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Mark Lyons 13 May 2011
#1
Here is a new POS that being exported out of OsamaLand.
The eBay seller has clearly labeled these as reproductions so he (or she) ranks high on my MoralMeter.
As we all know, the buyer of these will concoct quite a diatribe when it comes time for him to sell these gems.
The cuffs are of a unique design and credit is due to the inventor.
These babies come with brass tags that read:
O'BRIEN SLAVE TRADING HOUSE
HEALTHY STRONG SLAVES
1858





So, beware what you bid on. Things are not what they seem!


mark
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Nils 13 May 2011
#2

I'm still amazed at athe guy who keeps selling pairs of luggage locks together with an Abus lock as "vintage German handcuffs" on ebay.com. Those things come at a dime a piece, but people keep buying for $30+.
Ian McColl 13 May 2011
#3
Here is a new POS that being exported out of OsamaLand.
The eBay seller has clearly labeled these as reproductions so he (or she) ranks high on my MoralMeter.
As we all know, the buyer of these will concoct quite a diatribe when it comes time for him to sell these gems.
The cuffs are of a unique design and credit is due to the inventor.
These babies come with brass tags that read:
O'BRIEN SLAVE TRADING HOUSE
HEALTHY STRONG SLAVES
1858





So, beware what you bid on. Things are not what they seem!


mark
O--O

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Hi Mark, don't take it so personally. Everyday I see McDonald's ad's on TV and crap for exercise and kitchen products they no-one needs. We live in a world of stupid people. Some people give money to get prays for sick friends who still end up dying or not getting better. Peoeple love spending and feeling good, let em go far it. As long as it is not my money they are spending.

Ian
Vince 14 May 2011
#4
Here is a new POS that being exported out of OsamaLand.
The eBay seller has clearly labeled these as reproductions so he (or she) ranks high on my MoralMeter.
As we all know, the buyer of these will concoct quite a diatribe when it comes time for him to sell these gems.
The cuffs are of a unique design and credit is due to the inventor.
These babies come with brass tags that read:
O'BRIEN SLAVE TRADING HOUSE
HEALTHY STRONG SLAVES
1858





So, beware what you bid on. Things are not what they seem!


mark
O--O

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What's the matter? Only ONE key? Did "Master" forget to burry the other key? Ohhhhhhh - That's right, one locktube - so only one key.
Since eletrowelding was in fashion in the mid 1800's it's a shame someone could'nt fabricate a split-ring keychain to keep both keys together - Tisk Tisk

Now if someone affixes a brass "owner plate" to a pair of 700s, THEN I'll be more inclined to believe they were used on a plantation, pirate ship, spacecraft, or Egyption pyramid!


Sarcastically yours,
--Vince

Paul Davies 14 May 2011
#5
Here is a new POS that being exported out of OsamaLand.
The eBay seller has clearly labeled these as reproductions so he (or she) ranks high on my MoralMeter.
As we all know, the buyer of these will concoct quite a diatribe when it comes time for him to sell these gems.
The cuffs are of a unique design and credit is due to the inventor.
These babies come with brass tags that read:
O'BRIEN SLAVE TRADING HOUSE
HEALTHY STRONG SLAVES
1858





So, beware what you bid on. Things are not what they seem!


mark
O--O

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OK, we think it is crap. It is not aimed at collectors.
It is what it is - a legitimate product for a legitimate market.
If they sell by the 100s then someone must want them.
myleftear 15 Jun 2015
#6
Here is a new POS that being exported out of OsamaLand.
The eBay seller has clearly labeled these as reproductions so he (or she) ranks high on my MoralMeter.
As we all know, the buyer of these will concoct quite a diatribe when it comes time for him to sell these gems.
The cuffs are of a unique design and credit is due to the inventor.
These babies come with brass tags that read:
O'BRIEN SLAVE TRADING HOUSE
HEALTHY STRONG SLAVES
1858





So, beware what you bid on. Things are not what they seem!


mark
O--O

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Hi guys...
I just picked up a set of cuffs much like these at an antique swap meet. They are the cuffs only,no leg irons.
They differ from the above pics in that the shackle (hinged) pieces have 2 grooves,the part that has they hinge on goes onto the cylinder as 2 separate pieces,& the end that is opposite of the key,(like a cap to the cylinder) doesn't have a strait seem ,but material wraps past & overlaps at an angle.The top of this cap piece has punch marks around the face of the seem peening it together. The key has the number 76 & so does one side of the hinged shackle piece.
It also smells exactly like my great great grandfathers gun I have inherited.(an old oil & steel kind of smell)
I was hoping to post the pics to show what i am referring to...Do I need do make a photobucket account?
Thanks for your input...Tom
Unknown / guest 16 Jun 2015
#7
Here is a new POS that being exported out of OsamaLand.
The eBay seller has clearly labeled these as reproductions so he (or she) ranks high on my MoralMeter.
As we all know, the buyer of these will concoct quite a diatribe when it comes time for him to sell these gems.
The cuffs are of a unique design and credit is due to the inventor.
These babies come with brass tags that read:
O'BRIEN SLAVE TRADING HOUSE
HEALTHY STRONG SLAVES
1858





So, beware what you bid on. Things are not what they seem!


mark
O--O

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I'm having a problem uploading pics from photobucket.
Do you have to wait awhile between when you upload them there until you can upload them here?
I'm not great with computers.I did find a site that has the hinge area like myne....
https://anewdayauctions.hibid.com/lot/8 ... -house-tag
Anonymous 16 Jun 2015
#8
Here is a new POS that being exported out of OsamaLand.
The eBay seller has clearly labeled these as reproductions so he (or she) ranks high on my MoralMeter.
As we all know, the buyer of these will concoct quite a diatribe when it comes time for him to sell these gems.
The cuffs are of a unique design and credit is due to the inventor.
These babies come with brass tags that read:
O'BRIEN SLAVE TRADING HOUSE
HEALTHY STRONG SLAVES
1858





So, beware what you bid on. Things are not what they seem!


mark
O--O

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Osama land?? Where is that name on a geographical map?
Anonymous 16 Jun 2015
#9
Here is a new POS that being exported out of OsamaLand.
The eBay seller has clearly labeled these as reproductions so he (or she) ranks high on my MoralMeter.
As we all know, the buyer of these will concoct quite a diatribe when it comes time for him to sell these gems.
The cuffs are of a unique design and credit is due to the inventor.
These babies come with brass tags that read:
O'BRIEN SLAVE TRADING HOUSE
HEALTHY STRONG SLAVES
1858





So, beware what you bid on. Things are not what they seem!


mark
O--O

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Osamaland, good one.

I'm afraid the frame is worth more than the cuffs. I don't see how auction houses fall for that crap. The brass tag really is "buy-me-I'm-old-and-valuable" in your face dishonest.

Nils
myleftear 16 Jun 2015
#10
Here is a new POS that being exported out of OsamaLand.
The eBay seller has clearly labeled these as reproductions so he (or she) ranks high on my MoralMeter.
As we all know, the buyer of these will concoct quite a diatribe when it comes time for him to sell these gems.
The cuffs are of a unique design and credit is due to the inventor.
These babies come with brass tags that read:
O'BRIEN SLAVE TRADING HOUSE
HEALTHY STRONG SLAVES
1858





So, beware what you bid on. Things are not what they seem!


mark
O--O

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so were none ever made... & all are repos?
If you look at the pics above,the piece that the hinges are set in is a flat one piece unit.
The auction house piece is constructed differently,2 pieces that overlap.
Are both fakes?
Thx...Tom
PaulReardon 17 Jun 2015
#11
Here is a new POS that being exported out of OsamaLand.
The eBay seller has clearly labeled these as reproductions so he (or she) ranks high on my MoralMeter.
As we all know, the buyer of these will concoct quite a diatribe when it comes time for him to sell these gems.
The cuffs are of a unique design and credit is due to the inventor.
These babies come with brass tags that read:
O'BRIEN SLAVE TRADING HOUSE
HEALTHY STRONG SLAVES
1858





So, beware what you bid on. Things are not what they seem!


mark
O--O

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Tom they are both bogus.
myleftear 17 Jun 2015
#12
Here is a new POS that being exported out of OsamaLand.
The eBay seller has clearly labeled these as reproductions so he (or she) ranks high on my MoralMeter.
As we all know, the buyer of these will concoct quite a diatribe when it comes time for him to sell these gems.
The cuffs are of a unique design and credit is due to the inventor.
These babies come with brass tags that read:
O'BRIEN SLAVE TRADING HOUSE
HEALTHY STRONG SLAVES
1858





So, beware what you bid on. Things are not what they seem!


mark
O--O

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Thanks for your input...this is the 1st set of cuffs Ive ever bought....dont know anything about handcuffs.What is it that is so evident...The brass tag?,The construction?
I would like an education on how to spot repos.
Thanks for your input...Tom
ronspitz 17 Jun 2015
#13
Here is a new POS that being exported out of OsamaLand.
The eBay seller has clearly labeled these as reproductions so he (or she) ranks high on my MoralMeter.
As we all know, the buyer of these will concoct quite a diatribe when it comes time for him to sell these gems.
The cuffs are of a unique design and credit is due to the inventor.
These babies come with brass tags that read:
O'BRIEN SLAVE TRADING HOUSE
HEALTHY STRONG SLAVES
1858





So, beware what you bid on. Things are not what they seem!


mark
O--O

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Over the years eBay has been flooded with reproduction handcuffs, slave badges and other slave and Civil War items. The vast majority are modern reproductions being represented as original. I know of no handcuffs that were ever labeled with a tag describing its use either slave, prison or civil war.

There are only a few slave tags or badges known to exist and they are well documented and cataloged. Heritage Auctions had an auction on May 18, 2015 in which there were five slave badges for sale along with many other items. They were from the Isaac Rudman Collection. If you are interested here is the link to the auction results with great pictures and descriptions of these real badges.

http://historical.ha.com/c/search-resul ... kNotSold=0

You can compare them with the fakes on eBay. Hope this information is useful.

Ron
Mark Lyons 17 Jun 2015
#14
Here is a new POS that being exported out of OsamaLand.
The eBay seller has clearly labeled these as reproductions so he (or she) ranks high on my MoralMeter.
As we all know, the buyer of these will concoct quite a diatribe when it comes time for him to sell these gems.
The cuffs are of a unique design and credit is due to the inventor.
These babies come with brass tags that read:
O'BRIEN SLAVE TRADING HOUSE
HEALTHY STRONG SLAVES
1858





So, beware what you bid on. Things are not what they seem!


mark
O--O

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Several years ago, I wrote a guide for eBay about collecting cuffs and more importantly, how to spot fakes.
I have not updated it in some time so all the pictured fizzled away.
The cuff you have is more recent and was never included in the original guide.
The brass tag is the give-away. I think I mentioned that these tags were probably more expensive to make that the cuff, so economically, these cuffs don't make any sense.

If you see a cuff that you are considering, please snap a pic and post it here. You will most likely get advice as to its rarity and price. Be patient sometimes these don't get answered for a day or two.

http://www.ebay.com/gds/HANDCUFF-COLLEC ... 284/g.html


mark
O--O

myleftear 17 Jun 2015
#15
Here is a new POS that being exported out of OsamaLand.
The eBay seller has clearly labeled these as reproductions so he (or she) ranks high on my MoralMeter.
As we all know, the buyer of these will concoct quite a diatribe when it comes time for him to sell these gems.
The cuffs are of a unique design and credit is due to the inventor.
These babies come with brass tags that read:
O'BRIEN SLAVE TRADING HOUSE
HEALTHY STRONG SLAVES
1858





So, beware what you bid on. Things are not what they seem!


mark
O--O

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Thanks for all your help.
Im only out $30,not to bad I guess. They really did a nice job in the construction of these. Any Idea when they started production...& why they would change the method(hinge area ,rolling the top cap,E.T.C.?)
Im a machinist,& can appreciate the work that went into these....but can't figure out why they would change their method.
Thanks for all your help...tom
Unknown / guest 18 Jun 2015
#16
Here is a new POS that being exported out of OsamaLand.
The eBay seller has clearly labeled these as reproductions so he (or she) ranks high on my MoralMeter.
As we all know, the buyer of these will concoct quite a diatribe when it comes time for him to sell these gems.
The cuffs are of a unique design and credit is due to the inventor.
These babies come with brass tags that read:
O'BRIEN SLAVE TRADING HOUSE
HEALTHY STRONG SLAVES
1858





So, beware what you bid on. Things are not what they seem!


mark
O--O

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cool links too...Great info in the "handcuff collecting" literature...Thanks!
Anonymous 18 Jun 2015
#17
Here is a new POS that being exported out of OsamaLand.
The eBay seller has clearly labeled these as reproductions so he (or she) ranks high on my MoralMeter.
As we all know, the buyer of these will concoct quite a diatribe when it comes time for him to sell these gems.
The cuffs are of a unique design and credit is due to the inventor.
These babies come with brass tags that read:
O'BRIEN SLAVE TRADING HOUSE
HEALTHY STRONG SLAVES
1858





So, beware what you bid on. Things are not what they seem!


mark
O--O

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your article says
". Their governments has banned these items because citizens are not allowed to poses police or military items. Some will allow antique handcuffs to be imported and collected, however. The question these folks have is; if a high quality antique is allowed to be kept, what would the difference be if that cuff or a brand new cuff was used to lock someone up in a robbery? They work equally well to restrain a victim. The laws in some countries are frustrating as that example shows. Those living in countries without the restrictions are fortunate to have the right to collect and I encourage people to do so."

You should add that
"The USA doesn't ship cuffs to other countries because now that the world knows the USA tortures people, it doesn't want to be seen to provide others with the tools to do so"
Go USA! 20 Jun 2015
#18
Here is a new POS that being exported out of OsamaLand.
The eBay seller has clearly labeled these as reproductions so he (or she) ranks high on my MoralMeter.
As we all know, the buyer of these will concoct quite a diatribe when it comes time for him to sell these gems.
The cuffs are of a unique design and credit is due to the inventor.
These babies come with brass tags that read:
O'BRIEN SLAVE TRADING HOUSE
HEALTHY STRONG SLAVES
1858





So, beware what you bid on. Things are not what they seem!


mark
O--O

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At 2:58 AM, the drunk buffoon anonymous posts another anti-USA comment. I hope you don't live here in the USA. If you do, get the f*^k out!
Steve Mollett 21 Jun 2015
#19
Here is a new POS that being exported out of OsamaLand.
The eBay seller has clearly labeled these as reproductions so he (or she) ranks high on my MoralMeter.
As we all know, the buyer of these will concoct quite a diatribe when it comes time for him to sell these gems.
The cuffs are of a unique design and credit is due to the inventor.
These babies come with brass tags that read:
O'BRIEN SLAVE TRADING HOUSE
HEALTHY STRONG SLAVES
1858





So, beware what you bid on. Things are not what they seem!


mark
O--O

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Ignoring all the nationalistic posturing, whether pro or con...

These repro manacles may be junk in the collecting sense, but can make useful additions to escapologist's restraint displays, and as escape props (properly sealed to keep from getting rust on everything).

They also serve as cheap, usable props for stage and film use.
ronspitz 21 Jun 2015
#20
Here is a new POS that being exported out of OsamaLand.
The eBay seller has clearly labeled these as reproductions so he (or she) ranks high on my MoralMeter.
As we all know, the buyer of these will concoct quite a diatribe when it comes time for him to sell these gems.
The cuffs are of a unique design and credit is due to the inventor.
These babies come with brass tags that read:
O'BRIEN SLAVE TRADING HOUSE
HEALTHY STRONG SLAVES
1858





So, beware what you bid on. Things are not what they seem!


mark
O--O

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I have no problem with the selling of reproduction cuffs or any other collectables when they are described correctly as a reproduction at a reasonable price. The problem is when they are described as antique, original, and at a very high price. Yes, I know the old saying, "buyer beware", but most of the sellers know they are not original and buyers are being ripped off. Learn something about what you are buying and collecting. Most of us have learned this the hard way.

Ron