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KWabbott 26 Jun 2011
#1
I bought some old handcuffs - old - turn the key in and they unlock. From the pictures on your site looks like 1800's - they have a little plaque on them that reads Colorado Territorial Prison cannon city co. That is it except a 36 branded on the key and one cuff. How do i find the exact age of these.
Joshua 26 Jun 2011
#2
You're gonna have to post a photo to get exact details. I have a bunch of handcuffs that are old and unlock with a key but vary in age. It's possible that they may very well be reproductions as it is not typical to have a plaque (brass Im guessing) attached to a cuff.
KWabbott 26 Jun 2011
#3
I bought some old handcuffs - old - turn the key in and they unlock. From the pictures on your site looks like 1800's - they have a little plaque on them that reads Colorado Territorial Prison cannon city co. That is it except a 36 branded on the key and one cuff. How do i find the exact age of these.
Here give this a shot. These things are pretty wore whatever the history is on them.
Unknown / guest 26 Jun 2011
#4
I bought some old handcuffs - old - turn the key in and they unlock. From the pictures on your site looks like 1800's - they have a little plaque on them that reads Colorado Territorial Prison cannon city co. That is it except a 36 branded on the key and one cuff. How do i find the exact age of these.
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Unknown / guest 26 Jun 2011
#5
I bought some old handcuffs - old - turn the key in and they unlock. From the pictures on your site looks like 1800's - they have a little plaque on them that reads Colorado Territorial Prison cannon city co. That is it except a 36 branded on the key and one cuff. How do i find the exact age of these.
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Bruce Thomson 26 Jun 2011
#6
I bought some old handcuffs - old - turn the key in and they unlock. From the pictures on your site looks like 1800's - they have a little plaque on them that reads Colorado Territorial Prison cannon city co. That is it except a 36 branded on the key and one cuff. How do i find the exact age of these.
Just checked your photos, they are modern repros. Not really desirable to collectors.
Edgeplay_Cgo 27 Jun 2011
#7
I bought some old handcuffs - old - turn the key in and they unlock. From the pictures on your site looks like 1800's - they have a little plaque on them that reads Colorado Territorial Prison cannon city co. That is it except a 36 branded on the key and one cuff. How do i find the exact age of these.
Yep. They're Indian or Pakistani tourist trade repros. The brass tag is a sure giveaway, although the construction of the cuffs is a rock-solid identifier.

They're sold by several vendors for about twenty bucks, retail. I hope you didn't pay a lot.
KWabbott 27 Jun 2011
#8
I bought some old handcuffs - old - turn the key in and they unlock. From the pictures on your site looks like 1800's - they have a little plaque on them that reads Colorado Territorial Prison cannon city co. That is it except a 36 branded on the key and one cuff. How do i find the exact age of these.
Thanks all for the input. I paid very little for them and have no intention on selling them 99.9 % of the people that will view them will think they are what they say they are. They are very old and worn hard. They work. They are a cool piece for the little money I paid.
Ian McColl 27 Jun 2011
#9
I bought some old handcuffs - old - turn the key in and they unlock. From the pictures on your site looks like 1800's - they have a little plaque on them that reads Colorado Territorial Prison cannon city co. That is it except a 36 branded on the key and one cuff. How do i find the exact age of these.
Hi KW, don't let the truth get in the way of the story your cuff will tell or you will allow to be believed.
At least if some of your friends want a pair, you can happily watch them spend their money on a lie, that you allowed to continue.

cheers

Ian
Mark Lyons 27 Jun 2011
#10
I bought some old handcuffs - old - turn the key in and they unlock. From the pictures on your site looks like 1800's - they have a little plaque on them that reads Colorado Territorial Prison cannon city co. That is it except a 36 branded on the key and one cuff. How do i find the exact age of these.
Kw,
I have to agree that your cuff is a modern reproduction cuff.
Almost all reproductions have matching numbered keys and a brass plaques GLUED onto the conical shaped lock tube.
Here is a picture of the actual reproduction padlock that was used to lock the actual repoduction jail door at the actual reproduction jail.

Nils 27 Jun 2011
#11
I bought some old handcuffs - old - turn the key in and they unlock. From the pictures on your site looks like 1800's - they have a little plaque on them that reads Colorado Territorial Prison cannon city co. That is it except a 36 branded on the key and one cuff. How do i find the exact age of these.
"plaque" almost never sounds good ... . If it has even been "aged", and someone tries to sell it off, I would actually consider that fraud.

Anybody interested in authentic Joan of Arc handcuffs? I might have some shackles saying "Spartacus" lying around here somewhere.
KWabbott 27 Jun 2011
#12
I bought some old handcuffs - old - turn the key in and they unlock. From the pictures on your site looks like 1800's - they have a little plaque on them that reads Colorado Territorial Prison cannon city co. That is it except a 36 branded on the key and one cuff. How do i find the exact age of these.
funny stuff but most of you are passionate about your cuffs I like most people are not. We are passionate on old stuff. Again I could care less the real history behind these there is not anyone on this site that knows the history behind these actually cuff. Maybe a bounty hunter from the late 1800's used them to haul in killers- you do not know i do not know. Like I said i paid little to nothing for them and the guy that sold me them knew nothing about their history and if he did he didn't tell me. Someone offers me big bucks I will take it, on the same grounds as I bought them, i know nothing about them. Its the buyers job to research what they buy.
Anonymous 27 Jun 2011
#13
I bought some old handcuffs - old - turn the key in and they unlock. From the pictures on your site looks like 1800's - they have a little plaque on them that reads Colorado Territorial Prison cannon city co. That is it except a 36 branded on the key and one cuff. How do i find the exact age of these.
KW, Your original question was: When were these made? Answer: 2006 (give or take)

If you want to be a crook, pass them off as the genuine thing, go ahead and hurt someone.
If you want to live by the golden rule (as most of us here would do) keep them or sell them for the $25 that they are valued at.
If you are in business, your reputaion demands you to do the right thing. Your customers won't be sticking around if you mess with them.
The Amazing Michael 27 Jun 2011
#14
I bought some old handcuffs - old - turn the key in and they unlock. From the pictures on your site looks like 1800's - they have a little plaque on them that reads Colorado Territorial Prison cannon city co. That is it except a 36 branded on the key and one cuff. How do i find the exact age of these.
"Someone offers me big bucks I will take it, on the same grounds as I bought them, i know nothing about them. Its the buyers job to research what they buy."

You asked the experts about these cuffs and got an answer.....you DO know something about them. They are NOT old, they were NOT used by bounty hunters in the 1800's to haul in killers. If you sell them shrugging your shoulders saying you have no idea about them then you are a crook. Sorry to say. If you sell them as modern reproductions and get big bucks.....GREAT! Tell the truth, the WHOLE truth and nothing but the truth and you will be a good seller/dealer.

Just my opinion.

Cheers, Mike D~C/
Anon456 27 Jun 2011
#15
I bought some old handcuffs - old - turn the key in and they unlock. From the pictures on your site looks like 1800's - they have a little plaque on them that reads Colorado Territorial Prison cannon city co. That is it except a 36 branded on the key and one cuff. How do i find the exact age of these.
Are they still using camel piss to age them these days?
KWabbott 28 Jun 2011
#16
I bought some old handcuffs - old - turn the key in and they unlock. From the pictures on your site looks like 1800's - they have a little plaque on them that reads Colorado Territorial Prison cannon city co. That is it except a 36 branded on the key and one cuff. How do i find the exact age of these.
Anytime anyone post stuff anonymous it is funny to begin with. I have an historian checking them out as I laugh. If you think they were made in 2006 you have to be the biggest idiot in the world and do not know iron and manufacturing. The iron alone is from early 1900s if not late 1800s. They may be reproductions but they are old. The key chamber is so worn and beat up it would have to be played with 24/7 since 2006 to get it in that condition. I will wait for the historian to check them out then I will sell them as is. The cuffs that were put on Billy the Kid.
Ian McColl 28 Jun 2011
#17
I bought some old handcuffs - old - turn the key in and they unlock. From the pictures on your site looks like 1800's - they have a little plaque on them that reads Colorado Territorial Prison cannon city co. That is it except a 36 branded on the key and one cuff. How do i find the exact age of these.


You have now asked and got the right answer, These cuffs are a modern reproduction made in what some would call a third world country . They were made with the same methods and skills as they would have been if made 100 years ago, except the country of origin imported cuffs 100 years and didn't make them. Their sole market is selling to those who don't care and it looks like they have found their mark.
Now that you know the truth, I guess you would not be honest if you sold to anyone without telling them what you have found out.

Ian
The Amazing Michael 28 Jun 2011
#18
I bought some old handcuffs - old - turn the key in and they unlock. From the pictures on your site looks like 1800's - they have a little plaque on them that reads Colorado Territorial Prison cannon city co. That is it except a 36 branded on the key and one cuff. How do i find the exact age of these.
You should take the time to read this little article written by Mark Lyons (antique handcuff and restraint consultant on the hit TV show, Pawn Stars):

http://reviews.ebay.com/HANDCUFF-COLLEC ... 0001203284

BTW, I think it is awesome how that old "wild west glue" is still holding the fake brass tag on the cuff 100 + years later. LMAO!

Cheers, Mike D~C/
The Amazing Michael 28 Jun 2011
#19
I bought some old handcuffs - old - turn the key in and they unlock. From the pictures on your site looks like 1800's - they have a little plaque on them that reads Colorado Territorial Prison cannon city co. That is it except a 36 branded on the key and one cuff. How do i find the exact age of these.
Here is a boatload of FAKES on eBay and there are PLENTY more where these came from.....it only took me 2 minutes to find them.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Cast-Iron-Yuma-Ariz ... 4182020295

http://cgi.ebay.com/CAST-IRON-CANON-CIT ... 3953570550

http://cgi.ebay.com/CAST-IRON-LEG-IRON- ... 1c1cc5ae14

http://cgi.ebay.com/Cast-Iron-Yuma-Ariz ... 5644db686f

http://cgi.ebay.com/Iron-Georgetown-Pla ... 3369072fc7

http://cgi.ebay.com/Cast-Iron-Black-Sla ... 33679a8a84

http://cgi.ebay.com/Civil-War-Slave-Old ... 56449ff510

http://cgi.ebay.com/Civil-War-Slave-Old ... 5642996385

http://cgi.ebay.com/Repro-Antique-Irish ... 25643f9ad2
MAGENTAKEY 28 Jun 2011
#20
I bought some old handcuffs - old - turn the key in and they unlock. From the pictures on your site looks like 1800's - they have a little plaque on them that reads Colorado Territorial Prison cannon city co. That is it except a 36 branded on the key and one cuff. How do i find the exact age of these.
The odds of this person coming back and admitting that the regular posters here were right is about zero ... How many times has this same scenario been played out here in the forum ?
The Amazing Michael 28 Jun 2011
#21
I bought some old handcuffs - old - turn the key in and they unlock. From the pictures on your site looks like 1800's - they have a little plaque on them that reads Colorado Territorial Prison cannon city co. That is it except a 36 branded on the key and one cuff. How do i find the exact age of these.
"How many times has this same scenario been played out here in the forum ?"

Too many times.

Cheers, Mike D~C/
Murrey the Great Houdini Historian 28 Jun 2011
#22
I bought some old handcuffs - old - turn the key in and they unlock. From the pictures on your site looks like 1800's - they have a little plaque on them that reads Colorado Territorial Prison cannon city co. That is it except a 36 branded on the key and one cuff. How do i find the exact age of these.
These darcys were used when Houdini escaped from the Colorado Prison.
He played with them everyday for hours at a time, for many years to get them nicely worn.
Houdini autographed the cuffs on a brass plate which was glued on, but must have fallen off. Epoxy wasn't invented yet and no one knew about rivets.
You can look at the bow edges to see where Houdini banged them against the lead plate he had on his knee to effect his escapes.
Current Value= Half a Million $$$
David Copperfield wants to put them in his vault with the Mirror Cuffs. Contact David and he will send over a check right away!!!

MtGHH