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Ron Spitz 13 Dec 2010
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I recently obtained a nice Bagno(not sure if this is the correct term to use). They are small in size being only 1 1/2 inches between the center tube and the outer frame. They will just fit my wrist. The construction is interesting having two tubes in the center completely covering the bolt and threads. The inner tube is threaded to receive the bolt which is secured in the lower tube. The bolt is turned by a triangular key. The bottom plate can be swiveled but not removed, since one side of the frame is peened to hold the bottom plate. The construction is good and the welding on the bottom plate is fair. Overall it is solid and nicely made. There are no markings on the piece.

Has anyone seen one like this or have any ideas about it?

Thanks.

Ron







Dorson 14 Dec 2010
#2
Now isn't that a clever version of the Bango.... And you don't have the threads biting into the wrists.
Dorson 14 Dec 2010
#3
I recently obtained a nice Bagno(not sure if this is the correct term to use). They are small in size being only 1 1/2 inches between the center tube and the outer frame. They will just fit my wrist. The construction is interesting having two tubes in the center completely covering the bolt and threads. The inner tube is threaded to receive the bolt which is secured in the lower tube. The bolt is turned by a triangular key. The bottom plate can be swiveled but not removed, since one side of the frame is peened to hold the bottom plate. The construction is good and the welding on the bottom plate is fair. Overall it is solid and nicely made. There are no markings on the piece.

Has anyone seen one like this or have any ideas about it?

Thanks.

Ron







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I was in a hurry, it looks to be probably a one of a kind done by someone probably at home. The cutting of the metal is not clean and it shows the person has not yet mastered stick welding(SMAW or MMA). Still a clever idea of doing it still....
Ian McColl 14 Dec 2010
#4
I recently obtained a nice Bagno(not sure if this is the correct term to use). They are small in size being only 1 1/2 inches between the center tube and the outer frame. They will just fit my wrist. The construction is interesting having two tubes in the center completely covering the bolt and threads. The inner tube is threaded to receive the bolt which is secured in the lower tube. The bolt is turned by a triangular key. The bottom plate can be swiveled but not removed, since one side of the frame is peened to hold the bottom plate. The construction is good and the welding on the bottom plate is fair. Overall it is solid and nicely made. There are no markings on the piece.

Has anyone seen one like this or have any ideas about it?

Thanks.

Ron







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Hi Dorson, if you think this has been stick welded, then why is the tube split and not modern??

Ian
The Amazing Michael 14 Dec 2010
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I recently obtained a nice Bagno(not sure if this is the correct term to use). They are small in size being only 1 1/2 inches between the center tube and the outer frame. They will just fit my wrist. The construction is interesting having two tubes in the center completely covering the bolt and threads. The inner tube is threaded to receive the bolt which is secured in the lower tube. The bolt is turned by a triangular key. The bottom plate can be swiveled but not removed, since one side of the frame is peened to hold the bottom plate. The construction is good and the welding on the bottom plate is fair. Overall it is solid and nicely made. There are no markings on the piece.

Has anyone seen one like this or have any ideas about it?

Thanks.

Ron







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Ron, I seen this cuff on eBay and commented to my wife and one of my sons about it's uniqueness. My wife, unbeknown to me, was bidding against you on it, hoping to get it for me for Christmas this year. She told me she was bidding on a cuff I was watching on eBay and said she forgot to check on it until it was too late and that it sold for $1.00 more than she had bid. Oh well, congrats on winning it and thank you for posting the pics (you have satisfied my curiosity about this unique cuff).

After much study of the eBay pic, I inferred that it worked the way it does. I don't own a single pair of Bagno cuffs and don't have a great love for them but this pair is really cool. I would be interested to know some of the history of this cuff. Congrats again!

Cheers, Mike D~C/
Ron Spitz 14 Dec 2010
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I recently obtained a nice Bagno(not sure if this is the correct term to use). They are small in size being only 1 1/2 inches between the center tube and the outer frame. They will just fit my wrist. The construction is interesting having two tubes in the center completely covering the bolt and threads. The inner tube is threaded to receive the bolt which is secured in the lower tube. The bolt is turned by a triangular key. The bottom plate can be swiveled but not removed, since one side of the frame is peened to hold the bottom plate. The construction is good and the welding on the bottom plate is fair. Overall it is solid and nicely made. There are no markings on the piece.

Has anyone seen one like this or have any ideas about it?

Thanks.

Ron







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The outer tube does have a split/seam and can be seen in the pictures. The inner tube does not have any split or seam. The workmanship is on the crude side but they did take the trouble of making the key end of the bolt fit a triangular key which was more work than leaving it as a regular bolt.

It probably is a one of a kind and I thought the two tube method to cover the threads was an interesting idea.

The pictures on eBay were very poor and I had no idea what I was really getting but was quite pleased when they arrived. Joe has the original listing on his recent auction post. Sorry Mike, you never know who is bidding on eBay any more and thanks to your wife for not having a higher reserve.

Who ever make this did a good job but not professional workmanship.

Ron
Dorson 14 Dec 2010
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I recently obtained a nice Bagno(not sure if this is the correct term to use). They are small in size being only 1 1/2 inches between the center tube and the outer frame. They will just fit my wrist. The construction is interesting having two tubes in the center completely covering the bolt and threads. The inner tube is threaded to receive the bolt which is secured in the lower tube. The bolt is turned by a triangular key. The bottom plate can be swiveled but not removed, since one side of the frame is peened to hold the bottom plate. The construction is good and the welding on the bottom plate is fair. Overall it is solid and nicely made. There are no markings on the piece.

Has anyone seen one like this or have any ideas about it?

Thanks.

Ron







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I am saying it is somewhat modern because of the electric welding that I see in the pictures. I re-posted Ron's picture to show the area. The red arrows are pointing to the welds and you can see evidence of how the metal was deposited in little like balls and then ground down. Having done stick welding myself and doing detail work like that I know all to well what it looks like. And I have done my fair share of knocking and wire brushing off scale and flux and grind it down. Then trying to fill in voids and grinding down again. For big stuff stick is alright but why I finally bought a TIG welder so I could do precise work and have it look really nice.

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Ian McColl 15 Dec 2010
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I recently obtained a nice Bagno(not sure if this is the correct term to use). They are small in size being only 1 1/2 inches between the center tube and the outer frame. They will just fit my wrist. The construction is interesting having two tubes in the center completely covering the bolt and threads. The inner tube is threaded to receive the bolt which is secured in the lower tube. The bolt is turned by a triangular key. The bottom plate can be swiveled but not removed, since one side of the frame is peened to hold the bottom plate. The construction is good and the welding on the bottom plate is fair. Overall it is solid and nicely made. There are no markings on the piece.

Has anyone seen one like this or have any ideas about it?

Thanks.

Ron







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Hi Dorson, you wrote

it looks to be probably a one of a kind done by someone probably at home.

that seemed to suggest the whole thing was modern made. You might have forgotten to say you were only talking about the weld.



Ian
Ron Spitz 15 Dec 2010
#9
I recently obtained a nice Bagno(not sure if this is the correct term to use). They are small in size being only 1 1/2 inches between the center tube and the outer frame. They will just fit my wrist. The construction is interesting having two tubes in the center completely covering the bolt and threads. The inner tube is threaded to receive the bolt which is secured in the lower tube. The bolt is turned by a triangular key. The bottom plate can be swiveled but not removed, since one side of the frame is peened to hold the bottom plate. The construction is good and the welding on the bottom plate is fair. Overall it is solid and nicely made. There are no markings on the piece.

Has anyone seen one like this or have any ideas about it?

Thanks.

Ron







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I asked the seller if he had any information about the cuffs. He bought them about 10 years ago from an estate in Berkeley, California. This may or may not help, but someone took time to make them and most likely for private use. As usual we will never know but I would guess they were made in the 1940 or 50's.

Ron
Dorson 15 Dec 2010
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I recently obtained a nice Bagno(not sure if this is the correct term to use). They are small in size being only 1 1/2 inches between the center tube and the outer frame. They will just fit my wrist. The construction is interesting having two tubes in the center completely covering the bolt and threads. The inner tube is threaded to receive the bolt which is secured in the lower tube. The bolt is turned by a triangular key. The bottom plate can be swiveled but not removed, since one side of the frame is peened to hold the bottom plate. The construction is good and the welding on the bottom plate is fair. Overall it is solid and nicely made. There are no markings on the piece.

Has anyone seen one like this or have any ideas about it?

Thanks.

Ron







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I never said it wasn't modern, in fact it has to be considering when the wide spread availability of stick welding. I only used that one picture to show the welding where it was obvious but on the other side is welded too. IMHO, it would be 1950's time frame forward.