Need some suggestions for what to get next

Got a question for the collectors. I mainly like the swing through design cuffs and really like the cuffs that are better than average or more secure or advanced etc then the average american cuffs.

What are some good cuffs to add to my collection? How are trilocks? I know the gotchas are great but those are VERY elusive.

The saf-locks are on my list but a little pricey right now.

Tim

Try the Alcyon or Fury models 15900 and 15901......swing-thru, high security, and unique. You see them on eBay once in a while and Cuffsland also carries one of the models in their "Collector's Corner".http://www.cuffsland.com/

Cheers, Mike D~C/

Got a question for the collectors. I mainly like the swing through design cuffs and really like the cuffs that are better than average or more secure or advanced etc then the average american cuffs.

What are some good cuffs to add to my collection? How are trilocks? I know the gotchas are great but those are VERY elusive.

The saf-locks are on my list but a little pricey right now.

Tim

If your budget is limited for now you can't go wrong collecting the Made in England Hiatts that were mass produced and can still be found on eBay relatively inexpensively.

You can pick up pretty much the whole family from the Model 2010 standard cuff, 2050 hinged cuff, 5000 leg irons, and other models.

The one problem with Sellers out of Canada and England is that generally the cuffs they offer have the Serial Numbers ground off since the items were "decommissioned" property.

But as for security and tight variances the Hiatts Made in England are a quality item for any collection. Of course the cuffs have very sharp edges and got a bad rap from the lawsuits produced from criminals who had their wrists cut up. Of course that goes back to cops who tightened them down too tight.

Good Luck

Got a question for the collectors. I mainly like the swing through design cuffs and really like the cuffs that are better than average or more secure or advanced etc then the average american cuffs.

What are some good cuffs to add to my collection? How are trilocks? I know the gotchas are great but those are VERY elusive.

The saf-locks are on my list but a little pricey right now.

Tim

I've got the Hiatts and I like those alot. I like to concentrate chain models as well. Don't know why but the hinged versions never interested me alot.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Got a question for the collectors. I mainly like the swing through design cuffs and really like the cuffs that are better than average or more secure or advanced etc then the average american cuffs.

What are some good cuffs to add to my collection? How are trilocks? I know the gotchas are great but those are VERY elusive.

The saf-locks are on my list but a little pricey right now.

Tim

How common is it to have "ground down" serial numbers on British Hiatt cuffs over here in the US?
I have about a dozen but none of mine have the serial numbers ground out.
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Got a question for the collectors. I mainly like the swing through design cuffs and really like the cuffs that are better than average or more secure or advanced etc then the average american cuffs.

What are some good cuffs to add to my collection? How are trilocks? I know the gotchas are great but those are VERY elusive.

The saf-locks are on my list but a little pricey right now.

Tim

I agree with you Eric, none of the stuff I have gotten from the UK that was in service had serial numbers ground off.

Got a question for the collectors. I mainly like the swing through design cuffs and really like the cuffs that are better than average or more secure or advanced etc then the average american cuffs.

What are some good cuffs to add to my collection? How are trilocks? I know the gotchas are great but those are VERY elusive.

The saf-locks are on my list but a little pricey right now.

Tim

You might want to get a representative example of the two key French Rivolier (or their copies,) if you don't already have one & the Hiatt HSS9 two key model. They would be reasonably priced. Also, your collection could include one of the higher end Clejuso products like the Model 9. To illustrate the quest for a higher security restraint, I'd add a "blue box" to the collection and maybe a BOA handcuff retrofit.

Have Fun!

Got a question for the collectors. I mainly like the swing through design cuffs and really like the cuffs that are better than average or more secure or advanced etc then the average american cuffs.

What are some good cuffs to add to my collection? How are trilocks? I know the gotchas are great but those are VERY elusive.

The saf-locks are on my list but a little pricey right now.

Tim

Tim,

How 'bout some Czech Ralkem 9921 cuffs for your swing-thru collection.
They carry the full line of Alfa Proj @ Cuffsland.


Happy collecting!

Jason

Got a question for the collectors. I mainly like the swing through design cuffs and really like the cuffs that are better than average or more secure or advanced etc then the average american cuffs.

What are some good cuffs to add to my collection? How are trilocks? I know the gotchas are great but those are VERY elusive.

The saf-locks are on my list but a little pricey right now.

Tim

Thanks for the suggestions guys! I'll take a look at those.

I have to say the Bonowi trilocks are very impressive.

Tim

Got a question for the collectors. I mainly like the swing through design cuffs and really like the cuffs that are better than average or more secure or advanced etc then the average american cuffs.

What are some good cuffs to add to my collection? How are trilocks? I know the gotchas are great but those are VERY elusive.

The saf-locks are on my list but a little pricey right now.

Tim

This is the first time I've seen these, and I'm impressed that they were constructed sans exposed rivets.
The long overdue new European standards will hopefully inspire some innovative designs and heightened security in the industry.

Last year we reviewed the Clejuso model 9 here on the forum.
Amongst other improvements, Clejuso finally incorporated stainless steel links and swivels on their stainless steel model.

Ever notice how the model 12 uses the model 11 linkage?


Jason

Got a question for the collectors. I mainly like the swing through design cuffs and really like the cuffs that are better than average or more secure or advanced etc then the average american cuffs.

What are some good cuffs to add to my collection? How are trilocks? I know the gotchas are great but those are VERY elusive.

The saf-locks are on my list but a little pricey right now.

Tim

Hello,
i have the Bonowi Trilock and ich have also made a cuttoff cuff, so i know how it is build and how the lock works. Hinge is screwed in with glue and the head of screw is grinded flat. On the lock side cheek plates are glued together using 11 bolts in one side and correesponding holes in the other side. Later there will be pictures and a description on my homepage.

It is not easy to pick open the doublelock because small springs act as little hooks catching behind a corner in lock case. There are three springs that must be pushed to the side simultaneously and at the same time pushed back to release doublelock. But it is possible to pick it with a single hook, springs catches not very hard to edge in lock case, but it is not easy. When doulelock is unlocked, cuffs can be shimmed. You need a shim wide enough to lift up all three levers at the same time, similar to Hiatt HSS9 or so, but the shim need not to be split in three parts. You have to bend the shim according roundness of bow to manoever it away from a special edge in lock case. A straight shim will go into this edge and cannot reach levers.

For my first try "onhand" i needed about 7 minutes to pick both doublelocked cuffs, my shim was too narrow to open all three levers but just two, so i had to pick the third lever through keyhole. IMHO Bonowi Trilock has much better quality as any standard handcuff, but it is not a high security cuff. Hiatt HSS9 or Rivolier is better, SAF-LOK is much better and Chubb Escort is the most secure handcuff used by police. Peerless or Smith&Wesson with Cuffmaxx Cylinders (Medeco or Assa Desmo) have good cylinders very difficult to pick (Assa Desmo is more difficult than that Medeco M3) but you can open cuff without opening cylinders...

Best regards

Got a question for the collectors. I mainly like the swing through design cuffs and really like the cuffs that are better than average or more secure or advanced etc then the average american cuffs.

What are some good cuffs to add to my collection? How are trilocks? I know the gotchas are great but those are VERY elusive.

The saf-locks are on my list but a little pricey right now.

Tim

Thank you for the info, Andy-58!

While not a high security cuff, these Tri-Locks sound like they'd be difficult to escape from by the wearer -- especially if they were cuffed behind the back.

The Clejuso model 9 doesn't require multiple leavers to be depressed in order to disengage the double-lock, and as you pointed out previously, shimming works once the cuff is in single lock mode.

Have you experimented with the S&W model 104 as well?

Regards from the USA...

Jason

Got a question for the collectors. I mainly like the swing through design cuffs and really like the cuffs that are better than average or more secure or advanced etc then the average american cuffs.

What are some good cuffs to add to my collection? How are trilocks? I know the gotchas are great but those are VERY elusive.

The saf-locks are on my list but a little pricey right now.

Tim

I have done a lot of work with the S&W model 104.....I found a cool tool to open it in a jiffy. Sorry, can't post this info on the open forum but the tool is very common to most lock guys.

Cheers, Mike D~C/

Got a question for the collectors. I mainly like the swing through design cuffs and really like the cuffs that are better than average or more secure or advanced etc then the average american cuffs.

What are some good cuffs to add to my collection? How are trilocks? I know the gotchas are great but those are VERY elusive.

The saf-locks are on my list but a little pricey right now.

Tim

Greetings Mike!

You divulged this secret in the open forum once, and I know what you used to pick the double-lock. It is well known that the 104 can be shimmed like most other ratchet cuffs in single lock mode.

At least it wasn't a common item such as a paper clip, pen clip (Silence Of The Lambs), hair pin, etc.

Cheers!
Jason

Got a question for the collectors. I mainly like the swing through design cuffs and really like the cuffs that are better than average or more secure or advanced etc then the average american cuffs.

What are some good cuffs to add to my collection? How are trilocks? I know the gotchas are great but those are VERY elusive.

The saf-locks are on my list but a little pricey right now.

Tim

Okay I've added a few more to my collection. I've added another pair of Hiatts, TKS aluminum patrole cuffs, Bonowi Trilock chain model and a pair of UZI's from the local gunshow.

Really like to find a pair of the Gotchas but that may be next to impossible. I might have to have the Chubb Detainer as well. Those look like a nice addition.

Tim

Got a question for the collectors. I mainly like the swing through design cuffs and really like the cuffs that are better than average or more secure or advanced etc then the average american cuffs.

What are some good cuffs to add to my collection? How are trilocks? I know the gotchas are great but those are VERY elusive.

The saf-locks are on my list but a little pricey right now.

Tim

How about some ER Swing-thrus?

Got a question for the collectors. I mainly like the swing through design cuffs and really like the cuffs that are better than average or more secure or advanced etc then the average american cuffs.

What are some good cuffs to add to my collection? How are trilocks? I know the gotchas are great but those are VERY elusive.

The saf-locks are on my list but a little pricey right now.

Tim

Tim,
collect to a theme or you will very soon be broke.

Got a question for the collectors. I mainly like the swing through design cuffs and really like the cuffs that are better than average or more secure or advanced etc then the average american cuffs.

What are some good cuffs to add to my collection? How are trilocks? I know the gotchas are great but those are VERY elusive.

The saf-locks are on my list but a little pricey right now.

Tim

I sorta am. I like the modern swing throughs the best. I have a soft spot for the takeda style cuffs as well as any really nicely made cuffs; exceptional cuffs if you will.

Tim