairly certain this was never used on the ship itself becuase there would be very little need for a ball and chain restraint on an iron clad.

Anyway, here are some pics and if anyone is interested in buying this please contact me at bookings@thedarkmaster.com

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The lock looks like an old railroad padlock, but its age is correct.
A brass ball seems like a waste of materials, but does anyone know of any other use for a cast brass ball?

James

Here is another thing I have for sale that I picked up while visiting my Civil War collector buddy the other day.

There are a few things that are unique about this restraint. Firstly, the ball is made out of solid brass which was poured around the iron chain anchor.

And secondly, the ball bears the hand stamp of C.S.S. ATLANTA and the date 1863.

C.S.S. Atlanta was a Conferderate iron clad during the U.S. Cilvil War and was captured by the north in 1863.

The oral history that my collector was given when he bought this ball and chain is that brass fittings from the engine parts of the iron clad were melted down to make the ball of this restraint.

This makes sense as cannonballs were never made of brass so this ball did not begin it's life as a cannonball but was instead formed and poured to be a ball and chain from metal taken off the Atlanta.

I am fairly certain this was never used on the ship itself becuase there would be very little need for a ball and chain restraint on an iron clad.

Anyway, here are some pics and if anyone is interested in buying this please contact me at bookings@thedarkmaster.com

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for Brass Monkey

Here is another thing I have for sale that I picked up while visiting my Civil War collector buddy the other day.

There are a few things that are unique about this restraint. Firstly, the ball is made out of solid brass which was poured around the iron chain anchor.

And secondly, the ball bears the hand stamp of C.S.S. ATLANTA and the date 1863.

C.S.S. Atlanta was a Conferderate iron clad during the U.S. Cilvil War and was captured by the north in 1863.

The oral history that my collector was given when he bought this ball and chain is that brass fittings from the engine parts of the iron clad were melted down to make the ball of this restraint.

This makes sense as cannonballs were never made of brass so this ball did not begin it's life as a cannonball but was instead formed and poured to be a ball and chain from metal taken off the Atlanta.

I am fairly certain this was never used on the ship itself becuase there would be very little need for a ball and chain restraint on an iron clad.

Anyway, here are some pics and if anyone is interested in buying this please contact me at bookings@thedarkmaster.com

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This item is now sold and is no longer available.

The lock is an Elias Rickards and is stamped E.R.

Left hand thread key.

Steve Santini

Here is another thing I have for sale that I picked up while visiting my Civil War collector buddy the other day.

There are a few things that are unique about this restraint. Firstly, the ball is made out of solid brass which was poured around the iron chain anchor.

And secondly, the ball bears the hand stamp of C.S.S. ATLANTA and the date 1863.

C.S.S. Atlanta was a Conferderate iron clad during the U.S. Cilvil War and was captured by the north in 1863.

The oral history that my collector was given when he bought this ball and chain is that brass fittings from the engine parts of the iron clad were melted down to make the ball of this restraint.

This makes sense as cannonballs were never made of brass so this ball did not begin it's life as a cannonball but was instead formed and poured to be a ball and chain from metal taken off the Atlanta.

I am fairly certain this was never used on the ship itself becuase there would be very little need for a ball and chain restraint on an iron clad.

Anyway, here are some pics and if anyone is interested in buying this please contact me at bookings@thedarkmaster.com

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This item is now sold and is no longer available.

The lock is an Elias Rickards and is stamped E.R.

Left hand thread key.

Steve Santini

Here is another thing I have for sale that I picked up while visiting my Civil War collector buddy the other day.

There are a few things that are unique about this restraint. Firstly, the ball is made out of solid brass which was poured around the iron chain anchor.

And secondly, the ball bears the hand stamp of C.S.S. ATLANTA and the date 1863.

C.S.S. Atlanta was a Conferderate iron clad during the U.S. Cilvil War and was captured by the north in 1863.

The oral history that my collector was given when he bought this ball and chain is that brass fittings from the engine parts of the iron clad were melted down to make the ball of this restraint.

This makes sense as cannonballs were never made of brass so this ball did not begin it's life as a cannonball but was instead formed and poured to be a ball and chain from metal taken off the Atlanta.

I am fairly certain this was never used on the ship itself becuase there would be very little need for a ball and chain restraint on an iron clad.

Anyway, here are some pics and if anyone is interested in buying this please contact me at bookings@thedarkmaster.com

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The Elias Richards padlocks were designed and sold as railroad padlocks. They are credited with making the first railroad padlocks in this country for the B&O railroad. But of course you could use the locks for anything.

Joe

Here is another thing I have for sale that I picked up while visiting my Civil War collector buddy the other day.

There are a few things that are unique about this restraint. Firstly, the ball is made out of solid brass which was poured around the iron chain anchor.

And secondly, the ball bears the hand stamp of C.S.S. ATLANTA and the date 1863.

C.S.S. Atlanta was a Conferderate iron clad during the U.S. Cilvil War and was captured by the north in 1863.

The oral history that my collector was given when he bought this ball and chain is that brass fittings from the engine parts of the iron clad were melted down to make the ball of this restraint.

This makes sense as cannonballs were never made of brass so this ball did not begin it's life as a cannonball but was instead formed and poured to be a ball and chain from metal taken off the Atlanta.

I am fairly certain this was never used on the ship itself becuase there would be very little need for a ball and chain restraint on an iron clad.

Anyway, here are some pics and if anyone is interested in buying this please contact me at bookings@thedarkmaster.com

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The padlock doesn't necessarily go with the rest of the restraint. Padlocks are hardware; you buy whichever ones you like.

The chain doesn't quite look right to me. I can't tell from the pix, but the links are awfully short for hand forged chain. I They are shaped like modern electro-welded chain, but I can't see the weld.

I can think of no particular reason to use brass for the casting, but it may have been a rush job and someone used what was on hand. The eyebolt in the ball looks authentic.

The lettering seems very dubious to me. I don't know what styles of lettering stamps were used during the 1860s, but the stamped lettering looks modern to me. It is also crappily applied. Even I, who am an admitted klutz with lettering stamps, could do better.

The serial number is five digits. That's a helluva lotta balls and chain. Who would bother to serialize balls and chain, anyway? They didn't routinely serialize firearms!

The patina is not right. At a minimum, some mope Brassoed the hell out of it.

I'm not calling it a fake, but the pieces don't add up for me.

Here is another thing I have for sale that I picked up while visiting my Civil War collector buddy the other day.

There are a few things that are unique about this restraint. Firstly, the ball is made out of solid brass which was poured around the iron chain anchor.

And secondly, the ball bears the hand stamp of C.S.S. ATLANTA and the date 1863.

C.S.S. Atlanta was a Conferderate iron clad during the U.S. Cilvil War and was captured by the north in 1863.

The oral history that my collector was given when he bought this ball and chain is that brass fittings from the engine parts of the iron clad were melted down to make the ball of this restraint.

This makes sense as cannonballs were never made of brass so this ball did not begin it's life as a cannonball but was instead formed and poured to be a ball and chain from metal taken off the Atlanta.

I am fairly certain this was never used on the ship itself becuase there would be very little need for a ball and chain restraint on an iron clad.

Anyway, here are some pics and if anyone is interested in buying this please contact me at bookings@thedarkmaster.com

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Making strange things from recovered nautical brass happens all the time.
Check out eBay 160320728448

Here is another thing I have for sale that I picked up while visiting my Civil War collector buddy the other day.

There are a few things that are unique about this restraint. Firstly, the ball is made out of solid brass which was poured around the iron chain anchor.

And secondly, the ball bears the hand stamp of C.S.S. ATLANTA and the date 1863.

C.S.S. Atlanta was a Conferderate iron clad during the U.S. Cilvil War and was captured by the north in 1863.

The oral history that my collector was given when he bought this ball and chain is that brass fittings from the engine parts of the iron clad were melted down to make the ball of this restraint.

This makes sense as cannonballs were never made of brass so this ball did not begin it's life as a cannonball but was instead formed and poured to be a ball and chain from metal taken off the Atlanta.

I am fairly certain this was never used on the ship itself becuase there would be very little need for a ball and chain restraint on an iron clad.

Anyway, here are some pics and if anyone is interested in buying this please contact me at bookings@thedarkmaster.com

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They are letters.

C.S.S. Atlanta.

1863.

Here is another thing I have for sale that I picked up while visiting my Civil War collector buddy the other day.

There are a few things that are unique about this restraint. Firstly, the ball is made out of solid brass which was poured around the iron chain anchor.

And secondly, the ball bears the hand stamp of C.S.S. ATLANTA and the date 1863.

C.S.S. Atlanta was a Conferderate iron clad during the U.S. Cilvil War and was captured by the north in 1863.

The oral history that my collector was given when he bought this ball and chain is that brass fittings from the engine parts of the iron clad were melted down to make the ball of this restraint.

This makes sense as cannonballs were never made of brass so this ball did not begin it's life as a cannonball but was instead formed and poured to be a ball and chain from metal taken off the Atlanta.

I am fairly certain this was never used on the ship itself becuase there would be very little need for a ball and chain restraint on an iron clad.

Anyway, here are some pics and if anyone is interested in buying this please contact me at bookings@thedarkmaster.com

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The letters and date look modern to me also.

1800's period letter and number stamps are very hard to find.

Here is another thing I have for sale that I picked up while visiting my Civil War collector buddy the other day.

There are a few things that are unique about this restraint. Firstly, the ball is made out of solid brass which was poured around the iron chain anchor.

And secondly, the ball bears the hand stamp of C.S.S. ATLANTA and the date 1863.

C.S.S. Atlanta was a Conferderate iron clad during the U.S. Cilvil War and was captured by the north in 1863.

The oral history that my collector was given when he bought this ball and chain is that brass fittings from the engine parts of the iron clad were melted down to make the ball of this restraint.

This makes sense as cannonballs were never made of brass so this ball did not begin it's life as a cannonball but was instead formed and poured to be a ball and chain from metal taken off the Atlanta.

I am fairly certain this was never used on the ship itself becuase there would be very little need for a ball and chain restraint on an iron clad.

Anyway, here are some pics and if anyone is interested in buying this please contact me at bookings@thedarkmaster.com

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Steve, it looks like some of the guys here don't believe that this ball and chain and shackling device are authentic. I hope it didn't get sold to some sucker that doesn't know squat about old restraints, considering how many so-called "experts" are doubting it. =)

Cheers, Mike D~C/

Here is another thing I have for sale that I picked up while visiting my Civil War collector buddy the other day.

There are a few things that are unique about this restraint. Firstly, the ball is made out of solid brass which was poured around the iron chain anchor.

And secondly, the ball bears the hand stamp of C.S.S. ATLANTA and the date 1863.

C.S.S. Atlanta was a Conferderate iron clad during the U.S. Cilvil War and was captured by the north in 1863.

The oral history that my collector was given when he bought this ball and chain is that brass fittings from the engine parts of the iron clad were melted down to make the ball of this restraint.

This makes sense as cannonballs were never made of brass so this ball did not begin it's life as a cannonball but was instead formed and poured to be a ball and chain from metal taken off the Atlanta.

I am fairly certain this was never used on the ship itself becuase there would be very little need for a ball and chain restraint on an iron clad.

Anyway, here are some pics and if anyone is interested in buying this please contact me at bookings@thedarkmaster.com

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Thanks for nothing for bringing it back to the top.

Here is another thing I have for sale that I picked up while visiting my Civil War collector buddy the other day.

There are a few things that are unique about this restraint. Firstly, the ball is made out of solid brass which was poured around the iron chain anchor.

And secondly, the ball bears the hand stamp of C.S.S. ATLANTA and the date 1863.

C.S.S. Atlanta was a Conferderate iron clad during the U.S. Cilvil War and was captured by the north in 1863.

The oral history that my collector was given when he bought this ball and chain is that brass fittings from the engine parts of the iron clad were melted down to make the ball of this restraint.

This makes sense as cannonballs were never made of brass so this ball did not begin it's life as a cannonball but was instead formed and poured to be a ball and chain from metal taken off the Atlanta.

I am fairly certain this was never used on the ship itself becuase there would be very little need for a ball and chain restraint on an iron clad.

Anyway, here are some pics and if anyone is interested in buying this please contact me at bookings@thedarkmaster.com

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The ER lock and key look authentic but I have doubts about the ball and chain...

Here is another thing I have for sale that I picked up while visiting my Civil War collector buddy the other day.

There are a few things that are unique about this restraint. Firstly, the ball is made out of solid brass which was poured around the iron chain anchor.

And secondly, the ball bears the hand stamp of C.S.S. ATLANTA and the date 1863.

C.S.S. Atlanta was a Conferderate iron clad during the U.S. Cilvil War and was captured by the north in 1863.

The oral history that my collector was given when he bought this ball and chain is that brass fittings from the engine parts of the iron clad were melted down to make the ball of this restraint.

This makes sense as cannonballs were never made of brass so this ball did not begin it's life as a cannonball but was instead formed and poured to be a ball and chain from metal taken off the Atlanta.

I am fairly certain this was never used on the ship itself becuase there would be very little need for a ball and chain restraint on an iron clad.

Anyway, here are some pics and if anyone is interested in buying this please contact me at bookings@thedarkmaster.com

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You welcome. I have a lot of time on my hands this week and thought I would catch up on my posting here on the forum. I wanted to respond earlier, but didn't have the time. Thanks again for your interest!

Mike D~C/

Here is another thing I have for sale that I picked up while visiting my Civil War collector buddy the other day.

There are a few things that are unique about this restraint. Firstly, the ball is made out of solid brass which was poured around the iron chain anchor.

And secondly, the ball bears the hand stamp of C.S.S. ATLANTA and the date 1863.

C.S.S. Atlanta was a Conferderate iron clad during the U.S. Cilvil War and was captured by the north in 1863.

The oral history that my collector was given when he bought this ball and chain is that brass fittings from the engine parts of the iron clad were melted down to make the ball of this restraint.

This makes sense as cannonballs were never made of brass so this ball did not begin it's life as a cannonball but was instead formed and poured to be a ball and chain from metal taken off the Atlanta.

I am fairly certain this was never used on the ship itself becuase there would be very little need for a ball and chain restraint on an iron clad.

Anyway, here are some pics and if anyone is interested in buying this please contact me at bookings@thedarkmaster.com

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"The ER lock looks authentic"

It's probably not authentic.......I think that Steve makes these ER locks in his workshop in his spare time. I think he casts these brass balls in his shop too, but I may be wrong. I really liked his Hiatt bar cuffs that were up here on the forum some months ago.......they looked real, but I think he made them in his shop from scratch. Who knows what goes on up there in Santini's secret workshop?!! Ian, eat your heart out!!!

Cheers, Mike D~C/

Here is another thing I have for sale that I picked up while visiting my Civil War collector buddy the other day.

There are a few things that are unique about this restraint. Firstly, the ball is made out of solid brass which was poured around the iron chain anchor.

And secondly, the ball bears the hand stamp of C.S.S. ATLANTA and the date 1863.

C.S.S. Atlanta was a Conferderate iron clad during the U.S. Cilvil War and was captured by the north in 1863.

The oral history that my collector was given when he bought this ball and chain is that brass fittings from the engine parts of the iron clad were melted down to make the ball of this restraint.

This makes sense as cannonballs were never made of brass so this ball did not begin it's life as a cannonball but was instead formed and poured to be a ball and chain from metal taken off the Atlanta.

I am fairly certain this was never used on the ship itself becuase there would be very little need for a ball and chain restraint on an iron clad.

Anyway, here are some pics and if anyone is interested in buying this please contact me at bookings@thedarkmaster.com

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Amazing Mikeys manlove for Scamtini. Did he get his driver's license yet or are you still taking him around?

Here is another thing I have for sale that I picked up while visiting my Civil War collector buddy the other day.

There are a few things that are unique about this restraint. Firstly, the ball is made out of solid brass which was poured around the iron chain anchor.

And secondly, the ball bears the hand stamp of C.S.S. ATLANTA and the date 1863.

C.S.S. Atlanta was a Conferderate iron clad during the U.S. Cilvil War and was captured by the north in 1863.

The oral history that my collector was given when he bought this ball and chain is that brass fittings from the engine parts of the iron clad were melted down to make the ball of this restraint.

This makes sense as cannonballs were never made of brass so this ball did not begin it's life as a cannonball but was instead formed and poured to be a ball and chain from metal taken off the Atlanta.

I am fairly certain this was never used on the ship itself becuase there would be very little need for a ball and chain restraint on an iron clad.

Anyway, here are some pics and if anyone is interested in buying this please contact me at bookings@thedarkmaster.com

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Nothing changes??? You are so right!!!! All the homos are still posting "Anonymous". Thank you for carring on the tradition, fag! BTW, get some new material.....the scamtini thing and the driver's license bit were old back when Rick Silmser was using them. Grow up, chump.

Mike D~C/

Here is another thing I have for sale that I picked up while visiting my Civil War collector buddy the other day.

There are a few things that are unique about this restraint. Firstly, the ball is made out of solid brass which was poured around the iron chain anchor.

And secondly, the ball bears the hand stamp of C.S.S. ATLANTA and the date 1863.

C.S.S. Atlanta was a Conferderate iron clad during the U.S. Cilvil War and was captured by the north in 1863.

The oral history that my collector was given when he bought this ball and chain is that brass fittings from the engine parts of the iron clad were melted down to make the ball of this restraint.

This makes sense as cannonballs were never made of brass so this ball did not begin it's life as a cannonball but was instead formed and poured to be a ball and chain from metal taken off the Atlanta.

I am fairly certain this was never used on the ship itself becuase there would be very little need for a ball and chain restraint on an iron clad.

Anyway, here are some pics and if anyone is interested in buying this please contact me at bookings@thedarkmaster.com

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Are you saying that Steve has brass balls?

[WHACK] Owwwww!

Here is another thing I have for sale that I picked up while visiting my Civil War collector buddy the other day.

There are a few things that are unique about this restraint. Firstly, the ball is made out of solid brass which was poured around the iron chain anchor.

And secondly, the ball bears the hand stamp of C.S.S. ATLANTA and the date 1863.

C.S.S. Atlanta was a Conferderate iron clad during the U.S. Cilvil War and was captured by the north in 1863.

The oral history that my collector was given when he bought this ball and chain is that brass fittings from the engine parts of the iron clad were melted down to make the ball of this restraint.

This makes sense as cannonballs were never made of brass so this ball did not begin it's life as a cannonball but was instead formed and poured to be a ball and chain from metal taken off the Atlanta.

I am fairly certain this was never used on the ship itself becuase there would be very little need for a ball and chain restraint on an iron clad.

Anyway, here are some pics and if anyone is interested in buying this please contact me at bookings@thedarkmaster.com

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Well, he had at least one brass ball (as shown in the photos). I suspect there is at least one more due to the fact that I heard Steve has more "balls" than anyone in his field and balls = more than one ball where I come from. Wait, was that a joke or are you seriously asking??? I can never tell with you guys. So many comedians are out of work and you guys are trying to be funny!!! =)

Mike D~C/