Stiff handcuff ratchet

Hello all,
Excuse my language as I am not from around the Americas.

I have recently been entertained in the collection of handcuffs.
Just recently, I purchased a few sets of Peerless handcuffs.

It appears that they are quite shim resistant with their deep set teeth, however this seems like a drawback for practical use.
Is it a manufacturing defect that the ratchet is very stiff and hard to move through the cuff?

A considerable amount of force must be applied to the ratchet for them to swing through. This only happens on the Peerless cuffs. The Smith and Wesson are smooth as well as the Hiatts/Safariland and Yuil - however all Peerless take a large amount of effort.

Thank you,
Warm regards,
Yamada Kentaro

In my experience with peerless handcuffs the new models are really stiff. but after about a year of playing with them weekly they are not as stiff as they were when they were new. Now on the other hand the old style peerless 300's are a smooth cuff, and in my opinion i believe they were a lot better made.

Hello all,
Excuse my language as I am not from around the Americas.

I have recently been entertained in the collection of handcuffs.
Just recently, I purchased a few sets of Peerless handcuffs.

It appears that they are quite shim resistant with their deep set teeth, however this seems like a drawback for practical use.
Is it a manufacturing defect that the ratchet is very stiff and hard to move through the cuff?

A considerable amount of force must be applied to the ratchet for them to swing through. This only happens on the Peerless cuffs. The Smith and Wesson are smooth as well as the Hiatts/Safariland and Yuil - however all Peerless take a large amount of effort.

Thank you,
Warm regards,
Yamada Kentaro

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I agree with Adam totally.

Hello all,
Excuse my language as I am not from around the Americas.

I have recently been entertained in the collection of handcuffs.
Just recently, I purchased a few sets of Peerless handcuffs.

It appears that they are quite shim resistant with their deep set teeth, however this seems like a drawback for practical use.
Is it a manufacturing defect that the ratchet is very stiff and hard to move through the cuff?

A considerable amount of force must be applied to the ratchet for them to swing through. This only happens on the Peerless cuffs. The Smith and Wesson are smooth as well as the Hiatts/Safariland and Yuil - however all Peerless take a large amount of effort.

Thank you,
Warm regards,
Yamada Kentaro

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Yamada, welcome to the forum! Are you from Japan?

We'd love to hear from someone collection in Japan!

I'm afraid I can't offer much advice on your Peerless question.

Best regards,
Nils

Hello all,
Excuse my language as I am not from around the Americas.

I have recently been entertained in the collection of handcuffs.
Just recently, I purchased a few sets of Peerless handcuffs.

It appears that they are quite shim resistant with their deep set teeth, however this seems like a drawback for practical use.
Is it a manufacturing defect that the ratchet is very stiff and hard to move through the cuff?

A considerable amount of force must be applied to the ratchet for them to swing through. This only happens on the Peerless cuffs. The Smith and Wesson are smooth as well as the Hiatts/Safariland and Yuil - however all Peerless take a large amount of effort.

Thank you,
Warm regards,
Yamada Kentaro

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Yes, I am from Japan!

I am currently studying abrod in London, Ontario Canada.
Originally I come from the Kansai region - Osaka prefecture.

In Japan it is very difficult to get any sort of Western collectibles like handcuffs and replica firearms. Importing is illegal. Handcuffs are neat, I don't know why I started collecting them, but thats about it
Well now that I have given it more thought, my father is a poiceman, and when he came home, I used to play with his equipment - for which I was scholded for.
Canada is much more relaxed and handcuffs are far easy to obtain.

Thank you for your kind words!
I look forward to being here!

Hello all,
Excuse my language as I am not from around the Americas.

I have recently been entertained in the collection of handcuffs.
Just recently, I purchased a few sets of Peerless handcuffs.

It appears that they are quite shim resistant with their deep set teeth, however this seems like a drawback for practical use.
Is it a manufacturing defect that the ratchet is very stiff and hard to move through the cuff?

A considerable amount of force must be applied to the ratchet for them to swing through. This only happens on the Peerless cuffs. The Smith and Wesson are smooth as well as the Hiatts/Safariland and Yuil - however all Peerless take a large amount of effort.

Thank you,
Warm regards,
Yamada Kentaro

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The stiffness you're refering to is due to their construction. S&W, Hiatt, Yuil and the multiple pawl versions of ASP (green & blue) all use a piece(s) of flat springsteel bent to aproxamate the shape of the inner loop of a small paperclip. Peerless on the other hand uses a piece of springsteel bent into a shape only slightly larger than this ---> "C". It does double duty of both giving tension to the pawl and serving as the detent for the doublelock bar. A number of years ago Peerless had a bad batch wheras the little C would slip out of place causing the pawl to go limp, the soloution was to close the C a little bit more making it into almost a "G", in doing so, the side effect was the ratchet becoming stiffer.

I never like discussing vulnerabilities or bypassing techniques on an open forum, this would include shimming the pawl. My advice to you is to try it yourself (off hand), and determine wether or not the stiff spring affects shimming.

Best wishes, and be careful if you attempt to return to Japan with your new toys, as the end result may be trading several Peerless cuffs for a single Takeda style cuff - if you know what I mean


--Vince

Hello all,
Excuse my language as I am not from around the Americas.

I have recently been entertained in the collection of handcuffs.
Just recently, I purchased a few sets of Peerless handcuffs.

It appears that they are quite shim resistant with their deep set teeth, however this seems like a drawback for practical use.
Is it a manufacturing defect that the ratchet is very stiff and hard to move through the cuff?

A considerable amount of force must be applied to the ratchet for them to swing through. This only happens on the Peerless cuffs. The Smith and Wesson are smooth as well as the Hiatts/Safariland and Yuil - however all Peerless take a large amount of effort.

Thank you,
Warm regards,
Yamada Kentaro

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Nice to have someone from Japan on board. What are the rules on someone from Japan sending Japanese cuffs out of the country? There are some very interesting cuffs from Japan that I know many of us would love to have.

Thanks,

Tiom

Hello all,
Excuse my language as I am not from around the Americas.

I have recently been entertained in the collection of handcuffs.
Just recently, I purchased a few sets of Peerless handcuffs.

It appears that they are quite shim resistant with their deep set teeth, however this seems like a drawback for practical use.
Is it a manufacturing defect that the ratchet is very stiff and hard to move through the cuff?

A considerable amount of force must be applied to the ratchet for them to swing through. This only happens on the Peerless cuffs. The Smith and Wesson are smooth as well as the Hiatts/Safariland and Yuil - however all Peerless take a large amount of effort.

Thank you,
Warm regards,
Yamada Kentaro

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Hello everyone,

In Japan, handcuffs are considered restricted items.
The various Prefectures - or regions of Japan have unique handcuffs.
Each prefecture has their own emplem that coresponds with the emblem on the handcuffs.

Shipping these handcuffs would be illegal.
In general, products for use with law enforcement agencies or government is prohibited to sell/export. Each handcuff is serialized and stamped with an unique number that is registered.
Sadly it is even impossible to obtain government issue handcuffs for civilians - and off duty poliecemen cannot carry them.

According to my father, it was about 15 years ago that poliecemen could purchase goverment property, but is now near impossible.

Kentaro

Hello all,
Excuse my language as I am not from around the Americas.

I have recently been entertained in the collection of handcuffs.
Just recently, I purchased a few sets of Peerless handcuffs.

It appears that they are quite shim resistant with their deep set teeth, however this seems like a drawback for practical use.
Is it a manufacturing defect that the ratchet is very stiff and hard to move through the cuff?

A considerable amount of force must be applied to the ratchet for them to swing through. This only happens on the Peerless cuffs. The Smith and Wesson are smooth as well as the Hiatts/Safariland and Yuil - however all Peerless take a large amount of effort.

Thank you,
Warm regards,
Yamada Kentaro

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@Kentaro

I spent 1967-1969 at Hakata Base near Saitozaki in Fukuoka, now that is the Fukuoka Maratime Park.

Is it possible for you to add any information you can to the thread titled "Japanese Handcuffs?", I believe you will find it on page 2 here in the archives.

Howy
Cincy

Hello all,
Excuse my language as I am not from around the Americas.

I have recently been entertained in the collection of handcuffs.
Just recently, I purchased a few sets of Peerless handcuffs.

It appears that they are quite shim resistant with their deep set teeth, however this seems like a drawback for practical use.
Is it a manufacturing defect that the ratchet is very stiff and hard to move through the cuff?

A considerable amount of force must be applied to the ratchet for them to swing through. This only happens on the Peerless cuffs. The Smith and Wesson are smooth as well as the Hiatts/Safariland and Yuil - however all Peerless take a large amount of effort.

Thank you,
Warm regards,
Yamada Kentaro

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I read somewhere that Japanese policemen carried handcuffs, but not the keys... they had to be unlocked at the station.

Please correct me if I am mistaken.

Thanks, ~Chuck

Hello all,
Excuse my language as I am not from around the Americas.

I have recently been entertained in the collection of handcuffs.
Just recently, I purchased a few sets of Peerless handcuffs.

It appears that they are quite shim resistant with their deep set teeth, however this seems like a drawback for practical use.
Is it a manufacturing defect that the ratchet is very stiff and hard to move through the cuff?

A considerable amount of force must be applied to the ratchet for them to swing through. This only happens on the Peerless cuffs. The Smith and Wesson are smooth as well as the Hiatts/Safariland and Yuil - however all Peerless take a large amount of effort.

Thank you,
Warm regards,
Yamada Kentaro

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Greetings,
Thanks,
@Howy
Are you reffering to this thread:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/261154/t ... Handcuffs-

@Chuck
Also, I will confirm this - about the keys not being carried by the policeman and let you all know.

Until later,
Kentaro

Hello all,
Excuse my language as I am not from around the Americas.

I have recently been entertained in the collection of handcuffs.
Just recently, I purchased a few sets of Peerless handcuffs.

It appears that they are quite shim resistant with their deep set teeth, however this seems like a drawback for practical use.
Is it a manufacturing defect that the ratchet is very stiff and hard to move through the cuff?

A considerable amount of force must be applied to the ratchet for them to swing through. This only happens on the Peerless cuffs. The Smith and Wesson are smooth as well as the Hiatts/Safariland and Yuil - however all Peerless take a large amount of effort.

Thank you,
Warm regards,
Yamada Kentaro

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@Kentaro

Yes

That is the thread I was refering to.

We would like any more information you could add.

Howy
Cincy