Is this really rare????

Hi All,

This was thrown in with a purchase of another restraint. Alex Nichols has a photo of one in his book and captioned it as a "rare item in the Hiatt collection" - a lead chain that can be attached to a pair of cuffs with the split ring. So my question is are they really that rare? Anyone else have one or know more about it?

Thanks,
Joe

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Hi All,

This was thrown in with a purchase of another restraint. Alex Nichols has a photo of one in his book and captioned it as a "rare item in the Hiatt collection" - a lead chain that can be attached to a pair of cuffs with the split ring. So my question is are they really that rare? Anyone else have one or know more about it?

Thanks,
Joe

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well they could be NOW.... about 15 years ago, i had about 35 of them.... i gave them all to a friend of mine & he chopped them up & made various things out of them...... joe

Hi All,

This was thrown in with a purchase of another restraint. Alex Nichols has a photo of one in his book and captioned it as a "rare item in the Hiatt collection" - a lead chain that can be attached to a pair of cuffs with the split ring. So my question is are they really that rare? Anyone else have one or know more about it?

Thanks,
Joe

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I don't collect nippers or twisters but I do have one of these.



guessing they were made about the same time as Harvard leg irons.

Worth about the same too, IMO.

Hi All,

This was thrown in with a purchase of another restraint. Alex Nichols has a photo of one in his book and captioned it as a "rare item in the Hiatt collection" - a lead chain that can be attached to a pair of cuffs with the split ring. So my question is are they really that rare? Anyone else have one or know more about it?

Thanks,
Joe

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Hello,

Make that increasingly scarce.

It is French-made, one of a variety of nipper and lead chain designs using those links. The earlier lead chain rings were welded or soldered; they were not split chains.

It would be rarer to find in the Hiatt collection, as chain twisters and all that resembled them were illegal to manufacture in Britain and never were put into official use.

I find them, and the French chain nippers, amongst the most attractive. This is a good example of a restraint not having to be rare to be desirable.

Cheers,

Jack
http://www.editing.org.uk/tanis/collectibles.htm

Hi All,

This was thrown in with a purchase of another restraint. Alex Nichols has a photo of one in his book and captioned it as a "rare item in the Hiatt collection" - a lead chain that can be attached to a pair of cuffs with the split ring. So my question is are they really that rare? Anyone else have one or know more about it?

Thanks,
Joe

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If you want one...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ANTIQUE-Argentina-P ... 0317849267

Hi All,

This was thrown in with a purchase of another restraint. Alex Nichols has a photo of one in his book and captioned it as a "rare item in the Hiatt collection" - a lead chain that can be attached to a pair of cuffs with the split ring. So my question is are they really that rare? Anyone else have one or know more about it?

Thanks,
Joe

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Hello,

This eBay seller must have bought a container. He has been offering them regularly for, I believe, at least a decade now. He currently has two for sale. In past, they were about $5.00 less -- $19 or $20, if memory serves -- and were in near mint condition. The remaining stock, of which there still may be much, has considerable plating loss, rust or both. He is the only party in South America, Argentina or elsewhere, I ever have seen with these French lead chains for sale. He also offers handcuffs, and has had more than a fair share of Clejuso 12D, and other police equipment and regalia.

Cheers,

Jack
http://www.editing.org.uk/tanis/collectibles.htm

Hi All,

This was thrown in with a purchase of another restraint. Alex Nichols has a photo of one in his book and captioned it as a "rare item in the Hiatt collection" - a lead chain that can be attached to a pair of cuffs with the split ring. So my question is are they really that rare? Anyone else have one or know more about it?

Thanks,
Joe

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Thanks to all for the responses and especially to Dorson for help with the photo (not sure what I did wrong in loading it). So does anyone know if these are only of French origin, or were they made else where as well? The dealer on Ebay is selling them as Argentinian nippers but this link style seems to lend itself more to Europe (France, Belgium, Italy, etc.)than to the Americas. Anyone?? Anyone?? Bueller??

Joe G.

Hi All,

This was thrown in with a purchase of another restraint. Alex Nichols has a photo of one in his book and captioned it as a "rare item in the Hiatt collection" - a lead chain that can be attached to a pair of cuffs with the split ring. So my question is are they really that rare? Anyone else have one or know more about it?

Thanks,
Joe

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It was made, manufactured, produced, fabricated in France.

Hi All,

This was thrown in with a purchase of another restraint. Alex Nichols has a photo of one in his book and captioned it as a "rare item in the Hiatt collection" - a lead chain that can be attached to a pair of cuffs with the split ring. So my question is are they really that rare? Anyone else have one or know more about it?

Thanks,
Joe

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Another variation,



http://cgi.ebay.com/HANDCUFFS-ROYAL-POL ... 0208674537

Hi All,

This was thrown in with a purchase of another restraint. Alex Nichols has a photo of one in his book and captioned it as a "rare item in the Hiatt collection" - a lead chain that can be attached to a pair of cuffs with the split ring. So my question is are they really that rare? Anyone else have one or know more about it?

Thanks,
Joe

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Hello,

These are actual carabinieri, Italian police, handcuffs, not a lead chain or a nipper. A padlock secures them closed.

Cuffsland has and sells them, without the padlock, at http://cuffsland.com/collectors.html#CARAB for Euro 17.90.



Cheers,

Jack
http://www.editing.org.uk/tanis/collectibles.htm

Hi All,

This was thrown in with a purchase of another restraint. Alex Nichols has a photo of one in his book and captioned it as a "rare item in the Hiatt collection" - a lead chain that can be attached to a pair of cuffs with the split ring. So my question is are they really that rare? Anyone else have one or know more about it?

Thanks,
Joe

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Very good of you to provide both an alternative and also a link to cuffsland de.

Appreciated.

Hi All,

This was thrown in with a purchase of another restraint. Alex Nichols has a photo of one in his book and captioned it as a "rare item in the Hiatt collection" - a lead chain that can be attached to a pair of cuffs with the split ring. So my question is are they really that rare? Anyone else have one or know more about it?

Thanks,
Joe

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Jack, thanks for posting the pic and link for the Carabinieri. I have one in my collection but without the original bi-wing lock and key. If anyone has an original lock and key they wouldn't mind parting with, please email me.

Joe G.