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Steve Santini 27 Jun 2012
#1
Can anyone here tell me the best way to remove paint from a restraint?

I recently acquired a very old and rare restraint that someone has at one time cimpletely covered in gold paint. (Why I have no idea).

I can see that under the paint the iron is a nice old brown patina.

I want to remove the paint to expose the original brown rust/patina of the restraint.

Wire brushing is out so is anything else that will destroy the finish of the iron beneath the paint.

Thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks, Steve Santini
Adam Bush 27 Jun 2012
#2
I don't know if this will help but we get this stuff at work called SDS a solvent De-greaser that i use on everything from removing grease to removing paint. This stuff is amazing and works better than anything I've ever used. Even factory paint just let it soak for a bit and it'll wipe right off. Any time i get a new pair of cuffs i use this stuff to clean them out and it'll remove anything I've put it up against so far. The only problem is im not sure where to get it because i don't think they sell it in stores. You could probably find it online somewhere. Its made by the Charest Company and its called Fast Dry SdS Solvent De-greaser. Hope this helps.

Adam Bush
Steve Santini 27 Jun 2012
#3
Can anyone here tell me the best way to remove paint from a restraint?

I recently acquired a very old and rare restraint that someone has at one time cimpletely covered in gold paint. (Why I have no idea).

I can see that under the paint the iron is a nice old brown patina.

I want to remove the paint to expose the original brown rust/patina of the restraint.

Wire brushing is out so is anything else that will destroy the finish of the iron beneath the paint.

Thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks, Steve Santini
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Thank you.
xHoudini 27 Jun 2012
#4
Can anyone here tell me the best way to remove paint from a restraint?

I recently acquired a very old and rare restraint that someone has at one time cimpletely covered in gold paint. (Why I have no idea).

I can see that under the paint the iron is a nice old brown patina.

I want to remove the paint to expose the original brown rust/patina of the restraint.

Wire brushing is out so is anything else that will destroy the finish of the iron beneath the paint.

Thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks, Steve Santini
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Steve , Before you use anything on the restraint I would recommend that anything you use is tried out first on a similarly painted item such as an old piece of wrought iron railing or gate which would have a similarly patinated metal underneath the paint.

Good luck.
Adam Bush 27 Jun 2012
#5
Can anyone here tell me the best way to remove paint from a restraint?

I recently acquired a very old and rare restraint that someone has at one time cimpletely covered in gold paint. (Why I have no idea).

I can see that under the paint the iron is a nice old brown patina.

I want to remove the paint to expose the original brown rust/patina of the restraint.

Wire brushing is out so is anything else that will destroy the finish of the iron beneath the paint.

Thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks, Steve Santini
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I've never had a problem with it damaging metal in fact tats what its made for, however do not use it on plastics because it will eat at it and make it soft (found out the hard way). But as said by xHoudini i would try it on something similar because im not sure what it would do to the patina.
LK 27 Jun 2012
#6
Can anyone here tell me the best way to remove paint from a restraint?

I recently acquired a very old and rare restraint that someone has at one time cimpletely covered in gold paint. (Why I have no idea).

I can see that under the paint the iron is a nice old brown patina.

I want to remove the paint to expose the original brown rust/patina of the restraint.

Wire brushing is out so is anything else that will destroy the finish of the iron beneath the paint.

Thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks, Steve Santini
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Steve try a thing called GOOF-OFF,used it on a lock that was painted black and didn't effect the patina, it is a liquid paint remover,ask at a paint store

i would also recommend trying it out on some junk first also

LK D~D

ps: if u do use it please reply back here,with the results,please thanks
LK 27 Jun 2012
#7
Can anyone here tell me the best way to remove paint from a restraint?

I recently acquired a very old and rare restraint that someone has at one time cimpletely covered in gold paint. (Why I have no idea).

I can see that under the paint the iron is a nice old brown patina.

I want to remove the paint to expose the original brown rust/patina of the restraint.

Wire brushing is out so is anything else that will destroy the finish of the iron beneath the paint.

Thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks, Steve Santini
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pss; it is not messy like other removers and u don't wash it off, just apply and wipe !


LK D~D
Franklin 30 Jun 2012
#8
Can anyone here tell me the best way to remove paint from a restraint?

I recently acquired a very old and rare restraint that someone has at one time cimpletely covered in gold paint. (Why I have no idea).

I can see that under the paint the iron is a nice old brown patina.

I want to remove the paint to expose the original brown rust/patina of the restraint.

Wire brushing is out so is anything else that will destroy the finish of the iron beneath the paint.

Thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks, Steve Santini
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Steve:

Awwww. C'mon.

You know how to do this, if you have a true old wrought iron item.

Just throw the thing in a fireplace and let the paint burn off.

Or a charcoal grill or a propane torch.

Just toast that stuff off like a marshmellow in a campfire.

Won't hurt the iron none and maybe helps the patina along a little bit.

If there are any springs in the item, well, just don't get too aggressive with the heat. Treat it like a new love of your life. Very gently at first, a little more, back off, apply again, and so on and so on.

Franklin
Steve Santini 30 Jun 2012
#9
Can anyone here tell me the best way to remove paint from a restraint?

I recently acquired a very old and rare restraint that someone has at one time cimpletely covered in gold paint. (Why I have no idea).

I can see that under the paint the iron is a nice old brown patina.

I want to remove the paint to expose the original brown rust/patina of the restraint.

Wire brushing is out so is anything else that will destroy the finish of the iron beneath the paint.

Thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks, Steve Santini
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For the input.

Honestly Franklin, I would never have considered taking fire to a 16th or 17th century iron relic.

Call it the born curator in me. But, now that you mention it, I AM going to be using the BBQ to cook dinner tonight. lol

S.S.
LK 30 Jun 2012
#10
Can anyone here tell me the best way to remove paint from a restraint?

I recently acquired a very old and rare restraint that someone has at one time cimpletely covered in gold paint. (Why I have no idea).

I can see that under the paint the iron is a nice old brown patina.

I want to remove the paint to expose the original brown rust/patina of the restraint.

Wire brushing is out so is anything else that will destroy the finish of the iron beneath the paint.

Thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks, Steve Santini
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Another product if u can't find Goof-off IS CALLED OOP'S, i forget why i switched to goof-off, either it wasn't available or they may have went out of bus. it did work the same

LK D~D
Larry 06 Jul 2012
#11
Can anyone here tell me the best way to remove paint from a restraint?

I recently acquired a very old and rare restraint that someone has at one time cimpletely covered in gold paint. (Why I have no idea).

I can see that under the paint the iron is a nice old brown patina.

I want to remove the paint to expose the original brown rust/patina of the restraint.

Wire brushing is out so is anything else that will destroy the finish of the iron beneath the paint.

Thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks, Steve Santini
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Hey Steve. Please make more Deals from the Dark Side. Love that show.

> SDS

Besides Sodium dodecyl sulfate aka SDS aka NaDS aka sodium laurilsulfate aka sodium lauryl sulfate is the only thing I could find on this mysterious solvent. This is the stuff they add to shampoo to make it sudsy. Gentle, yes. But unless that gold paint is watercolor, Adam's solvent is not this. Adam: any chance you could post the ingredients list and especially the physician's notes (i.e. Contain petroleum distillates) that are on the packaging?

Any solvents used in any business within scope of OSHA (most N. American) will have an Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS profile) on record somewhere that will list all the ingredients. Even though the secret ingredients might not be listed on the label, there is no getting around the MSDS and poison control warnings when selling a product in the US.

In any case, I would test on an inconspicuous surface first to see the effect. Patinas are fragile.

> Goof Off

That stuff is powerful, I would be careful with that. Reminds me of when I soaked my plastic slot car in a jar of pure toluene that my dad kept way far away from the house in a 5 gallon steel can. I reached in and pulled it out immediately when it started to melt, but it was too late. Was OK though, that became my "car that had the roll-over accident" in my collection.

My own speculation: I am surprised that the kind of person who would paint antique cuffs gold would know enough about coatings to properly apply a primer + enamel, over an un-prepped surface, strong enough to resist plain friction. The spots that are showing their patina, are they in spots that were subjected to normal handling? Maybe the paint does not have a good grip on, as you describe, a proper patina, so perhaps a little buffing with a cloth wheel might cause the paint job to completely fail. Anything is possible I guess.

Speaking of solvents, I ran into this stuff "2-butoxyethanol". Might not be of much help with a cured oil-based paint, but for anything tar/oil/nicotine/dirt/grime-relate one a sensitive surface, there is no equal. I used it on LCD screen, laptop cases, glass, chrome, carpet stains, errant mayonaise on my dress shirt, etc. For as strong as it is, I am amazed at how gentle it is (i.e. LCD screen). Removes every fingerprint and leaves no streaks. Kind of like isopropyl, but much more effective and faster drying. Its a big hard to find though. Using MSDS profiles I have tracked it down to being an ingredient in everything from One-Shot Carpet Stain Remover to Mean Green Bicycle Cleaner. I have an old stock of Anti-Static Foaming Cleaner marketed for computers, and I hold this stuff near and dear.

Good luck and let us know. This is a good topic.
Franklin 06 Jul 2012
#12
Can anyone here tell me the best way to remove paint from a restraint?

I recently acquired a very old and rare restraint that someone has at one time cimpletely covered in gold paint. (Why I have no idea).

I can see that under the paint the iron is a nice old brown patina.

I want to remove the paint to expose the original brown rust/patina of the restraint.

Wire brushing is out so is anything else that will destroy the finish of the iron beneath the paint.

Thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks, Steve Santini
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Steve:

Something else I remembered that you might want to try as a first step, non-invasive whatever: lacquer thinner.

In messing around with old wrought iron objects that had been "conserved and protected" by someone in the past, they often used a lacquer clear coat or black lacquer paint. Just immerse the thing in a bucket of lacquer thinner and after about two minutes, the coating turns into a gooey mess that wipes right off.

If they used a modern poly-whatever based kind of gold paint, nothing will happen and you gotta try something else:

When your significant other ain't looking, swipe a bottle of her fingernail polish remover and swab a little of it on to see if it dissolves the paint. If it does, then pop by the hardware store and pick up a gallon of acetone. Don't tell your significant other that's the operative ingredient in what she has been using on her fingernails between paint jobs.

Have fun.

Franklin
Adam Bush 06 Jul 2012
#13
Can anyone here tell me the best way to remove paint from a restraint?

I recently acquired a very old and rare restraint that someone has at one time cimpletely covered in gold paint. (Why I have no idea).

I can see that under the paint the iron is a nice old brown patina.

I want to remove the paint to expose the original brown rust/patina of the restraint.

Wire brushing is out so is anything else that will destroy the finish of the iron beneath the paint.

Thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks, Steve Santini
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The ingredients are, trichloroethylene (79-01-6), tetrachloroethylene (127-18-4), carbon dioxide (124-38-9). It says, non Flammable,29000 volt dielectric, leaves no film, non conductive, contains no oil, contains no 1.1.1 trichloroethane. warnings: contains trichloroethylene and tetrachloroethylene. use only in well ventilated area. avoid prolonged breathing of vapor. avoid contact with eyes and prolonged contact with skin. product contains chemicals known to the state of cali to cause cancer. here's a pic of the can.
Larry 06 Jul 2012
#14
Can anyone here tell me the best way to remove paint from a restraint?

I recently acquired a very old and rare restraint that someone has at one time cimpletely covered in gold paint. (Why I have no idea).

I can see that under the paint the iron is a nice old brown patina.

I want to remove the paint to expose the original brown rust/patina of the restraint.

Wire brushing is out so is anything else that will destroy the finish of the iron beneath the paint.

Thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks, Steve Santini
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Thanks for the info Adam.

From the ingredients list, that is basically dry cleaning fluid. As far as solvents go, it doesn't get any more gentle than that!

No idea what it would do to patina, but is known to react metals at high temps, but that wouldn't apply here.