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Keys for S&W Model 94 "R prefix to SN"

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eRestraint 16 May 2010
#1

Greetings,

We have a set of older, rasised piviot rivet, Smith and Wesson Model 94 handcuffs.  We tried a "N" stamped key and it did not work.

There is no letter stamped on the box, but there is an "R" visiable above and to the left of the serial number.  Does anyone know what key would work with these cuffs.

On another note the serial number has been scratched off.  Any ideas why someone would deface the serial number on an old set of cuffs?  The number "213" is cut into the lock case, poorly spaced, near the groove that was the serial number.

I can put up photos if anyone cares enough.

Orchid

 
Barney 16 May 2010
#2
The R is for a restricted keyway. All of my 94's are standard so i don't know just how different the cuts are in the keys. I think you can order the keys from cannonsgreatescapes.
eRestraint 17 May 2010
#3
Greetings,

We have a set of older, rasised piviot rivet, Smith and Wesson Model 94 handcuffs.  We tried a "N" stamped key and it did not work.

There is no letter stamped on the box, but there is an "R" visiable above and to the left of the serial number.  Does anyone know what key would work with these cuffs.

On another note the serial number has been scratched off.  Any ideas why someone would deface the serial number on an old set of cuffs?  The number "213" is cut into the lock case, poorly spaced, near the groove that was the serial number.

I can put up photos if anyone cares enough.

Orchid

 
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Thanks Ian for emailing the letter code sheet.  Sure enough the R stamped on the cuffs matched the pattern on your chart.  Nicely done, you are a wizard!

 

Orchid

 

 
atlanta*casting 17 May 2010
#4
Greetings,

We have a set of older, rasised piviot rivet, Smith and Wesson Model 94 handcuffs.  We tried a "N" stamped key and it did not work.

There is no letter stamped on the box, but there is an "R" visiable above and to the left of the serial number.  Does anyone know what key would work with these cuffs.

On another note the serial number has been scratched off.  Any ideas why someone would deface the serial number on an old set of cuffs?  The number "213" is cut into the lock case, poorly spaced, near the groove that was the serial number.

I can put up photos if anyone cares enough.

Orchid

 
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OK, Need help.


N-Index XOXO

R-Index XOXX

According to the charts from Ian and James, Could one use an N key and mill another .035 deep X notch in the O position?

I only have an N set and extra N keys that I purchased from Orchid and don't have any other 94 models to try this out on yet.

Thanks to all who keep the forum focused on the positive.

Past 94 key chart links:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/261154/m ... pac.com.au

http://www.network54.com/Forum/261154/m ... pac.com.au
atlanta*casting 17 May 2010
#5
Greetings,

We have a set of older, rasised piviot rivet, Smith and Wesson Model 94 handcuffs.  We tried a "N" stamped key and it did not work.

There is no letter stamped on the box, but there is an "R" visiable above and to the left of the serial number.  Does anyone know what key would work with these cuffs.

On another note the serial number has been scratched off.  Any ideas why someone would deface the serial number on an old set of cuffs?  The number "213" is cut into the lock case, poorly spaced, near the groove that was the serial number.

I can put up photos if anyone cares enough.

Orchid

 
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N-Index XOXO

1-X 2-O 3-X 4-O

R-Index XOXX

1-X 2-O 3-X 4-X

I was talking about position 4 according to the chart by Ian.

Cutting the O down and making it into an X.

Thanks for help.
Orchid Strand 17 May 2010
#6
Greetings,

We have a set of older, rasised piviot rivet, Smith and Wesson Model 94 handcuffs.  We tried a "N" stamped key and it did not work.

There is no letter stamped on the box, but there is an "R" visiable above and to the left of the serial number.  Does anyone know what key would work with these cuffs.

On another note the serial number has been scratched off.  Any ideas why someone would deface the serial number on an old set of cuffs?  The number "213" is cut into the lock case, poorly spaced, near the groove that was the serial number.

I can put up photos if anyone cares enough.

Orchid

 
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I am not sure if this is what you are asking, but... I used a swiss file to cut a third notch into an "N" key (of which I still have a few of) and got it to work as an "R" key. It does not seem to require a great deal of percision.

Orchid
Anonymous 17 May 2010
#7
Greetings,

We have a set of older, rasised piviot rivet, Smith and Wesson Model 94 handcuffs.  We tried a "N" stamped key and it did not work.

There is no letter stamped on the box, but there is an "R" visiable above and to the left of the serial number.  Does anyone know what key would work with these cuffs.

On another note the serial number has been scratched off.  Any ideas why someone would deface the serial number on an old set of cuffs?  The number "213" is cut into the lock case, poorly spaced, near the groove that was the serial number.

I can put up photos if anyone cares enough.

Orchid

 
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P R E C I S I O N.

atlanta*casting 17 May 2010
#8
Greetings,

We have a set of older, rasised piviot rivet, Smith and Wesson Model 94 handcuffs.  We tried a "N" stamped key and it did not work.

There is no letter stamped on the box, but there is an "R" visiable above and to the left of the serial number.  Does anyone know what key would work with these cuffs.

On another note the serial number has been scratched off.  Any ideas why someone would deface the serial number on an old set of cuffs?  The number "213" is cut into the lock case, poorly spaced, near the groove that was the serial number.

I can put up photos if anyone cares enough.

Orchid

 
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That's pretty picky of you Anon.

Who cares really. I know that I like to see posters post and don't really care if their posts

have some grammatical errors and miss-spelled words.

Words and phrases are used differently depending on what location you live in so "get a life" Anon.

Go back to your reading club and laugh all you want about the broken english used here.

Hey Anon how about this word that means you: C O W A R D L Y

Anoynumos 17 May 2010
#9
Greetings,

We have a set of older, rasised piviot rivet, Smith and Wesson Model 94 handcuffs.  We tried a "N" stamped key and it did not work.

There is no letter stamped on the box, but there is an "R" visiable above and to the left of the serial number.  Does anyone know what key would work with these cuffs.

On another note the serial number has been scratched off.  Any ideas why someone would deface the serial number on an old set of cuffs?  The number "213" is cut into the lock case, poorly spaced, near the groove that was the serial number.

I can put up photos if anyone cares enough.

Orchid

 
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A liltte bit of phoenitc corercotin is alywas wleomce but not extemrley imoptrant becusae you can stlil raed the mesasge no mtater how it is seplled.
atlanta*casting 18 May 2010
#10
Greetings,

We have a set of older, rasised piviot rivet, Smith and Wesson Model 94 handcuffs.  We tried a "N" stamped key and it did not work.

There is no letter stamped on the box, but there is an "R" visiable above and to the left of the serial number.  Does anyone know what key would work with these cuffs.

On another note the serial number has been scratched off.  Any ideas why someone would deface the serial number on an old set of cuffs?  The number "213" is cut into the lock case, poorly spaced, near the groove that was the serial number.

I can put up photos if anyone cares enough.

Orchid

 
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So Cowardly Anon,

Decifer this: XXXX XXX...
Anoynumos 18 May 2010
#11
Greetings,

We have a set of older, rasised piviot rivet, Smith and Wesson Model 94 handcuffs.  We tried a "N" stamped key and it did not work.

There is no letter stamped on the box, but there is an "R" visiable above and to the left of the serial number.  Does anyone know what key would work with these cuffs.

On another note the serial number has been scratched off.  Any ideas why someone would deface the serial number on an old set of cuffs?  The number "213" is cut into the lock case, poorly spaced, near the groove that was the serial number.

I can put up photos if anyone cares enough.

Orchid

 
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Well, you asked, so here it is in definition form.

First word:
Origin:
1495-1505; akin to MD fokken to thrust,

Second word:
something or someone closely identified with or resembling the person addressed
atlanta*casting 18 May 2010
#12
Greetings,

We have a set of older, rasised piviot rivet, Smith and Wesson Model 94 handcuffs.  We tried a "N" stamped key and it did not work.

There is no letter stamped on the box, but there is an "R" visiable above and to the left of the serial number.  Does anyone know what key would work with these cuffs.

On another note the serial number has been scratched off.  Any ideas why someone would deface the serial number on an old set of cuffs?  The number "213" is cut into the lock case, poorly spaced, near the groove that was the serial number.

I can put up photos if anyone cares enough.

Orchid

 
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Too bad anon spent so much time typing.

The answer is: BUZZ OFF...
Andy-58 18 May 2010
#13
Greetings,

We have a set of older, rasised piviot rivet, Smith and Wesson Model 94 handcuffs.  We tried a "N" stamped key and it did not work.

There is no letter stamped on the box, but there is an "R" visiable above and to the left of the serial number.  Does anyone know what key would work with these cuffs.

On another note the serial number has been scratched off.  Any ideas why someone would deface the serial number on an old set of cuffs?  The number "213" is cut into the lock case, poorly spaced, near the groove that was the serial number.

I can put up photos if anyone cares enough.

Orchid

 
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Hello,
back to topic...

A friend had also a S&W 94 with non "N"-Key, but no key. i have made a key for him out of a piece of brass tube (inner and outer diameter was right). First i picked the cuff until it was halfway between single and double lock. Now i can see which pin is "X" and which is "O", the keytype was unknown. Then i have filed a slit and the notches into tube. About 5-10 minutes later i had a working key. Also it was possible to order the correct key if definition of code is well defined: is "X" or "O" the deeper pin inside lock? Wich is the first pin in code and are they counted clockwise or counterclockwise?

You can change a "N"-key to each other key if you have enough, perhaps you must shorten it about 1mm when a "deep pin" becomes a "not so deep pin".

Best regards
Howy 19 May 2010
#14
Greetings,

We have a set of older, rasised piviot rivet, Smith and Wesson Model 94 handcuffs.  We tried a "N" stamped key and it did not work.

There is no letter stamped on the box, but there is an "R" visiable above and to the left of the serial number.  Does anyone know what key would work with these cuffs.

On another note the serial number has been scratched off.  Any ideas why someone would deface the serial number on an old set of cuffs?  The number "213" is cut into the lock case, poorly spaced, near the groove that was the serial number.

I can put up photos if anyone cares enough.

Orchid

 
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I believe that Dorson makes the 94 keys which are available at www.erestraint.com

They seem to be longer on the pin or working end of the key, so instead of using an original S&W N key, I recommend using one of these, as there is much more metal there to file down, prehaps enough to change the key two times.

Remember with 4 pins and 2 depths there are only 16 possible combinations, all out and all in should be automatically thrown out for security reasone, so there are only 14 possible combinations left.

If the slots are cut on four positions of one key it could be rotated to each position four times to further the chance that it would open the 94's.

Howy
Cincy
swmymancave 11 Aug 2023
#15
Hello I have a set of 1980 Smith & Wesson handcuffs that have W H prefix stamped into them. Any idea what that means??
djhalfdead 11 Aug 2023
#16
swmymancave wrote: ↑
Aug 11, 2023
Hello I have a set of 1980 Smith & Wesson handcuffs that have W H prefix stamped into them. Any idea what that means??
Please provide us with a picture of the stamping. That may better help us, to help you.
-Richard Knip-
swmymancave 11 Aug 2023
#17
OK here it is
Unknown / guest 11 Aug 2023
#18
Did the pics come through? I don't see them
PaulJDavies 11 Aug 2023
#19
Looks like previous owners initials, not factory stamped.
djhalfdead 12 Aug 2023
#20
swmymancave wrote: ↑
Aug 11, 2023
Did the pics come through? I don't see them
I also agree with what Paul said below my comment. This looks to be either the initials of the previous owner or possibly the initials of a facility that they were issued to/used at. Either way, it is not a factory placed stamp and would have no effect on their value or collectability. Thank you for providing the great pictures, so we could get a good look at the stamps, though!
-Richard Knip-