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Dissemble M-94's ?

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Howard Hunt 11 Feb 2005
#1
For years I have been wondering if there is a way to dissemble S&W M-94's to be able to re-combinate them?
Dorson 11 Feb 2005
#2
Yes there is but it can be complicated if you don't know what you are dealing with. Recently I obtained some broken ones that I took apart and know how to change the codes, but you will need a new key and I haven't got any blanks yet. Working on that problem of getting some blanks and some pre cut ones. The driver pins and springs are quite small and are not standard. I have some pictures of them in pieces showing the internals but haven't done the editing and write for it to be posted here yet.

-Dorson(who thinks they should bring them back into production)
Ian McColl 11 Feb 2005
#3
For years I have been wondering if there is a way to dissemble S&W M-94's to be able to re-combinate them?
Hi There is no good way to pulled the lock apart but if you really really wanted to, the lock is fastened by the peining of the cylinder on the back.

The lock centre of the cylinder from the front, is through a hole in the center of the back section and then riveted over, polished and then plated.

You could pull it apart but is will look like it has been apart after you get it back together again. And the value of the cuffs would go down.

Ian
Steve Santini 11 Feb 2005
#4
For years I have been wondering if there is a way to dissemble S&W M-94's to be able to re-combinate them?
The cuff can be taken apart by drifting out the key post with a punch from the backside. The problem is going to be that there will be a ton of things like springs and pins flying around once this post clears the lock cylinder.

However, if you manage to put everything back in place and drive the post back in, you can erase any tell tale signs of tampering on the back where you punched it out by applying a high speed rotary tool with a fine metal sanding drum.

Once this is done, there will be virtually no way to tell the cuffs have ever been apart.

Steve Santini
Howard Hunt 12 Feb 2005
#5
For years I have been wondering if there is a way to dissemble S&W M-94's to be able to re-combinate them?
Thanks for the info, I can see where the "Pin" is in the rear lock housing and was pretty sure this was the key. However I was stumped as to how the front section could rotate, I assumed that the center post rotated also.

Will have to look at them again.

Think that if they brought them back they should be re-designed slightly, the fact that the front outer ring rotates makes then very easy for me to pick.

Howy
Dorson 12 Feb 2005
#6
For years I have been wondering if there is a way to dissemble S&W M-94's to be able to re-combinate them?
The tolerances are not as tight as they could be and there are no anti-pick pins in them. If they were to do this, it would be alot hard to pick open. Also, if you do remove the lock, the inner lock case slides to the rear and releases the chain swivel and then the whole thing comes out.

-Dorson
Howard Hunt 13 Feb 2005
#7
For years I have been wondering if there is a way to dissemble S&W M-94's to be able to re-combinate them?
Well they do have some anti-shim properties, there are three pawls to lock the single arm and they have a "false notch" to catch a shim.

This is easily bypassed by just moving the single arm a little, in the locking direction, to lower the "false notch", to allow the shim to fit in betweeen the locking pawls and the single arm.

This would be much a much more secure system if there was also three springs under the pawls, one for each.

In practice, I have found that by using a shim on one side, or the other, each cuff may be different, all three will will be removed from the locking position of the single arm and the handcuff could be opened.

Howy