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Mark Lyons 05 Mar 2011
#1
Here is a new twist. I never heard this fictitious line before.

We all have leg irons in our collections that must have been used on Pirates, cattle rustlers from the old west, Chicago Mobsters, or cuffs from an old European dungeon.
Here is your chance to obtain leg irons from the Old Nantucket Jail that most likely "held it's share of drunken whalers over the years".

I am glad that the Manor House Antiques Co-operative at 31 1/2 Centre St. on Nantucket Island is offering such quality pieces to the Island's visitors and now to the world via eBay. If you missed buying these leg irons from the great Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s, you now have a second chance.
What a great provider of historical relics this shop is!

Of course, I am being sarcastic in the above.
I believe this rip-off company knows they are selling garbage to the world as their rent must be very expensive.
They advertise this junk cuff as being legitimate but state that they are "definitely old style".
This line is the ONLY factual statement in their description and is designed to allow them to weasel themselves into claiming they disclosed some truth about them. How they can defend their position that they are dated from the 1700's lends credence to their willingness to deceive their own customers. A whale of a tale!

I recommend visiting Nantucket as it is a beautiful tourist mecca, but avoid the Manor House Antique Co-operative at all costs. A purchase from them could spoil your vacation.

Here is their description:
From Nantucket Island I bring you a rare piece of Nantucket memorabilia: a great pair of handcufffs dating from the 1700s from the Old Nantucket Jail. Purchased from Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s this is a very rare find. these are definitely old style and probably held it's share of drunken whalers over the years. Still in great condition . Our retail store is open 9 months a year at 31 1/2 Centre Street and called Manor House Antiques Co-operative and by app't during the winter months. Feel free to write to us at dlplace@comcast.net or call us during normal hours at (508)333-9100 to view any item live on camera through our laptop computer(I shall need advance notice to do this as plates are in safe keeping for now. We have over 8,400 items currently for sale. You may also contact us on skype at davidplace75 to view the item.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nantucket-Old-Jail- ... 53e675c796


mark
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Edgeplay_Cgo 05 Mar 2011
#2
Yep. Looks like a place to avoid.
Jack.Tanis 06 Mar 2011
#3
Here is a new twist. I never heard this fictitious line before.

We all have leg irons in our collections that must have been used on Pirates, cattle rustlers from the old west, Chicago Mobsters, or cuffs from an old European dungeon.
Here is your chance to obtain leg irons from the Old Nantucket Jail that most likely "held it's share of drunken whalers over the years".

I am glad that the Manor House Antiques Co-operative at 31 1/2 Centre St. on Nantucket Island is offering such quality pieces to the Island's visitors and now to the world via eBay. If you missed buying these leg irons from the great Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s, you now have a second chance.
What a great provider of historical relics this shop is!

Of course, I am being sarcastic in the above.
I believe this rip-off company knows they are selling garbage to the world as their rent must be very expensive.
They advertise this junk cuff as being legitimate but state that they are "definitely old style".
This line is the ONLY factual statement in their description and is designed to allow them to weasel themselves into claiming they disclosed some truth about them. How they can defend their position that they are dated from the 1700's lends credence to their willingness to deceive their own customers. A whale of a tale!

I recommend visiting Nantucket as it is a beautiful tourist mecca, but avoid the Manor House Antique Co-operative at all costs. A purchase from them could spoil your vacation.

Here is their description:
From Nantucket Island I bring you a rare piece of Nantucket memorabilia: a great pair of handcufffs dating from the 1700s from the Old Nantucket Jail. Purchased from Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s this is a very rare find. these are definitely old style and probably held it's share of drunken whalers over the years. Still in great condition . Our retail store is open 9 months a year at 31 1/2 Centre Street and called Manor House Antiques Co-operative and by app't during the winter months. Feel free to write to us at dlplace@comcast.net or call us during normal hours at (508)333-9100 to view any item live on camera through our laptop computer(I shall need advance notice to do this as plates are in safe keeping for now. We have over 8,400 items currently for sale. You may also contact us on skype at davidplace75 to view the item.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nantucket-Old-Jail- ... 53e675c796


mark
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Dear Mark,

I wrote him and received this reply.

"Thanks but my punctuation and spelling are just fine" -- I couldn't resist -- "as is my knowledge regarding the cuffs. You are the 8th person to write me and everyone is telling me they are new, made in 2010, or recently made from a number of countries. Unfortunately, everyone is 100% incorrect, so I have asked everyone to stop sending me their opinions. David(no need to respond as I am very busy right now with business)"

Cheers,

Jack
http://www.editing.org.uk/tanis/collectibles.htm
Mark Lyons 06 Mar 2011
#4
Here is a new twist. I never heard this fictitious line before.

We all have leg irons in our collections that must have been used on Pirates, cattle rustlers from the old west, Chicago Mobsters, or cuffs from an old European dungeon.
Here is your chance to obtain leg irons from the Old Nantucket Jail that most likely "held it's share of drunken whalers over the years".

I am glad that the Manor House Antiques Co-operative at 31 1/2 Centre St. on Nantucket Island is offering such quality pieces to the Island's visitors and now to the world via eBay. If you missed buying these leg irons from the great Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s, you now have a second chance.
What a great provider of historical relics this shop is!

Of course, I am being sarcastic in the above.
I believe this rip-off company knows they are selling garbage to the world as their rent must be very expensive.
They advertise this junk cuff as being legitimate but state that they are "definitely old style".
This line is the ONLY factual statement in their description and is designed to allow them to weasel themselves into claiming they disclosed some truth about them. How they can defend their position that they are dated from the 1700's lends credence to their willingness to deceive their own customers. A whale of a tale!

I recommend visiting Nantucket as it is a beautiful tourist mecca, but avoid the Manor House Antique Co-operative at all costs. A purchase from them could spoil your vacation.

Here is their description:
From Nantucket Island I bring you a rare piece of Nantucket memorabilia: a great pair of handcufffs dating from the 1700s from the Old Nantucket Jail. Purchased from Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s this is a very rare find. these are definitely old style and probably held it's share of drunken whalers over the years. Still in great condition . Our retail store is open 9 months a year at 31 1/2 Centre Street and called Manor House Antiques Co-operative and by app't during the winter months. Feel free to write to us at dlplace@comcast.net or call us during normal hours at (508)333-9100 to view any item live on camera through our laptop computer(I shall need advance notice to do this as plates are in safe keeping for now. We have over 8,400 items currently for sale. You may also contact us on skype at davidplace75 to view the item.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nantucket-Old-Jail- ... 53e675c796


mark
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Wow, the guy is a total jerk!
He thinks his spelling is good too?
How about this line: "a great pair of handcufffs"

If I ever wanted to compete with Joe, I would call my website: Handcufffs.org.

I would expect a handcuff hustler to be in some hole in the wall schlock shop in NY City or in El Segundo. Not in Nantucket!
I guess crooks will ply their trade wherever thay can make a fast buck.

I know, we could ask Murray if these are real.
As he stated, "Houdini had every key to every lock in the world".
If these are REAL 17th century leg irons, then Houdini would have found a key to these on his 102-105 numbered key ring.
If a key was found for these "antiques", then the seller is honorable. If not, then he is a crook and probably breaks into Nantucket lumberyards at night prying out long nails from wooden crates.

I will write to him too.

mark
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Dorson 06 Mar 2011
#5
Here is a new twist. I never heard this fictitious line before.

We all have leg irons in our collections that must have been used on Pirates, cattle rustlers from the old west, Chicago Mobsters, or cuffs from an old European dungeon.
Here is your chance to obtain leg irons from the Old Nantucket Jail that most likely "held it's share of drunken whalers over the years".

I am glad that the Manor House Antiques Co-operative at 31 1/2 Centre St. on Nantucket Island is offering such quality pieces to the Island's visitors and now to the world via eBay. If you missed buying these leg irons from the great Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s, you now have a second chance.
What a great provider of historical relics this shop is!

Of course, I am being sarcastic in the above.
I believe this rip-off company knows they are selling garbage to the world as their rent must be very expensive.
They advertise this junk cuff as being legitimate but state that they are "definitely old style".
This line is the ONLY factual statement in their description and is designed to allow them to weasel themselves into claiming they disclosed some truth about them. How they can defend their position that they are dated from the 1700's lends credence to their willingness to deceive their own customers. A whale of a tale!

I recommend visiting Nantucket as it is a beautiful tourist mecca, but avoid the Manor House Antique Co-operative at all costs. A purchase from them could spoil your vacation.

Here is their description:
From Nantucket Island I bring you a rare piece of Nantucket memorabilia: a great pair of handcufffs dating from the 1700s from the Old Nantucket Jail. Purchased from Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s this is a very rare find. these are definitely old style and probably held it's share of drunken whalers over the years. Still in great condition . Our retail store is open 9 months a year at 31 1/2 Centre Street and called Manor House Antiques Co-operative and by app't during the winter months. Feel free to write to us at dlplace@comcast.net or call us during normal hours at (508)333-9100 to view any item live on camera through our laptop computer(I shall need advance notice to do this as plates are in safe keeping for now. We have over 8,400 items currently for sale. You may also contact us on skype at davidplace75 to view the item.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nantucket-Old-Jail- ... 53e675c796


mark
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Anyway I see it, the person is willing committing fraud and so ebay should know...
Mark Lyons 06 Mar 2011
#6
Here is a new twist. I never heard this fictitious line before.

We all have leg irons in our collections that must have been used on Pirates, cattle rustlers from the old west, Chicago Mobsters, or cuffs from an old European dungeon.
Here is your chance to obtain leg irons from the Old Nantucket Jail that most likely "held it's share of drunken whalers over the years".

I am glad that the Manor House Antiques Co-operative at 31 1/2 Centre St. on Nantucket Island is offering such quality pieces to the Island's visitors and now to the world via eBay. If you missed buying these leg irons from the great Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s, you now have a second chance.
What a great provider of historical relics this shop is!

Of course, I am being sarcastic in the above.
I believe this rip-off company knows they are selling garbage to the world as their rent must be very expensive.
They advertise this junk cuff as being legitimate but state that they are "definitely old style".
This line is the ONLY factual statement in their description and is designed to allow them to weasel themselves into claiming they disclosed some truth about them. How they can defend their position that they are dated from the 1700's lends credence to their willingness to deceive their own customers. A whale of a tale!

I recommend visiting Nantucket as it is a beautiful tourist mecca, but avoid the Manor House Antique Co-operative at all costs. A purchase from them could spoil your vacation.

Here is their description:
From Nantucket Island I bring you a rare piece of Nantucket memorabilia: a great pair of handcufffs dating from the 1700s from the Old Nantucket Jail. Purchased from Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s this is a very rare find. these are definitely old style and probably held it's share of drunken whalers over the years. Still in great condition . Our retail store is open 9 months a year at 31 1/2 Centre Street and called Manor House Antiques Co-operative and by app't during the winter months. Feel free to write to us at dlplace@comcast.net or call us during normal hours at (508)333-9100 to view any item live on camera through our laptop computer(I shall need advance notice to do this as plates are in safe keeping for now. We have over 8,400 items currently for sale. You may also contact us on skype at davidplace75 to view the item.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nantucket-Old-Jail- ... 53e675c796


mark
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I wrote to this guy just ONCE and told him to reconsider telling embellished stories of seafaring captains putting irons on his deckhands when they rise up and have a mutiny abord and othe stories.
I told him that his customers would appreciate a dealer in antiquities with high moral ground. Here is his reply to my one and only question:

Dear cuffs,

Please do not bother me anymore. I have been an antiques dealer for over 37 years and Rafael Osona holds over 5 world records at his auction house. I think between us we are capable of knowing antique from old. explain how these were on the inventory of the coffin home from over 100 years ago when I purchased them over 20 years ago.....If you don't want them move on. My reputation is fine.


- painintheack

Maybe he should change his eBay name to "painintheneck" or other lower body parts


mark
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Ian McColl 06 Mar 2011
#7
Here is a new twist. I never heard this fictitious line before.

We all have leg irons in our collections that must have been used on Pirates, cattle rustlers from the old west, Chicago Mobsters, or cuffs from an old European dungeon.
Here is your chance to obtain leg irons from the Old Nantucket Jail that most likely "held it's share of drunken whalers over the years".

I am glad that the Manor House Antiques Co-operative at 31 1/2 Centre St. on Nantucket Island is offering such quality pieces to the Island's visitors and now to the world via eBay. If you missed buying these leg irons from the great Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s, you now have a second chance.
What a great provider of historical relics this shop is!

Of course, I am being sarcastic in the above.
I believe this rip-off company knows they are selling garbage to the world as their rent must be very expensive.
They advertise this junk cuff as being legitimate but state that they are "definitely old style".
This line is the ONLY factual statement in their description and is designed to allow them to weasel themselves into claiming they disclosed some truth about them. How they can defend their position that they are dated from the 1700's lends credence to their willingness to deceive their own customers. A whale of a tale!

I recommend visiting Nantucket as it is a beautiful tourist mecca, but avoid the Manor House Antique Co-operative at all costs. A purchase from them could spoil your vacation.

Here is their description:
From Nantucket Island I bring you a rare piece of Nantucket memorabilia: a great pair of handcufffs dating from the 1700s from the Old Nantucket Jail. Purchased from Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s this is a very rare find. these are definitely old style and probably held it's share of drunken whalers over the years. Still in great condition . Our retail store is open 9 months a year at 31 1/2 Centre Street and called Manor House Antiques Co-operative and by app't during the winter months. Feel free to write to us at dlplace@comcast.net or call us during normal hours at (508)333-9100 to view any item live on camera through our laptop computer(I shall need advance notice to do this as plates are in safe keeping for now. We have over 8,400 items currently for sale. You may also contact us on skype at davidplace75 to view the item.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nantucket-Old-Jail- ... 53e675c796


mark
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I bought my pair which look exactly like these back in the late 1970's. So anyone telling this guy they were made last year is wrong and he now has about ten people to prove his story is better than theirs as they are ALSO wrong.

Don't muddy the waters with more poor info. Just tell the guy he is wrong and don't make mistake as well.


Ian
PaulReardon 06 Mar 2011
#8
Here is a new twist. I never heard this fictitious line before.

We all have leg irons in our collections that must have been used on Pirates, cattle rustlers from the old west, Chicago Mobsters, or cuffs from an old European dungeon.
Here is your chance to obtain leg irons from the Old Nantucket Jail that most likely "held it's share of drunken whalers over the years".

I am glad that the Manor House Antiques Co-operative at 31 1/2 Centre St. on Nantucket Island is offering such quality pieces to the Island's visitors and now to the world via eBay. If you missed buying these leg irons from the great Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s, you now have a second chance.
What a great provider of historical relics this shop is!

Of course, I am being sarcastic in the above.
I believe this rip-off company knows they are selling garbage to the world as their rent must be very expensive.
They advertise this junk cuff as being legitimate but state that they are "definitely old style".
This line is the ONLY factual statement in their description and is designed to allow them to weasel themselves into claiming they disclosed some truth about them. How they can defend their position that they are dated from the 1700's lends credence to their willingness to deceive their own customers. A whale of a tale!

I recommend visiting Nantucket as it is a beautiful tourist mecca, but avoid the Manor House Antique Co-operative at all costs. A purchase from them could spoil your vacation.

Here is their description:
From Nantucket Island I bring you a rare piece of Nantucket memorabilia: a great pair of handcufffs dating from the 1700s from the Old Nantucket Jail. Purchased from Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s this is a very rare find. these are definitely old style and probably held it's share of drunken whalers over the years. Still in great condition . Our retail store is open 9 months a year at 31 1/2 Centre Street and called Manor House Antiques Co-operative and by app't during the winter months. Feel free to write to us at dlplace@comcast.net or call us during normal hours at (508)333-9100 to view any item live on camera through our laptop computer(I shall need advance notice to do this as plates are in safe keeping for now. We have over 8,400 items currently for sale. You may also contact us on skype at davidplace75 to view the item.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nantucket-Old-Jail- ... 53e675c796


mark
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Looks like he pulled the auction.
Mark Lyons 06 Mar 2011
#9
Here is a new twist. I never heard this fictitious line before.

We all have leg irons in our collections that must have been used on Pirates, cattle rustlers from the old west, Chicago Mobsters, or cuffs from an old European dungeon.
Here is your chance to obtain leg irons from the Old Nantucket Jail that most likely "held it's share of drunken whalers over the years".

I am glad that the Manor House Antiques Co-operative at 31 1/2 Centre St. on Nantucket Island is offering such quality pieces to the Island's visitors and now to the world via eBay. If you missed buying these leg irons from the great Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s, you now have a second chance.
What a great provider of historical relics this shop is!

Of course, I am being sarcastic in the above.
I believe this rip-off company knows they are selling garbage to the world as their rent must be very expensive.
They advertise this junk cuff as being legitimate but state that they are "definitely old style".
This line is the ONLY factual statement in their description and is designed to allow them to weasel themselves into claiming they disclosed some truth about them. How they can defend their position that they are dated from the 1700's lends credence to their willingness to deceive their own customers. A whale of a tale!

I recommend visiting Nantucket as it is a beautiful tourist mecca, but avoid the Manor House Antique Co-operative at all costs. A purchase from them could spoil your vacation.

Here is their description:
From Nantucket Island I bring you a rare piece of Nantucket memorabilia: a great pair of handcufffs dating from the 1700s from the Old Nantucket Jail. Purchased from Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s this is a very rare find. these are definitely old style and probably held it's share of drunken whalers over the years. Still in great condition . Our retail store is open 9 months a year at 31 1/2 Centre Street and called Manor House Antiques Co-operative and by app't during the winter months. Feel free to write to us at dlplace@comcast.net or call us during normal hours at (508)333-9100 to view any item live on camera through our laptop computer(I shall need advance notice to do this as plates are in safe keeping for now. We have over 8,400 items currently for sale. You may also contact us on skype at davidplace75 to view the item.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nantucket-Old-Jail- ... 53e675c796


mark
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Good!

This is one Fake-Fraud-Fantasy item that an honest eBayer won't spend hard earned cash on to feed some unscrupulous seller/liar.

I even had my doubts that there was an Old Nantucket Jail.
There was and I am doing some research on it.
Here are some postcards showing some views.
The original was built in 1711 and either eplaced or modified in 1805.








Todays Score:

Handcufffs Seller -0
Handcuffs.org -1


mark
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Jack.Tanis 06 Mar 2011
#10
Here is a new twist. I never heard this fictitious line before.

We all have leg irons in our collections that must have been used on Pirates, cattle rustlers from the old west, Chicago Mobsters, or cuffs from an old European dungeon.
Here is your chance to obtain leg irons from the Old Nantucket Jail that most likely "held it's share of drunken whalers over the years".

I am glad that the Manor House Antiques Co-operative at 31 1/2 Centre St. on Nantucket Island is offering such quality pieces to the Island's visitors and now to the world via eBay. If you missed buying these leg irons from the great Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s, you now have a second chance.
What a great provider of historical relics this shop is!

Of course, I am being sarcastic in the above.
I believe this rip-off company knows they are selling garbage to the world as their rent must be very expensive.
They advertise this junk cuff as being legitimate but state that they are "definitely old style".
This line is the ONLY factual statement in their description and is designed to allow them to weasel themselves into claiming they disclosed some truth about them. How they can defend their position that they are dated from the 1700's lends credence to their willingness to deceive their own customers. A whale of a tale!

I recommend visiting Nantucket as it is a beautiful tourist mecca, but avoid the Manor House Antique Co-operative at all costs. A purchase from them could spoil your vacation.

Here is their description:
From Nantucket Island I bring you a rare piece of Nantucket memorabilia: a great pair of handcufffs dating from the 1700s from the Old Nantucket Jail. Purchased from Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s this is a very rare find. these are definitely old style and probably held it's share of drunken whalers over the years. Still in great condition . Our retail store is open 9 months a year at 31 1/2 Centre Street and called Manor House Antiques Co-operative and by app't during the winter months. Feel free to write to us at dlplace@comcast.net or call us during normal hours at (508)333-9100 to view any item live on camera through our laptop computer(I shall need advance notice to do this as plates are in safe keeping for now. We have over 8,400 items currently for sale. You may also contact us on skype at davidplace75 to view the item.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nantucket-Old-Jail- ... 53e675c796


mark
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Dear Ian,

Your message is correct. I gave the seller the time-frame of the last quarter of the 20th Century and India or Pakistan being the likeliest countries of origin. I accused him of nothing (except, in a friendly way, of using incorrect spelling, grammar and punctuation), instead suggesting he might be interested in knowing his description had errors in it.

Incidentally, leg irons are far too kind for whalers, drunken or sober.

And now for something completely different.

Check out, even if you don't read it all, http://journalofcosmology.com/Life100.html . If this is verified, it will be one of the most important discoveries in human history!

Cheers,

Jack
http://www.editing.org.uk/tanis/collectibles.htm
Mark Lyons 06 Mar 2011
#11
Here is a new twist. I never heard this fictitious line before.

We all have leg irons in our collections that must have been used on Pirates, cattle rustlers from the old west, Chicago Mobsters, or cuffs from an old European dungeon.
Here is your chance to obtain leg irons from the Old Nantucket Jail that most likely "held it's share of drunken whalers over the years".

I am glad that the Manor House Antiques Co-operative at 31 1/2 Centre St. on Nantucket Island is offering such quality pieces to the Island's visitors and now to the world via eBay. If you missed buying these leg irons from the great Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s, you now have a second chance.
What a great provider of historical relics this shop is!

Of course, I am being sarcastic in the above.
I believe this rip-off company knows they are selling garbage to the world as their rent must be very expensive.
They advertise this junk cuff as being legitimate but state that they are "definitely old style".
This line is the ONLY factual statement in their description and is designed to allow them to weasel themselves into claiming they disclosed some truth about them. How they can defend their position that they are dated from the 1700's lends credence to their willingness to deceive their own customers. A whale of a tale!

I recommend visiting Nantucket as it is a beautiful tourist mecca, but avoid the Manor House Antique Co-operative at all costs. A purchase from them could spoil your vacation.

Here is their description:
From Nantucket Island I bring you a rare piece of Nantucket memorabilia: a great pair of handcufffs dating from the 1700s from the Old Nantucket Jail. Purchased from Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s this is a very rare find. these are definitely old style and probably held it's share of drunken whalers over the years. Still in great condition . Our retail store is open 9 months a year at 31 1/2 Centre Street and called Manor House Antiques Co-operative and by app't during the winter months. Feel free to write to us at dlplace@comcast.net or call us during normal hours at (508)333-9100 to view any item live on camera through our laptop computer(I shall need advance notice to do this as plates are in safe keeping for now. We have over 8,400 items currently for sale. You may also contact us on skype at davidplace75 to view the item.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nantucket-Old-Jail- ... 53e675c796


mark
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Jack and Ian,

Ian,
I too told the seller that the cuffs he was offering was most likely manufactured during the last quarter of the 20th Century from India or Pakistan.
He asked how it was possible that these were found in the coffin house, whatever that is. I elected to grant his request and don't "bother" him again, even though he asked me a direct question that warrants a reply.

I truly believe he is a crotchety old man who can't learn anything new. Maybe he really believes what he was told at the auction from where he purchased these.
In any event, he is trying to sell these junk cuffs as authentic historical irons and for the time being, no one will be spending good money on rubbish.

Jack,
I hope we wont have Leg Irons for Drunken Martians for sale anytime soon.
Very interesting article and I was amazed how much of it I understood.


mark
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Edgeplay_Cgo 07 Mar 2011
#12
Here is a new twist. I never heard this fictitious line before.

We all have leg irons in our collections that must have been used on Pirates, cattle rustlers from the old west, Chicago Mobsters, or cuffs from an old European dungeon.
Here is your chance to obtain leg irons from the Old Nantucket Jail that most likely "held it's share of drunken whalers over the years".

I am glad that the Manor House Antiques Co-operative at 31 1/2 Centre St. on Nantucket Island is offering such quality pieces to the Island's visitors and now to the world via eBay. If you missed buying these leg irons from the great Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s, you now have a second chance.
What a great provider of historical relics this shop is!

Of course, I am being sarcastic in the above.
I believe this rip-off company knows they are selling garbage to the world as their rent must be very expensive.
They advertise this junk cuff as being legitimate but state that they are "definitely old style".
This line is the ONLY factual statement in their description and is designed to allow them to weasel themselves into claiming they disclosed some truth about them. How they can defend their position that they are dated from the 1700's lends credence to their willingness to deceive their own customers. A whale of a tale!

I recommend visiting Nantucket as it is a beautiful tourist mecca, but avoid the Manor House Antique Co-operative at all costs. A purchase from them could spoil your vacation.

Here is their description:
From Nantucket Island I bring you a rare piece of Nantucket memorabilia: a great pair of handcufffs dating from the 1700s from the Old Nantucket Jail. Purchased from Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s this is a very rare find. these are definitely old style and probably held it's share of drunken whalers over the years. Still in great condition . Our retail store is open 9 months a year at 31 1/2 Centre Street and called Manor House Antiques Co-operative and by app't during the winter months. Feel free to write to us at dlplace@comcast.net or call us during normal hours at (508)333-9100 to view any item live on camera through our laptop computer(I shall need advance notice to do this as plates are in safe keeping for now. We have over 8,400 items currently for sale. You may also contact us on skype at davidplace75 to view the item.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nantucket-Old-Jail- ... 53e675c796


mark
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I have been an antiques dealer for over 37 years and Rafael Osona holds over 5 world records at his auction house.

I guess this calls into question, everything sold by Rafael Osona and the present huckster. But the antique world is known to be rife with crooks and frauds.

Caveat Emptor.
Mark Lyons 07 Mar 2011
#13
Here is a new twist. I never heard this fictitious line before.

We all have leg irons in our collections that must have been used on Pirates, cattle rustlers from the old west, Chicago Mobsters, or cuffs from an old European dungeon.
Here is your chance to obtain leg irons from the Old Nantucket Jail that most likely "held it's share of drunken whalers over the years".

I am glad that the Manor House Antiques Co-operative at 31 1/2 Centre St. on Nantucket Island is offering such quality pieces to the Island's visitors and now to the world via eBay. If you missed buying these leg irons from the great Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s, you now have a second chance.
What a great provider of historical relics this shop is!

Of course, I am being sarcastic in the above.
I believe this rip-off company knows they are selling garbage to the world as their rent must be very expensive.
They advertise this junk cuff as being legitimate but state that they are "definitely old style".
This line is the ONLY factual statement in their description and is designed to allow them to weasel themselves into claiming they disclosed some truth about them. How they can defend their position that they are dated from the 1700's lends credence to their willingness to deceive their own customers. A whale of a tale!

I recommend visiting Nantucket as it is a beautiful tourist mecca, but avoid the Manor House Antique Co-operative at all costs. A purchase from them could spoil your vacation.

Here is their description:
From Nantucket Island I bring you a rare piece of Nantucket memorabilia: a great pair of handcufffs dating from the 1700s from the Old Nantucket Jail. Purchased from Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s this is a very rare find. these are definitely old style and probably held it's share of drunken whalers over the years. Still in great condition . Our retail store is open 9 months a year at 31 1/2 Centre Street and called Manor House Antiques Co-operative and by app't during the winter months. Feel free to write to us at dlplace@comcast.net or call us during normal hours at (508)333-9100 to view any item live on camera through our laptop computer(I shall need advance notice to do this as plates are in safe keeping for now. We have over 8,400 items currently for sale. You may also contact us on skype at davidplace75 to view the item.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nantucket-Old-Jail- ... 53e675c796


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"5 world records at his auction house".....I wonder what kind of records he broke. Did he ever break Madoff's record?
Seriously, it looks like this Raphael Osona runs a nice action with offerings of scrimshaw, friendship baskets, embroidered artwork and paintings. Some beautiful things go through his auction house.
Is it possible that this eBay seller bought these leg irons from the auction?
I would like to think not, but it is possible for an auctioneer to be fooled and this is not a perfect world.
I would hope an auction house would have taken the time to research the items they are offering, but 10 or more years ago, resources were much more scarce.
Six years ago, the Radner auction had some problems with authenticity and as previously discussed in another blog, it is possible that a large quantity of the items sold never had been handled or owned by the world's most famous magician.
After reviewing the quality of the Osona auctions, and reading the eBay sellers replies, I would speculate that the eBayer is the handcuff huckster here.

It makes me cringe when I see some poor unsuspecting soul lay down a large sum of money on a historical cuff only to learn that it is a common reproduction.
I used to warn potential eBay customers back in the day when you could see and contact them and wrote my fraud guide to direct them into buying wisely.
I get many emails from buyers and most write AFTER they got ripped-off, but I have saved quite a few from making a costly mistake.
It is self-satisfying emulating David Horowitz, the consumer advocacy leader, and doing my handcuff version of FighBack.

mark
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Bruce Thomson 07 Mar 2011
#14
Here is a new twist. I never heard this fictitious line before.

We all have leg irons in our collections that must have been used on Pirates, cattle rustlers from the old west, Chicago Mobsters, or cuffs from an old European dungeon.
Here is your chance to obtain leg irons from the Old Nantucket Jail that most likely "held it's share of drunken whalers over the years".

I am glad that the Manor House Antiques Co-operative at 31 1/2 Centre St. on Nantucket Island is offering such quality pieces to the Island's visitors and now to the world via eBay. If you missed buying these leg irons from the great Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s, you now have a second chance.
What a great provider of historical relics this shop is!

Of course, I am being sarcastic in the above.
I believe this rip-off company knows they are selling garbage to the world as their rent must be very expensive.
They advertise this junk cuff as being legitimate but state that they are "definitely old style".
This line is the ONLY factual statement in their description and is designed to allow them to weasel themselves into claiming they disclosed some truth about them. How they can defend their position that they are dated from the 1700's lends credence to their willingness to deceive their own customers. A whale of a tale!

I recommend visiting Nantucket as it is a beautiful tourist mecca, but avoid the Manor House Antique Co-operative at all costs. A purchase from them could spoil your vacation.

Here is their description:
From Nantucket Island I bring you a rare piece of Nantucket memorabilia: a great pair of handcufffs dating from the 1700s from the Old Nantucket Jail. Purchased from Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s this is a very rare find. these are definitely old style and probably held it's share of drunken whalers over the years. Still in great condition . Our retail store is open 9 months a year at 31 1/2 Centre Street and called Manor House Antiques Co-operative and by app't during the winter months. Feel free to write to us at dlplace@comcast.net or call us during normal hours at (508)333-9100 to view any item live on camera through our laptop computer(I shall need advance notice to do this as plates are in safe keeping for now. We have over 8,400 items currently for sale. You may also contact us on skype at davidplace75 to view the item.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nantucket-Old-Jail- ... 53e675c796


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At antique shows, I have noticed that a lot of the dealers have general stuff at their tables, but they themselves specialize in their favorite thing. With time they have to get better at recognizing repros and counterfeit material, but pride plays a part of it. Would an established dealer want to admit they got taken? The last cuff I purchased was an English unmarked darby for what I think the market would bear, also on the table was an modern repro which was priced the same. I explained the difference to the dealer, who was polite about the whole thing....but didn't lower the price of the repro. Will the next person at the table be told its a repro or not?
Jack.Tanis 07 Mar 2011
#15
Here is a new twist. I never heard this fictitious line before.

We all have leg irons in our collections that must have been used on Pirates, cattle rustlers from the old west, Chicago Mobsters, or cuffs from an old European dungeon.
Here is your chance to obtain leg irons from the Old Nantucket Jail that most likely "held it's share of drunken whalers over the years".

I am glad that the Manor House Antiques Co-operative at 31 1/2 Centre St. on Nantucket Island is offering such quality pieces to the Island's visitors and now to the world via eBay. If you missed buying these leg irons from the great Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s, you now have a second chance.
What a great provider of historical relics this shop is!

Of course, I am being sarcastic in the above.
I believe this rip-off company knows they are selling garbage to the world as their rent must be very expensive.
They advertise this junk cuff as being legitimate but state that they are "definitely old style".
This line is the ONLY factual statement in their description and is designed to allow them to weasel themselves into claiming they disclosed some truth about them. How they can defend their position that they are dated from the 1700's lends credence to their willingness to deceive their own customers. A whale of a tale!

I recommend visiting Nantucket as it is a beautiful tourist mecca, but avoid the Manor House Antique Co-operative at all costs. A purchase from them could spoil your vacation.

Here is their description:
From Nantucket Island I bring you a rare piece of Nantucket memorabilia: a great pair of handcufffs dating from the 1700s from the Old Nantucket Jail. Purchased from Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s this is a very rare find. these are definitely old style and probably held it's share of drunken whalers over the years. Still in great condition . Our retail store is open 9 months a year at 31 1/2 Centre Street and called Manor House Antiques Co-operative and by app't during the winter months. Feel free to write to us at dlplace@comcast.net or call us during normal hours at (508)333-9100 to view any item live on camera through our laptop computer(I shall need advance notice to do this as plates are in safe keeping for now. We have over 8,400 items currently for sale. You may also contact us on skype at davidplace75 to view the item.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nantucket-Old-Jail- ... 53e675c796


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Hello,

The man seems honest and legitimate. Restraints collectors must keep in mind the dearth of resources and reliable reference material compared with other collecting fields. The ratio literally can be hundreds or even thousands to one. I also suspect the leg irons were sold with a small or with no reserve, sold because they were with other, recognised and widely desirable, items. In other words, I doubt this auction house would have sought this restraint as it would a painting, a lamp, a tea service or jewellery.

Mark,

From the map of Nantucket on Osona's site, there is a Coffin Street. Perhaps the "coffin home" to which the seller refers was or is an house on that street.



Bruce, of course, is correct about persons being loathe to admit their mistakes. More the pity -- they miss excellent opportunities to learn, all at the unwarranted expense of others.

Cheers,

Jack
http://www.editing.org.uk/tanis/collectibles.htm
The Amazing Michael 08 Mar 2011
#16
Here is a new twist. I never heard this fictitious line before.

We all have leg irons in our collections that must have been used on Pirates, cattle rustlers from the old west, Chicago Mobsters, or cuffs from an old European dungeon.
Here is your chance to obtain leg irons from the Old Nantucket Jail that most likely "held it's share of drunken whalers over the years".

I am glad that the Manor House Antiques Co-operative at 31 1/2 Centre St. on Nantucket Island is offering such quality pieces to the Island's visitors and now to the world via eBay. If you missed buying these leg irons from the great Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s, you now have a second chance.
What a great provider of historical relics this shop is!

Of course, I am being sarcastic in the above.
I believe this rip-off company knows they are selling garbage to the world as their rent must be very expensive.
They advertise this junk cuff as being legitimate but state that they are "definitely old style".
This line is the ONLY factual statement in their description and is designed to allow them to weasel themselves into claiming they disclosed some truth about them. How they can defend their position that they are dated from the 1700's lends credence to their willingness to deceive their own customers. A whale of a tale!

I recommend visiting Nantucket as it is a beautiful tourist mecca, but avoid the Manor House Antique Co-operative at all costs. A purchase from them could spoil your vacation.

Here is their description:
From Nantucket Island I bring you a rare piece of Nantucket memorabilia: a great pair of handcufffs dating from the 1700s from the Old Nantucket Jail. Purchased from Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s this is a very rare find. these are definitely old style and probably held it's share of drunken whalers over the years. Still in great condition . Our retail store is open 9 months a year at 31 1/2 Centre Street and called Manor House Antiques Co-operative and by app't during the winter months. Feel free to write to us at dlplace@comcast.net or call us during normal hours at (508)333-9100 to view any item live on camera through our laptop computer(I shall need advance notice to do this as plates are in safe keeping for now. We have over 8,400 items currently for sale. You may also contact us on skype at davidplace75 to view the item.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nantucket-Old-Jail- ... 53e675c796


mark
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"More the pity -- they miss excellent opportunities to learn, all at the unwarranted expense of others."

Thank you Jack.....my thoughts exactly!

I saw a pair of horse hobbles identical to these when I was in Salem, Mass. last year. The guy claimed they were recovered from the Old Salem Witch Dungeon that was unearthed by accident in the 1950's. I told him what they were and where they more likely from and he got that "hmmmmm" look on his face. He then asked me to make him an offer.......I declined. He asked me again with a little more conviction, "Come on, MAKE ME AN OFFER!" I said that I wouldn't offer him the $15.00 that they may in fact be worth, I wouldn't even offer him $5.00, I plain and simply didn't want them. I suspect that when I walked back through his store to get back to my car he was waiting for me to throw a low ball offer at him but I just said, "Have a nice day". I hope that alone sent a message.

Cheers, Mike D~C/
clcl 09 Mar 2011
#17
Here is a new twist. I never heard this fictitious line before.

We all have leg irons in our collections that must have been used on Pirates, cattle rustlers from the old west, Chicago Mobsters, or cuffs from an old European dungeon.
Here is your chance to obtain leg irons from the Old Nantucket Jail that most likely "held it's share of drunken whalers over the years".

I am glad that the Manor House Antiques Co-operative at 31 1/2 Centre St. on Nantucket Island is offering such quality pieces to the Island's visitors and now to the world via eBay. If you missed buying these leg irons from the great Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s, you now have a second chance.
What a great provider of historical relics this shop is!

Of course, I am being sarcastic in the above.
I believe this rip-off company knows they are selling garbage to the world as their rent must be very expensive.
They advertise this junk cuff as being legitimate but state that they are "definitely old style".
This line is the ONLY factual statement in their description and is designed to allow them to weasel themselves into claiming they disclosed some truth about them. How they can defend their position that they are dated from the 1700's lends credence to their willingness to deceive their own customers. A whale of a tale!

I recommend visiting Nantucket as it is a beautiful tourist mecca, but avoid the Manor House Antique Co-operative at all costs. A purchase from them could spoil your vacation.

Here is their description:
From Nantucket Island I bring you a rare piece of Nantucket memorabilia: a great pair of handcufffs dating from the 1700s from the Old Nantucket Jail. Purchased from Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s this is a very rare find. these are definitely old style and probably held it's share of drunken whalers over the years. Still in great condition . Our retail store is open 9 months a year at 31 1/2 Centre Street and called Manor House Antiques Co-operative and by app't during the winter months. Feel free to write to us at dlplace@comcast.net or call us during normal hours at (508)333-9100 to view any item live on camera through our laptop computer(I shall need advance notice to do this as plates are in safe keeping for now. We have over 8,400 items currently for sale. You may also contact us on skype at davidplace75 to view the item.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nantucket-Old-Jail- ... 53e675c796


mark
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Bonjour à tous,
Vers 1980, beaucoup de ces modèles étaient vendus à Paris (sex shops) comme provenant du Mexique.
CLCL
Anonymous 09 Mar 2011
#18
Here is a new twist. I never heard this fictitious line before.

We all have leg irons in our collections that must have been used on Pirates, cattle rustlers from the old west, Chicago Mobsters, or cuffs from an old European dungeon.
Here is your chance to obtain leg irons from the Old Nantucket Jail that most likely "held it's share of drunken whalers over the years".

I am glad that the Manor House Antiques Co-operative at 31 1/2 Centre St. on Nantucket Island is offering such quality pieces to the Island's visitors and now to the world via eBay. If you missed buying these leg irons from the great Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s, you now have a second chance.
What a great provider of historical relics this shop is!

Of course, I am being sarcastic in the above.
I believe this rip-off company knows they are selling garbage to the world as their rent must be very expensive.
They advertise this junk cuff as being legitimate but state that they are "definitely old style".
This line is the ONLY factual statement in their description and is designed to allow them to weasel themselves into claiming they disclosed some truth about them. How they can defend their position that they are dated from the 1700's lends credence to their willingness to deceive their own customers. A whale of a tale!

I recommend visiting Nantucket as it is a beautiful tourist mecca, but avoid the Manor House Antique Co-operative at all costs. A purchase from them could spoil your vacation.

Here is their description:
From Nantucket Island I bring you a rare piece of Nantucket memorabilia: a great pair of handcufffs dating from the 1700s from the Old Nantucket Jail. Purchased from Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s this is a very rare find. these are definitely old style and probably held it's share of drunken whalers over the years. Still in great condition . Our retail store is open 9 months a year at 31 1/2 Centre Street and called Manor House Antiques Co-operative and by app't during the winter months. Feel free to write to us at dlplace@comcast.net or call us during normal hours at (508)333-9100 to view any item live on camera through our laptop computer(I shall need advance notice to do this as plates are in safe keeping for now. We have over 8,400 items currently for sale. You may also contact us on skype at davidplace75 to view the item.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nantucket-Old-Jail- ... 53e675c796


mark
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Hello to all, About 1980, a lot of these models were sold to Paris (sex shops) as originating of Mexico. CLCL
Anon 10 Mar 2011
#19
Here is a new twist. I never heard this fictitious line before.

We all have leg irons in our collections that must have been used on Pirates, cattle rustlers from the old west, Chicago Mobsters, or cuffs from an old European dungeon.
Here is your chance to obtain leg irons from the Old Nantucket Jail that most likely "held it's share of drunken whalers over the years".

I am glad that the Manor House Antiques Co-operative at 31 1/2 Centre St. on Nantucket Island is offering such quality pieces to the Island's visitors and now to the world via eBay. If you missed buying these leg irons from the great Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s, you now have a second chance.
What a great provider of historical relics this shop is!

Of course, I am being sarcastic in the above.
I believe this rip-off company knows they are selling garbage to the world as their rent must be very expensive.
They advertise this junk cuff as being legitimate but state that they are "definitely old style".
This line is the ONLY factual statement in their description and is designed to allow them to weasel themselves into claiming they disclosed some truth about them. How they can defend their position that they are dated from the 1700's lends credence to their willingness to deceive their own customers. A whale of a tale!

I recommend visiting Nantucket as it is a beautiful tourist mecca, but avoid the Manor House Antique Co-operative at all costs. A purchase from them could spoil your vacation.

Here is their description:
From Nantucket Island I bring you a rare piece of Nantucket memorabilia: a great pair of handcufffs dating from the 1700s from the Old Nantucket Jail. Purchased from Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s this is a very rare find. these are definitely old style and probably held it's share of drunken whalers over the years. Still in great condition . Our retail store is open 9 months a year at 31 1/2 Centre Street and called Manor House Antiques Co-operative and by app't during the winter months. Feel free to write to us at dlplace@comcast.net or call us during normal hours at (508)333-9100 to view any item live on camera through our laptop computer(I shall need advance notice to do this as plates are in safe keeping for now. We have over 8,400 items currently for sale. You may also contact us on skype at davidplace75 to view the item.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nantucket-Old-Jail- ... 53e675c796


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CLCL's comment seems to accurately "Sum up" this hobby!!!!!
Dorson 10 Mar 2011
#20
Here is a new twist. I never heard this fictitious line before.

We all have leg irons in our collections that must have been used on Pirates, cattle rustlers from the old west, Chicago Mobsters, or cuffs from an old European dungeon.
Here is your chance to obtain leg irons from the Old Nantucket Jail that most likely "held it's share of drunken whalers over the years".

I am glad that the Manor House Antiques Co-operative at 31 1/2 Centre St. on Nantucket Island is offering such quality pieces to the Island's visitors and now to the world via eBay. If you missed buying these leg irons from the great Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s, you now have a second chance.
What a great provider of historical relics this shop is!

Of course, I am being sarcastic in the above.
I believe this rip-off company knows they are selling garbage to the world as their rent must be very expensive.
They advertise this junk cuff as being legitimate but state that they are "definitely old style".
This line is the ONLY factual statement in their description and is designed to allow them to weasel themselves into claiming they disclosed some truth about them. How they can defend their position that they are dated from the 1700's lends credence to their willingness to deceive their own customers. A whale of a tale!

I recommend visiting Nantucket as it is a beautiful tourist mecca, but avoid the Manor House Antique Co-operative at all costs. A purchase from them could spoil your vacation.

Here is their description:
From Nantucket Island I bring you a rare piece of Nantucket memorabilia: a great pair of handcufffs dating from the 1700s from the Old Nantucket Jail. Purchased from Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s this is a very rare find. these are definitely old style and probably held it's share of drunken whalers over the years. Still in great condition . Our retail store is open 9 months a year at 31 1/2 Centre Street and called Manor House Antiques Co-operative and by app't during the winter months. Feel free to write to us at dlplace@comcast.net or call us during normal hours at (508)333-9100 to view any item live on camera through our laptop computer(I shall need advance notice to do this as plates are in safe keeping for now. We have over 8,400 items currently for sale. You may also contact us on skype at davidplace75 to view the item.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nantucket-Old-Jail- ... 53e675c796


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Back in the 70's while in San Francisco down around the wharf area in some Bazaar Bazaar place there. They had alot of stuff from India and surrounding area and they were selling these as horse hobbles. And not just one'sies but a whole bin full of these...
Edgeplay_Cgo 10 Mar 2011
#21
Here is a new twist. I never heard this fictitious line before.

We all have leg irons in our collections that must have been used on Pirates, cattle rustlers from the old west, Chicago Mobsters, or cuffs from an old European dungeon.
Here is your chance to obtain leg irons from the Old Nantucket Jail that most likely "held it's share of drunken whalers over the years".

I am glad that the Manor House Antiques Co-operative at 31 1/2 Centre St. on Nantucket Island is offering such quality pieces to the Island's visitors and now to the world via eBay. If you missed buying these leg irons from the great Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s, you now have a second chance.
What a great provider of historical relics this shop is!

Of course, I am being sarcastic in the above.
I believe this rip-off company knows they are selling garbage to the world as their rent must be very expensive.
They advertise this junk cuff as being legitimate but state that they are "definitely old style".
This line is the ONLY factual statement in their description and is designed to allow them to weasel themselves into claiming they disclosed some truth about them. How they can defend their position that they are dated from the 1700's lends credence to their willingness to deceive their own customers. A whale of a tale!

I recommend visiting Nantucket as it is a beautiful tourist mecca, but avoid the Manor House Antique Co-operative at all costs. A purchase from them could spoil your vacation.

Here is their description:
From Nantucket Island I bring you a rare piece of Nantucket memorabilia: a great pair of handcufffs dating from the 1700s from the Old Nantucket Jail. Purchased from Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s this is a very rare find. these are definitely old style and probably held it's share of drunken whalers over the years. Still in great condition . Our retail store is open 9 months a year at 31 1/2 Centre Street and called Manor House Antiques Co-operative and by app't during the winter months. Feel free to write to us at dlplace@comcast.net or call us during normal hours at (508)333-9100 to view any item live on camera through our laptop computer(I shall need advance notice to do this as plates are in safe keeping for now. We have over 8,400 items currently for sale. You may also contact us on skype at davidplace75 to view the item.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nantucket-Old-Jail- ... 53e675c796


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There's a couple of importers who wholesale them for about ten bucks a pair.
Atame 10 Mar 2011
#22
Here is a new twist. I never heard this fictitious line before.

We all have leg irons in our collections that must have been used on Pirates, cattle rustlers from the old west, Chicago Mobsters, or cuffs from an old European dungeon.
Here is your chance to obtain leg irons from the Old Nantucket Jail that most likely "held it's share of drunken whalers over the years".

I am glad that the Manor House Antiques Co-operative at 31 1/2 Centre St. on Nantucket Island is offering such quality pieces to the Island's visitors and now to the world via eBay. If you missed buying these leg irons from the great Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s, you now have a second chance.
What a great provider of historical relics this shop is!

Of course, I am being sarcastic in the above.
I believe this rip-off company knows they are selling garbage to the world as their rent must be very expensive.
They advertise this junk cuff as being legitimate but state that they are "definitely old style".
This line is the ONLY factual statement in their description and is designed to allow them to weasel themselves into claiming they disclosed some truth about them. How they can defend their position that they are dated from the 1700's lends credence to their willingness to deceive their own customers. A whale of a tale!

I recommend visiting Nantucket as it is a beautiful tourist mecca, but avoid the Manor House Antique Co-operative at all costs. A purchase from them could spoil your vacation.

Here is their description:
From Nantucket Island I bring you a rare piece of Nantucket memorabilia: a great pair of handcufffs dating from the 1700s from the Old Nantucket Jail. Purchased from Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s this is a very rare find. these are definitely old style and probably held it's share of drunken whalers over the years. Still in great condition . Our retail store is open 9 months a year at 31 1/2 Centre Street and called Manor House Antiques Co-operative and by app't during the winter months. Feel free to write to us at dlplace@comcast.net or call us during normal hours at (508)333-9100 to view any item live on camera through our laptop computer(I shall need advance notice to do this as plates are in safe keeping for now. We have over 8,400 items currently for sale. You may also contact us on skype at davidplace75 to view the item.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nantucket-Old-Jail- ... 53e675c796


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Alltogether now!

What shall we do with a drunken whaler,
What shall we do with a drunken whaler,
What shall we do with a drunken whaler,
Early in the morning?

Hooray, and up she rises,
Hooray, and up she rises,
Hooray, and up she rises,
Early in the morning?

Put him in ugly fetters from India,
Put him in ugly fetters from India,
Put him in ugly fetters from India,
Early in the morning!

That´s what to do with a drunken whaler,
That´s what to do with a drunken whaler,
That´s what to do with a drunken whaler,
Early in the morning!

Best regards,
Guenter
Jack.Tanis 10 Mar 2011
#23
Here is a new twist. I never heard this fictitious line before.

We all have leg irons in our collections that must have been used on Pirates, cattle rustlers from the old west, Chicago Mobsters, or cuffs from an old European dungeon.
Here is your chance to obtain leg irons from the Old Nantucket Jail that most likely "held it's share of drunken whalers over the years".

I am glad that the Manor House Antiques Co-operative at 31 1/2 Centre St. on Nantucket Island is offering such quality pieces to the Island's visitors and now to the world via eBay. If you missed buying these leg irons from the great Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s, you now have a second chance.
What a great provider of historical relics this shop is!

Of course, I am being sarcastic in the above.
I believe this rip-off company knows they are selling garbage to the world as their rent must be very expensive.
They advertise this junk cuff as being legitimate but state that they are "definitely old style".
This line is the ONLY factual statement in their description and is designed to allow them to weasel themselves into claiming they disclosed some truth about them. How they can defend their position that they are dated from the 1700's lends credence to their willingness to deceive their own customers. A whale of a tale!

I recommend visiting Nantucket as it is a beautiful tourist mecca, but avoid the Manor House Antique Co-operative at all costs. A purchase from them could spoil your vacation.

Here is their description:
From Nantucket Island I bring you a rare piece of Nantucket memorabilia: a great pair of handcufffs dating from the 1700s from the Old Nantucket Jail. Purchased from Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s this is a very rare find. these are definitely old style and probably held it's share of drunken whalers over the years. Still in great condition . Our retail store is open 9 months a year at 31 1/2 Centre Street and called Manor House Antiques Co-operative and by app't during the winter months. Feel free to write to us at dlplace@comcast.net or call us during normal hours at (508)333-9100 to view any item live on camera through our laptop computer(I shall need advance notice to do this as plates are in safe keeping for now. We have over 8,400 items currently for sale. You may also contact us on skype at davidplace75 to view the item.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nantucket-Old-Jail- ... 53e675c796


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Dear Guenter,

Yes, 100 kilos of ugly fetter from India, then give him the choice between treading water or being turned over to Paul Watson's Sea Shepherd Conservation Society.

Cheers,

Jack
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Ron Spitz 11 Mar 2011
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Here is a new twist. I never heard this fictitious line before.

We all have leg irons in our collections that must have been used on Pirates, cattle rustlers from the old west, Chicago Mobsters, or cuffs from an old European dungeon.
Here is your chance to obtain leg irons from the Old Nantucket Jail that most likely "held it's share of drunken whalers over the years".

I am glad that the Manor House Antiques Co-operative at 31 1/2 Centre St. on Nantucket Island is offering such quality pieces to the Island's visitors and now to the world via eBay. If you missed buying these leg irons from the great Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s, you now have a second chance.
What a great provider of historical relics this shop is!

Of course, I am being sarcastic in the above.
I believe this rip-off company knows they are selling garbage to the world as their rent must be very expensive.
They advertise this junk cuff as being legitimate but state that they are "definitely old style".
This line is the ONLY factual statement in their description and is designed to allow them to weasel themselves into claiming they disclosed some truth about them. How they can defend their position that they are dated from the 1700's lends credence to their willingness to deceive their own customers. A whale of a tale!

I recommend visiting Nantucket as it is a beautiful tourist mecca, but avoid the Manor House Antique Co-operative at all costs. A purchase from them could spoil your vacation.

Here is their description:
From Nantucket Island I bring you a rare piece of Nantucket memorabilia: a great pair of handcufffs dating from the 1700s from the Old Nantucket Jail. Purchased from Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s this is a very rare find. these are definitely old style and probably held it's share of drunken whalers over the years. Still in great condition . Our retail store is open 9 months a year at 31 1/2 Centre Street and called Manor House Antiques Co-operative and by app't during the winter months. Feel free to write to us at dlplace@comcast.net or call us during normal hours at (508)333-9100 to view any item live on camera through our laptop computer(I shall need advance notice to do this as plates are in safe keeping for now. We have over 8,400 items currently for sale. You may also contact us on skype at davidplace75 to view the item.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nantucket-Old-Jail- ... 53e675c796


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Years ago I met a guy who bought a crate of these wonderful irons form India. It was in the 1970's and his cost was 25 cents each.

Nice mark up and the early quality was a bit better.

Ron
Anonymous 11 Mar 2011
#25
Here is a new twist. I never heard this fictitious line before.

We all have leg irons in our collections that must have been used on Pirates, cattle rustlers from the old west, Chicago Mobsters, or cuffs from an old European dungeon.
Here is your chance to obtain leg irons from the Old Nantucket Jail that most likely "held it's share of drunken whalers over the years".

I am glad that the Manor House Antiques Co-operative at 31 1/2 Centre St. on Nantucket Island is offering such quality pieces to the Island's visitors and now to the world via eBay. If you missed buying these leg irons from the great Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s, you now have a second chance.
What a great provider of historical relics this shop is!

Of course, I am being sarcastic in the above.
I believe this rip-off company knows they are selling garbage to the world as their rent must be very expensive.
They advertise this junk cuff as being legitimate but state that they are "definitely old style".
This line is the ONLY factual statement in their description and is designed to allow them to weasel themselves into claiming they disclosed some truth about them. How they can defend their position that they are dated from the 1700's lends credence to their willingness to deceive their own customers. A whale of a tale!

I recommend visiting Nantucket as it is a beautiful tourist mecca, but avoid the Manor House Antique Co-operative at all costs. A purchase from them could spoil your vacation.

Here is their description:
From Nantucket Island I bring you a rare piece of Nantucket memorabilia: a great pair of handcufffs dating from the 1700s from the Old Nantucket Jail. Purchased from Rafael Osona Auctions in the 1980s this is a very rare find. these are definitely old style and probably held it's share of drunken whalers over the years. Still in great condition . Our retail store is open 9 months a year at 31 1/2 Centre Street and called Manor House Antiques Co-operative and by app't during the winter months. Feel free to write to us at dlplace@comcast.net or call us during normal hours at (508)333-9100 to view any item live on camera through our laptop computer(I shall need advance notice to do this as plates are in safe keeping for now. We have over 8,400 items currently for sale. You may also contact us on skype at davidplace75 to view the item.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nantucket-Old-Jail- ... 53e675c796


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Guenters song set to Edelweiss

Edelweiss, Edelweiss

Every morning you greet me
Small and white clean and bright
You look happy to meet me
Blossom of snow may you bloom and grow
Bloom and grow forever
Edelweiss,Edelweiss
Bless my homeland forever.

DRUNK SEA CAPTAIN, MARIA, THE CHILDREN AND CHORUS:
Raise your glass and have a drink
The whale got caught, I think
Too close to the bluffs
They'll lock me in cuffs
I'm too drunk to tell
So I'm going to hell