Here's some cuffs actually marked Takeda

Check out this page:

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/7655515

If you enlarge the 3rd pic you can actually see this cuff is marked "Takeda Co".

I've searched this board many times and nobody ever seemed sure if that was the actual name or not and since I've always had an interest in those cuffs, I thought I'd post that link.

Anybody else got any good pics of these cuffs? Since my first cuffs were Takeda copies, I've always had a soft spot for them.

Tim

Thank you Tim,

I have never seen the name stamped before and had always wondered who and how these cuffs came to be called Takeda.
They are somewhat rare so I also wonder why all the cheap crappy furry and fuzzy cuffs used the Takeda as the model to copy from.
I don't know when the Takeda was first made, but I assume in the 1950's.
One would think the crappy cuffs would have been copied from a Peerless as they probably were around for 30 or so years before the Takeda cuffs first began manufacturing.

Check out this page:

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/7655515

If you enlarge the 3rd pic you can actually see this cuff is marked "Takeda Co".

I've searched this board many times and nobody ever seemed sure if that was the actual name or not and since I've always had an interest in those cuffs, I thought I'd post that link.

Anybody else got any good pics of these cuffs? Since my first cuffs were Takeda copies, I've always had a soft spot for them.

Tim

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Mark,

I had saw in some older threads that nobody really even knew if Takeda was the correct name. Too bad those were in horrible shape.

I'm kinda like you in that I always wondered why the "novelty" cuffs were long based on that style when you consider that it was slightly more complicated than just teeth and some sort of catch.

I'm guessing it had to do with origin. The brass Takeda cuffs or Masuris seemed to be the first then the pressed steel Japanese copies were second (like the PIC cuffs) so it was probably easy to take the design right off the brass ones. Plus if you look at the progression, the design went down in stages so it wasn't straight from the brass welded chain versions down to the brittle zinc garbage. The Japanese pressed steel cuffs were quite solid as were the first Taiwan cuffs although probably slightly less. I've got early Taiwan models from Precise, Valor, and Compass and all are pretty heavy and even though the chain isn't welded, the average male isn't going to come close to pulling them apart.

Then the Taiwan copies seemed to get made of lighter and lighter steel, then the Chinese ones entered the scene with lighter steel, then they got to where you'd see the novelty cuffs that weren't even steel but a brittle zinc material that a magnet won't even stick to and then those even started getting thinner and lighter. Then the wheel disapeared and they got even lighter once again.

The lightest zinc ones I ever had, my son who was 8 at the time snapped them no problem, then physically broke the cuffs into several pieces. One pair I tried to use the key on one time and the locks (I use the term loosely) both broke with one turn of the keys. Also, the keys got progressively smaller.

Anyway, that would be my guess is that it happened in such gradual stages that it made sense at first.


Very interesting how the design has progressed into total trash.

At least now we know that there was indeed a "Takeda" brand cuff.

Tim Tolbert

Check out this page:

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/7655515

If you enlarge the 3rd pic you can actually see this cuff is marked "Takeda Co".

I've searched this board many times and nobody ever seemed sure if that was the actual name or not and since I've always had an interest in those cuffs, I thought I'd post that link.

Anybody else got any good pics of these cuffs? Since my first cuffs were Takeda copies, I've always had a soft spot for them.

Tim

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Yeah I remember the latch as a kid and I got to where my index finger would automatically hold that latch in the correct position.

I wished I still had my originals because they were a type I haven't run into since.

Tim

Check out this page:

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/7655515

If you enlarge the 3rd pic you can actually see this cuff is marked "Takeda Co".

I've searched this board many times and nobody ever seemed sure if that was the actual name or not and since I've always had an interest in those cuffs, I thought I'd post that link.

Anybody else got any good pics of these cuffs? Since my first cuffs were Takeda copies, I've always had a soft spot for them.

Tim

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The actual Takedas hardly ever show up on the bay, though I occasionally have noticed the Japanese Peerless style cuffs listed.

The Japanese also made some interesting brass and more common variety thumbcuffs back in the day.