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Looking for hss9 handcuffs with lock number 118

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Blackburn 21 Mar 2011
#1
I am looking for a set of hss9 handcuffs with lock number 118. Also i was wondering if an existing pair could be re-keyed to match that key. Thanks for any and all input.
Blackburn 23 Mar 2011
#2
That's alright i like being ignored!!!
Dorson 24 Mar 2011
#3
I am looking for a set of hss9 handcuffs with lock number 118. Also i was wondering if an existing pair could be re-keyed to match that key. Thanks for any and all input.
I don't have a set in my collection but if one can remove the pin that holds the core, then one can do some sort of rekeying. If memory serves me and if I am wrong I am sure someone will correct me but I think the lock cores and keys are Lowe & Fletcher.

Lowe & Fletcher Ltd
Moorcroft Drive
Wednesbury, West Midlands
England, WS10 7DE

Tel +44 (0)121 505 0400
Fax +44 (0)121 505 0420

http://www.lowe-and-fletcher.co.uk/
Anonymous 24 Mar 2011
#4
I am looking for a set of hss9 handcuffs with lock number 118. Also i was wondering if an existing pair could be re-keyed to match that key. Thanks for any and all input.
Ever think maybe no one has an answer to your question? How rude coming in here and insulting the members by assuming you are being ignored.
Anonymous 24 Mar 2011
#5
I am looking for a set of hss9 handcuffs with lock number 118. Also i was wondering if an existing pair could be re-keyed to match that key. Thanks for any and all input.
Oh shoot,

I had a 118 in my pocket the whole time
Anonymous 24 Mar 2011
#6
I am looking for a set of hss9 handcuffs with lock number 118. Also i was wondering if an existing pair could be re-keyed to match that key. Thanks for any and all input.
Hey Blackburn, Did you evert think that your attitude could be the reason you get IGNORED!!! Not the response your looking for now is it?
Steve Santini 24 Mar 2011
#7
I am looking for a set of hss9 handcuffs with lock number 118. Also i was wondering if an existing pair could be re-keyed to match that key. Thanks for any and all input.
That Blackburn was polite and considerate. In fact, his inital inquiry ended with the words, "Thanks for any and all input."

Nothing wrong with that at all.

And there is also nothing wrong with people here, if they do not have the info he seeks, coming on here and saying, "Sorry man, can't help you but good luck."

What IS wrong are the endless posts on here from the numerous "annonymous" posters with nothing useful to say yet plenty of rude comments to heap on.

If this is a forum that shares information with people interested in restraints then it should be just that.

Steve Santini

Tremex 24 Mar 2011
#8
I am looking for a set of hss9 handcuffs with lock number 118. Also i was wondering if an existing pair could be re-keyed to match that key. Thanks for any and all input.
Sorry, but on my HSS-9, the keys are made by Manurhin. I don't see any hint for a Lowe & Fletcher origin.
More informations here :
http://www.network54.com/Forum/261154/t ... elp+needed
Dorson 24 Mar 2011
#9
I am looking for a set of hss9 handcuffs with lock number 118. Also i was wondering if an existing pair could be re-keyed to match that key. Thanks for any and all input.
Tremex, check the key blanks and you will find it to be Lowe & Fletcher and Manurhin did not make the lock cores.
Steve Santini 24 Mar 2011
#10
I am looking for a set of hss9 handcuffs with lock number 118. Also i was wondering if an existing pair could be re-keyed to match that key. Thanks for any and all input.
Take them to a locksmith and he will either remove the plugs to rekey them or he will be able to impression them without removing the plugs.

I impressioned a set myself a few years back without having to disassemble them.

Steve Santini
Blackburn 24 Mar 2011
#11
I am looking for a set of hss9 handcuffs with lock number 118. Also i was wondering if an existing pair could be re-keyed to match that key. Thanks for any and all input.
Actually i was just kidding about being ignored. I actually have a sense of humor. Secondly thanks for everyone who responded with a post. And Lastly, the reason i am looking for a set of cuffs with that key number is i purchased a set of hss9-bl1 leg irons and that just happened to be the key number. I was looking for a set of handcuffs so i would have a matching pair. I have several hss9 handcuffs, just none with that particular key. I would be willing to trade a set or purchase outright if anyone USEFUL (not you ANON) has a set with that particular key. Once again, thanks everyone for any and ALL help!!!
Blackburn 25 Mar 2011
#12
I am looking for a set of hss9 handcuffs with lock number 118. Also i was wondering if an existing pair could be re-keyed to match that key. Thanks for any and all input.
it is possible i have found a matching set of lock cores. Now if anyone could help me with the knowledge of how to swap locksets in the handcuffs it would be greatly appreciated.
Dorson 25 Mar 2011
#13
I am looking for a set of hss9 handcuffs with lock number 118. Also i was wondering if an existing pair could be re-keyed to match that key. Thanks for any and all input.
An email address might help also as it could get quite technical....
Blackburn 25 Mar 2011
#14
I am looking for a set of hss9 handcuffs with lock number 118. Also i was wondering if an existing pair could be re-keyed to match that key. Thanks for any and all input.
OK my email is hyperlinked to my name now. I tried researching this online, their just isn't any information for this particular situation. Does it take some sort of special core key to do?
Ian McColl 25 Mar 2011
#15
I am looking for a set of hss9 handcuffs with lock number 118. Also i was wondering if an existing pair could be re-keyed to match that key. Thanks for any and all input.
Hi Blackburn, here is my drawing of the inside of the Hiatt handcuff. The hinge pin needs to be removed so the retaining (roll) pin can be removed, before the barrel (plug) can be slid out. Hope this help.
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Ian
Blackburn 25 Mar 2011
#16
I am looking for a set of hss9 handcuffs with lock number 118. Also i was wondering if an existing pair could be re-keyed to match that key. Thanks for any and all input.
Thanks for the picture Ian. I have successfully removed the hinge pin. Do you have any advice on how to remove the roll pin. Perhaps a long small screw?
holstcollection 25 Mar 2011
#17
I am looking for a set of hss9 handcuffs with lock number 118. Also i was wondering if an existing pair could be re-keyed to match that key. Thanks for any and all input.
Hi Ian,

In spite this cuff is a little out of my field of interest, I must say I'm very impressed
by your superb and coloured drawing. It's almost like a piece of art!

I remember the first drawing you sent me, on a Marlin cuff, several years ago. Like this one,
it was very professionally made and clearly explained all techincal aspects.

Cheers,

Lars
Ian McColl 25 Mar 2011
#18
I am looking for a set of hss9 handcuffs with lock number 118. Also i was wondering if an existing pair could be re-keyed to match that key. Thanks for any and all input.
Hi Blackburn, There are two ways, each frought with some danger. For the first method, it is best if the cylinder is turned 1/4 turn (either way)
Take a sharp (new drill)about a standard size smaller than the hole, I would use a drill press rather than a hand drill, drill into the roll pin, as it is hollow, the drill should grab it ( you should hear the change) and remove the drill, it should bring the pin out with the drill. (It might take a few shots before it happens)

Second method. The barrel or plug has the keyhole open to the circumference, this is normally on the opposite side to where you would see the 'wafers' (Eng) or discs (US). The barrel is trun so that the void of the barrel is under the roll pin, and roll pin is pushed down in the void. When the barrel comes out, remove the roll pin to be used again.

Hope this help.


Ian
Blackburn 27 Mar 2011
#19
I am looking for a set of hss9 handcuffs with lock number 118. Also i was wondering if an existing pair could be re-keyed to match that key. Thanks for any and all input.
You guys rock. Thanks to your help i have successfully re-keyed a pair of my hss9 handcuffs so they work with the same key as my hss9 leg irons. I would especially like to thank Ian Mccoll. Without your help and your cutaway image, i couldn't have done it.
Mark Lyons 27 Mar 2011
#20
I am looking for a set of hss9 handcuffs with lock number 118. Also i was wondering if an existing pair could be re-keyed to match that key. Thanks for any and all input.
Ian,
How do you make that drawing?
I realize you have some software that does it, but maybe you could tell us the process as easily as possible.
It really is professional looking and I would expect that you could do this easily if you had a career in web design or some architectural experience, but I don't think this was the case.
For a locksmith and quasi-mechanical engineer, this is very impressive!


mark
O--O
Ian McColl 27 Mar 2011
#21
I am looking for a set of hss9 handcuffs with lock number 118. Also i was wondering if an existing pair could be re-keyed to match that key. Thanks for any and all input.
Hi Blackburn, thank you for thanking me. It's nice to see someone achieve their goal.
Mark, I use MSPaint, what it cannot do, I fill in with my minds eye.

I cannot use anything to clever, I am a simple hands on type person.

Techo is for the better boffins out there.

Ian