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tim71 04 Sep 2011
#1
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
TMoreCromwell 04 Sep 2011
#2
Tim,

Is it your argument that S&W procduced a Model 90 "high polish" in the early 1960's? I was under the impression that the "chrome" and/or "high polish" designations stopped after 1957/1958 with the creation of the Model 91.

The flyer may be from October 1955 as the buyer stated that there is the number "10-55" on the back.

Perhaps this is a good opportunity for the forum to create a Smith & Wesson Directory (1952-present)? Much like what was attempted to do with Peerless some time ago?

Thomas
Tim 04 Sep 2011
#3
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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I've went back and forth with that also. Joe I believe has a flyer from 58 or 59 that has the model 91 listed but another forum member in an old thread had a "hi polish" 90 that was from the mid 60s.

I'm begining to believe this:

In 1952 the style was like the first pic I showed.

In 1955 or 56, the center detent model was introducted as an improvement. It was available in Nickel, Blue or Chrome.

Very soon after that it was changed to polished Nickel and was called the 91. As evidenced by the "guatemalla" cuff in the history thread a couple weeks ago.

I'm beginning to believe now that the hi-polish 90 and 91 might have co-existed at some points.

If somebody could post some pics of a "high polish" box and cuffs it would help.
TMoreCromwell 04 Sep 2011
#4
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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"I'm beginning to believe now that the hi-polish 90 and 91 might have co-existed at some points."

Perhaps, however, the S&W product lists/catalogs from 1959, 1961, and 1965 only indicate a Model 90 in regular finish of blue or nickel and a Model 91 in polished blue or nickel. What would be the point of having a high polish Model 90 exist at the same time one is selling the Model 91? I'm speaking here of the suggestion that these co-existed in the 1960's after the Model 91 was established and not, say 1958, when there might be some overlap. You could be right, but it doesn't make much sense to me.

Thomas
GB68 04 Sep 2011
#5
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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After a long talk with smith & wesson this was the first handcuff brochure they printed [/IMG] [/IMG]
ChuckII 04 Sep 2011
#6
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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Looking at those 1950s prices of $12 - $14 and figuring inflation, today's Smith & Wesson (and other) cuffs are certainly a bargain!
Anonymous 04 Sep 2011
#7
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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Anonymous 04 Sep 2011
#8
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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SleepyHead,

Turn off your computer, lie down on the couch, turn on the TV, turn on I love Lucy, and don't come back if this S&W talk is boring to you!
tim71 04 Sep 2011
#9
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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Thomas,

Either that, or there's some people on this board who are wrong about having high polish models from the mid 60s and later. Has to be one of the two. I honestly don't know for sure. Everybody who has both a 91 and a high polish say that the 91 is much shinier like more prep work has went into it.

Those pics are super sweet! I assume that's the Chrome model that's in the brochure since the box doesn't have the model number.

Tim
Unknown / guest 04 Sep 2011
#10
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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Thomas,

I copied this from an old thread:

Hi Joseph,
It may have very well been in the early stages. I pulled out a pair of the "High Polish" marked model 90's, and a pair of the marked model 91's, in the respective boxes. The model 91's have a much more "chrome" appearance than the High polish. Might actually be that the model 91 was a slightly different finish than the model 90 high polish, which was basically nothing more than the regular nickle finish that had been machined to a high gleam. I would have to cross reference the serial numbers, but I believe the High Polish 90's are from the late 60's, whereas the model 91's are from my year of birth, 1965. Smith was pretty good at changing styles, finishes, and models back then, based on who actually owned the company and how much money they were putting into it. The quality of a pair of model 90 regular finish from the 50's thru the mid 60's was much better than a pair made in the late 70's, both in fit and finish. The Bangor Punta days were , in my opinion, the worst quality for both the cuffs and the handguns. I can remember sending brand new model 66 revolvers back to the factory because the cylinder was wedged against the frame due to poor fitting and horrendous quality control. They seem to be much better now, but I never have liked the model 100, mainly because of the ugly sintered finish, and the easily manipulated double lock. I have no clue how to be an escape artist, but I do know if you slam the M-100 hard on a desk, they will double lock themselves. Try it sometime on a pair you don't like.
Tim

Here's someone else who seems to think they didn't go exactly in Chronological order.

I posted in the history thread too so check that out and see what you think.

Once again, we need to find out exactly when they went from the smaller center detent model to the later model 90 and 91 style.

Surely somebody has some pics of a high polish model 90 box. What style of box it is would tell us alot.

Tim
Anonymous 04 Sep 2011
#11
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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yes it is boring

it looks like you don't have other cuffs to talk about
Anonymous 04 Sep 2011
#12
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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There is an I Love Lucy episode with nice handcuffs in it. I suggest you spend your time watching it.
TMoreCromwell 04 Sep 2011
#13
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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Tim,
Certainly if someone shows that he has a marked Model 90 "high polish" from the Bangor Punta era, then we would know for certain that such a thing did exist in the late 1960's. But in the absence of that, I'm inclined to think that the needs S&W had after 1958 for a polished Model 90 was met by the Model 91. With the information that I have (not complete or perfect by a long shot and learning new things all the time)I just find it hard to believe of the co-existence of the two during the BP era. I suppose since I have not seen a 1967 or 1968 price sheet or brochure, it is possible that BP produced such a Model 90 high polish during those years and quickly discontinued them.
Thomas
Anonymous 05 Sep 2011
#14
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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There is an I Love Lucy episode with nice handcuffs in it. I suggest you spend your time watching it. why you don't go there

i think you learn there something about other cuffs

or we ask Joe to change the name the Smith & wesson forum

Anonymous 05 Sep 2011
#15
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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Anonymous 05 Sep 2011
#16
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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STOP posting links to ACTIVE ebay auctions!!!!!!!! You people drive the prices up.
Anonymous 05 Sep 2011
#17
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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Anonymous 05 Sep 2011
#18
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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Tom Gross 05 Sep 2011
#19
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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It was written, "It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 ...". Perhaps this refers to the date when S&W began producing handcuffs under its own name. Just so there is no misunderstanding, S&W has been making handcuffs since around 1914, when it produced the very first Peerless handcuffs. And S&W continued to manufacture handcuffs for Peerless for many years thereafter.
tim71 05 Sep 2011
#20
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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Annon,

If this thread doesn't interest you, why come in here? Don't like it? Don't come in.

Tim
Paul Davies 05 Sep 2011
#21
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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Thank you George and Tom for adding some real substance to the "discussion".
The other children should find something better to do.
Jack.Tanis 05 Sep 2011
#22
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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Dear Paul,

A wink and a nod, two thumbs up, thunderous applause and a standing ovation to your second sentence (but don't let it go to your head).

As to your first sentence, we all know who Tom Gross is. He is the fellow who never revised Manacles Of the World for a second, updated edition...or even just reprinted the original book, for that matter! (Tom, copies sell for over $100.) Who is George, though? The fellow who told Lennie "about the rabbits", who chopped down the cherry tree and didn't tell a lie about it, whose guitar gently wept or who wrote Animal Farm and Nineteen Eighty-Four?

Cheers,

Jack
http://www.editing.org.uk/tanis/collectibles.htm
truth teller 05 Sep 2011
#23
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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poor old TOM GROSS. he never did know much about restraints as he just put his pitiful book together from some information that he heard from other sources.. never really researched any thing himself. thus no revised addition or no 2nd book. for being an lawyer he never knew much and apparently still does not. 1914 !! why do the early peerless cuffs made by smith and wesson have a 1912-1915 date on them??
Jack.Tanis 05 Sep 2011
#24
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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Dear truth teller,

George Carney's swing-through handcuff was patented in early 1912. (The application was made in late 1911.) Peerless was founded in 1914 to market its own -- i.e., Carney's -- handcuff, as it had no manufacturing resources or experience. So, in defence of Tom Gross, he states correctly when writing "around 1914" for S&W, which made Peerless cuffs until around 1940. The dates to which you refer in your message are patent years. S&W could not have made Peerless before 1914, as the company did not exist before 1914, although Carney's 1912 patent most surely did. The 1915 patent was an improvement of Carney's design, granted to Joseph Wesson and Edward Pomeroy as assignors to Smith & Wesson.

I further feel I must defend Tom's book. It is a, if not the, seminal book on handcuffs, copies of which really do fetch staggering sums. His "other sources", as you put it, was none other than Michael Busch -- openly and freely credited in the book -- one of the top restraint experts and collectors in the world. I hold Manacles Of the World as the first truly scholarly book written on the subject.

I did not mean for this response to be so lengthy and burden further an already too lengthy thread.

Cheers,

Jack
http://www.editing.org.uk/tanis/collectibles.htm
GB68 05 Sep 2011
#25
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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I lost mine years ago ..sure miss it and would love to have another copy
Tom Gross 05 Sep 2011
#26
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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On the subject of my book, I worked for years on my 2nd edition and then suddenly realized that it wasn't needed. Between Alex Nichols fine books and Stan's CDs and Joe Lauher's Supplements (not to mention this web site itself), anything which I could have written would have been completely superfluous. And the cost would have been pretty high, too. I sold my book for $10, and this was possible only because one of my clients owned a printing company. (As an aside, I still marvel at having watched my book being printed. I brought computer disks to the client's business and they were fed into this giant machine. About a minute later the machine began to spit out copies of the book, fully bound. That's probably nothing compared to today's technology, but I was amazed.) Regrettably, that printer has passed away and the present printing cost would compel a much higher price for my 2nd edition, a book which isn't needed anyway.

Concerning the assertions of "truth teller", I'm reminded of that old saying, "There is a kernel of truth at the heart of every great lie". Michael Busch, a good friend for many years, has one of the finest collections of handcuffs in the world, and knows more about European handcuffs than anybody who has ever lived. I did use many photos which he provided, with his permission of course, and fully credited. And if I had completed my 2nd edition, it would have included lots of photos from Stan Willis, Gordon Gluff, Chris Gower, Chuck Chandler and others, all of which would have been fully credited and used with permission. As foreign as this concept might be to people like "truth teller", there are many people out there who are unselfish and forthcoming, and care about making information freely available to others. By the way, I have privately thanked the above-named individuals many times, for their cooperation and generosity in my research. Now is my opportunity to thank them publicly.

I began to wonder, who knows I'm a lawyer, since I don't advertise the fact. And who just LOVES those capital letters? And who doesn't capitalize the first letter of sentences and frequently runs sentences together and generally ignores the rules of punctuation. That narrowed down the identity of "truth teller" to only one person. Since he is justifiably ashamed of his real name, I won't reveal it here. But this is for you, "truth teller". Do you remember, some years ago at Indy, when I told you to your face that if you ever smarted off to me again I would give you a bitch-slapping? Well, this counts! I just hope you live long enough for us to meet again in person.

GB68 05 Sep 2011
#27
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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Tom you wouldent have a extra copy of the book i lost would you
Tom Gross 05 Sep 2011
#28
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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Hi, GB68. I'm sorry, I don't. I kept a few copies for myself, but as time passed these dwindled. I was put in one position after another where I felt obligated to give away a copy; one here, one there. Finally I had only one left. And then I was invited to appear on German TV, and in a situation where I absolutely HAD to give away my last copy on the air. So there was a time when I didn't even have a copy of my own book. Fortunately, many years ago, I had sold Chuck Chandler a whole box of the books, and he graciously sold one back to me.

But if you have Alex Nichols books, and Joe Lauher's Supplements, and Stan Willis' CD, you don't need my book. But thank you very much for your interest and your kind words.
amazing01 05 Sep 2011
#29
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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I don't have much interest in this thread......just quickly scanned over it to look at the photos and noticed the negative comments. Wow. Annon, if this thread bores you so much, why don't you post something interesting??? I have seen this forum go over two weeks with nothing new or interesting being posted.......if you don't like what is or what is NOT being posted, start a new topic; that's what I do. Take some pics of stuff in your collection and post them or find some pics of stuff on your wish list and start a tread about them. Why rip into people who have an interest in something you consider boring? If you don't like this thread......I can post a bunch of my throwbacks up for sale.......I know how much you trolls love it when I do that! LOL! =)


Cheers, Mike D~C/
Anonymous 05 Sep 2011
#30
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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I thought the center detent models were the first ones S&W sold.
Mark Lyons 05 Sep 2011
#31
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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The Book is now an icon among cuff collectors.
It is a must have to anyone serious about this hobby.
I have always hoped for an amended version or compendium from Tom.
I disagree that another book would be redundant or otherwise, not necessary.
I believe that sales would be greater than the original and the extra cost would be accepted by those wishing to purchase it.
Pat Culliton's book was the most I ever paid for any book and I was happy to pay the bucks for it as it too is a must have. (and for the fact that a picture of my hand is featured in it)
Whether or not Tom wrote or researched all the info in his book is not important to the collector. What is, is the info contained within.
I am not recalling any errors with the content at the moment but as time goes on, errors are made apparent as new reference material is discovered and brought to light.
Another reason why a new book should be produced!
I hope Tom will reconsider his position and perhaps consider a collaboration with Joe L. If agreed, it might allow a future publication to exist with greater ease than it seems currently.


mark
O--O
Joseph Fox 05 Sep 2011
#32
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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My earliest S&W #90 has a serial number of: 7081

If we can find out who here has the earliest serial number in their collection--perhaps we can get a photo of it --just to see the characteristics of the first production-runs of this handcuff.
dltvette 06 Sep 2011
#33
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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My earliest Model 90 serial number is 4388.
Dave
joe tanner 06 Sep 2011
#34
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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TOM GROSS ::: many people know that you are a lawyer !! you are a CROOK & a LIAR as i read your post & you are full of CRAP... I -- DID -- BITCH SLAP YOU !!! at the INDY lock show years ago... IF there are any LOCK collectors that read this forum that were at the INDY show back then -- they know who speaks the TRUTH -- ME !! i ACTUALLY DID call you out at the lock show & what did you say -- LEAVE ME ALONE !! you gutless piece of CRAP....EVERYONE at the INDY show THOUGHT there was going to be a FIGHT - but they were disappointed -- WHY == because you said LEAVE ME ALONE !! and SLEATHERED AWAY !!! after that, you made sure to stayed away from ME where ever i went in the dealers room..... JOE TANNER
Anonymous 06 Sep 2011
#35
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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we need to take you two, cuffed together, to the octogon!
Tom Gross 06 Sep 2011
#36
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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Joe! You mean YOU are "truth teller"? I thought it was somebody completely different. You really threw me off with the pseudonym. I never would have dreamed that it was you or that you would have said such unpleasant things about me. I thought it was that grizzled old fool who got fired from the Post Office for stealing stamps!

But on to more important things.

Mark, hello. Thank you for your kind words. I would like to address some of your points.

Alas, I am highly conscious of errors in my book, even after all these years. I made a mistake about the plating on the Strauss shackles and, can you believe it, I actually included Thompson handcuffs in the American section! Remember, in those days there was no information out there. (The only "authority" was a wretched old fart who kept information to himself until he could exploit it to make a sale and who measured success by the number of new collectors he could cheat in any given 24-hour period. Rumor has it that the only real job he ever held was working for the Post Office, until he got fired for stealing stamps, but I don't know if that is true or not.) But, back to the Thompson handcuffs. I had it in my mind that ALL British darbies were marked with "Warranted Wrought". For some reason, one of my sets of Thompson darbies (probably the only set I had at the time) does NOT have this marking. So when I was looking at it I thought that it could not be British. I wish I could recall every copy of my book and correct those and other errors.

I know that if I were to pursue my 2nd edition I would spend a huge amount of time and space correcting erroneous impressions in my first edition. "In my first edition I said that there were only two variations of this model, but we now know that ....". Like that! It's a whole different world now, largely thanks to Joe Lauher and this web site. So much arcane information appears, sometimes on a daily basis, that it is hard to keep up, and many of the things which we believed to be true are now regularly called into question.

I pity the author of any book, these days, which purported to be a comprehensive guide? He or she would be bombarded with complaints and derision. "Hey! You call this a reference book? You failed to mention that there are variations of the Pratt Combination Cuff without serial numbers!" Or, "Hey! You didn't mention the variation of this cuff which uses a left hand thread!" Or, "What's wrong with you? You say that the item pictured on page 155 is just two ER padlocks with a chain in between, but I know they were really meant to be leg irons." Etc., etc. Consider all the details which emerge on this web site, brought to light by a large number of observant and scholarly people. Could all of those details ever be cataloged in a single book, with pro and con arguments about questionable issues? Very daunting.

Mark, I know you didn't mean it as a slight when you wrote, "Whether or not Tom wrote or researched all the info in his book ...". The issue was raised by the cowardly vermin who called himself "truth teller", who we might well suspect of being insane or senile, and whose authorship probably consists of nothing more than bad checks. But since the issue has been raised, let me make it clear that I "wrote and researched" every word in my book. As stated above, and regrettably, we now know that not every one of those words was completely accurate. Ha! If I don't get to take credit for authoring my book, do I get to blame the mistakes on somebody else?



joe tanner 06 Sep 2011
#37
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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MR. - GROSS - GROSS :: i NEVER said that i was the TRUTH TELLER, but lets just say that i am.. ok... still spoke the TRUTH !! i am glad to see that you fessed up to errors in your book... good for you... as to your latest LIE -- i am assumming that your reference to WRITING BAD CHECKS is aimed at me -- well i have NEVER - NEVER written a bad check..... or are you referring to SANTINI who has ( at least ONE ) who hopefully has changed for the better over the last few years.... YOU & others are still PROPORTEDLY WRONG about WHEN S&W started making handcuffs.... according to info that i HAVE from some of the long ago pioneers of restraint collecting - S&W STARTED making handcuffs in -- 1912 -- which was the EARLY 1ST MODEL THIN SMALL FRAME SINGLE LINK -- PEERLESS handcuff......granted - the above information MAY NOT be correct, but it is the EARLIEST info & should be believed UNTIL proven incorrect...... several years ago on this forum, we had a thread about the above.... i have said it time & time again that whenever something is - UNKNOWN FOR SURE -- that a CLARIFICATION should ALWAYS be USED when speaking about it so that future readers - CARRY ON that same - CLARIFICATION - this should always be done - ESP in BOOKS..... for those of you who don't understand what i mean -- i CLARIFIED - the 1912 date by saying -- LONG AGO PIONEERS ---... by doing this, hopefully any readers who read this will from now on - (until PROVEN different) carry on the CLARIFICATION ... that way there is NO CONFUSSION or WRONG information.... so i tip my hat to the --- TRUTH TELLER -- whom ever that may be..... JOE
Jack 06 Sep 2011
#38
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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This is from the Peerless Web site.

"Peerless® Handcuff Company was established in 1914 in Springfield, Massachusetts."

http://www.peerless.net/about-us.html


Of perhaps greater interest, so is this.

"Where can I find information on old or antique restraints?

"Handcuffs.org is a great place to start to acquire information on old or antique handcuffs and other restraints. Handcuffs.org - is a collector's guide to Vintage Handcuffs; it is very informative and well set up. It has links to other sites and a forum area where questions can be posted.

"For more information please visit www.handcuffs.org"

http://www.peerless.net/faq-reader-page ... aints.html
joe tanner 06 Sep 2011
#39
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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JACK :: i stand corrected... if PEERLESS states that there OFFICIAL starting date is -- 1914 - that is that.... i have not bought a handcuff book or kept up on things for 11 - 12 years.... therefore, what the OLD TIMERS state may be correct or incorrect is im-material.... part of what some of them said -- was that -- PEERLESS being a SMALL family garage type operation began making restraints, BEFORE the patent was GRANTED... if so - no big deal...... joe
dltvette 06 Sep 2011
#40
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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I would first like to apologize to Tim for those who have high-jacked his thread and taken it off-topic.
I am new at collecting handcuffs and my interest at this point in time are in early Peerless handcuffs begining with their partnership with Smith & Wesson and the Peerless hand cuffs that that carried the patents by Joseph Wesson, Harold Wesson and Elmer Neal.
In my research about The Peerless Handcuff Company and Smith & Wesseon this is what I have found. The Peerless Handcuff Company was incorporated by James Milton Gill in Springfield, Massachusetts on June 22, 1914 after he purchased the handcuff patent invented by George A. Carney patent #1,017,955, Serial #652,881 filed October 4, 1911 and issued February 20, 1912.
On October 6, 1914, Joseph H. Wesson applied for a patent serial #865,286 for an improved lock mechanism, double locking with a key. This patent #1,161,562 was was granted on November 23, 1915 to Joseph H. Wesson of Springfield, Mass. Assignor to James M. Gill of Springfield, Mass. This was an improvement to the George A. Carney patent.
In the book, Smith & Wesson 1857-1945 revised edition by Robert J. Neal & Roy G. Jinks, it states on page 262 that Smith & Wesson began the manufacture of handcuffs in 1921 and continued them up to November of 1940.
On Jan. 2, 1915 Joseph H Wesson & Edward S. Pomeroy filed an application for an improved handcuff, patent #1,157,135, serial #68, and it was granted on October 19, 1915. In the book, History of Smith & Wesson by Roy G. Jinks on pp. 265-266 it states, in 1920 Harrold Wesson was successful in convincing the Peerless Handcuff Company that this handcuff was better than the one they were currently selling. An agreement was signed with Perless and S&W began production of handcuffs. S&W continued to manufacture handcuffs for Peerless until the beginning of WW II.

Dave
Anonymous 07 Sep 2011
#41
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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Jack 07 Sep 2011
#42
I'm trying to upload some pics of some of my cuffs and I'm starting by trying to piece together the Smith and Wesson time-line.

It's been accepted that Smith and Wesson began making handcuffs in 1952 but in the recent 1956 flyer on ebay, it showed the "new and improved" handcuffs and the sketches showed the model with the center detent. So what's the 1952 to 1955 model? I believe I've got the answer:





The above cuff is much smaller than a regular 70s model 90. I weight it at the post office and it only weighed 8.3 ounces compared to 8.5 ounces for the center detent model, 9.4 ounces for a Bangor Punta model 90 and 10.1 ounces for a model 100. You'll notice the swivels are very light weight which I'd immagine is what was "new and improved about the center detent model.


Next is a shiny center detent model:





In 1956 the shiny model had no model number but was listed as a Chrome option. In a previous Smith and Wesson history thread, you see a center detent model like this shown with the second model box and it says model 91 polished nickel. Evidently, Smith and Wesson switched from Chrome to polished nickel after a very short time and around the same time, adopted the model 91 designation.

Is this a 91 or a Chrome model? I have no idea. All I know is it's very shiny; much more so than the pic shows.

Next is a early model 90 high polish I believe from the early 60s.



This is the full size model but the overall feel and the lettering and stampings are the same style as the 1950s models. I tried to take closer photos but they didn't come out.

Thought I'd post a few photos to see what you guys thought.
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The same seller has the same copy listed for the same price ($225) at Advanced Book Exchange, www.abebooks.com.
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