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saml2012 17 Jul 2012
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hi i have some nippers "come alongs" with hiatt steel stamped on one side and British made on the other any one got an idea of ther age and how much ther worth thankhttp://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1342554362.JPG
Jack.Tanis 17 Jul 2012
#2
Dear Sam,

Yours was made in the second or third quarter of the last century. Value depends on who wants it and how much it is wanted; i.e., the value is variable. In a fair market, I'd state it is worth not less than $50.00 and not more than $125.00. Feel free to view half a dozen others on this Web page -- http://www.editing.org.uk/tanis/restraints2.htm.

Cheers,

Jack
http://www.editing.org.uk/tanis/collectibles.htm
Unknown / guest 17 Jul 2012
#3
hi i have some nippers "come alongs" with hiatt steel stamped on one side and British made on the other any one got an idea of ther age and how much ther worth thankhttp://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1342554362.JPG
The period at the end of the sentence was incorporated incorrectly into the Web page address, which will result in an error message. This is the correct URL.

http://www.editing.org.uk/tanis/restraints2.htm

Cheers,

Jack
http://www.editing.org.uk/tanis/collectibles.htm
Franklin 18 Jul 2012
#4
hi i have some nippers "come alongs" with hiatt steel stamped on one side and British made on the other any one got an idea of ther age and how much ther worth thankhttp://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1342554362.JPG
Jack:

Not exactly on point here, but maybe you can help me out here regarding the stampings you see on old items, and possible dates thereof.

When did the stamp:

England

show up that you know of?

Thanks,

Franklin
Jack.Tanis 18 Jul 2012
#5
hi i have some nippers "come alongs" with hiatt steel stamped on one side and British made on the other any one got an idea of ther age and how much ther worth thankhttp://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1342554362.JPG
Dear Franklin,

This became something of an international requirement for any good that would be exported. Often all goods were marked, whether they were intended for export or not. It was easier to mark them and not export them than it was to omit the mark and later want to export them.

The marking of the country of origin began a few years after the Great War, about 1920. There is no exact year, as there were so many companies making so many products, and governments were not quick to formulate or to enforce regulations. (Many persons would call those the good old days.) By around 1923 and certainly by 1925, exported goods bore the names of the countries where they were made. There was no formal requirement for "Made in"; e.g., "Made in Germany" and "Germany" satisfied the requirement equally. By extension, if wording beyond the country name itself was used, the exact wording was not specified by law; e.g., "British Made" and "Made in Britain" or "Made in England" (if that was the case) were equivalent in effect.

Cheers,

Jack
http://www.editing.org.uk/tanis/collectibles.htm
hanseatenhans 18 Jul 2012
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hi i have some nippers "come alongs" with hiatt steel stamped on one side and British made on the other any one got an idea of ther age and how much ther worth thankhttp://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1342554362.JPG
Sorry Jack, but there was a formal requirement for Germany after 1918...

Kind regards

Hans
Jack Tanis 18 Jul 2012
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hi i have some nippers "come alongs" with hiatt steel stamped on one side and British made on the other any one got an idea of ther age and how much ther worth thankhttp://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1342554362.JPG
Dear Hans,

The beginnings predate even 1918. This is an interesting history:

http://www.porcelainmarksandmore.com/re ... orical.php

However, all this was more or less haphazard until the Great War ended, and then it took time for "all parties concerned" to be in compliance. I have not seen exceptions after the very early 1920s, whereas exceptions abound prior to that and very little was what one would call uniform or applied uniformly.

In other words, I was suggesting, or trying to suggest, from experience, a reliable rule of thumb.

Cheers,

Jack
Franklin 20 Jul 2012
#8
hi i have some nippers "come alongs" with hiatt steel stamped on one side and British made on the other any one got an idea of ther age and how much ther worth thankhttp://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1342554362.JPG
Jack:

Thanks. Your guesstimate on time is about what I had concluded. The break point seems to be about 1918 (Great War). Nothing before that.

Just my opinion, and I recognize there is a growing body of opinion that holds that my opinion ain't worth a damn.

Best I have been able to figure out, the country stampings on articles had no origin from any sort of big, international treaty of the sorts we have today. Rather, it had to do with tariffs; that is, the taxes levied upon imports. Your buddies get a low tax; the rest have to pay more.

What I find curious is that while you see the stamp ENGLAND rather often on items, you don't see a stamp of GREAT BRITAIN, UNITED KINGDOM, or WHALES or SCOTLAND. Or MERCIA, ANGLIA, NORTHUMRIA or any of those others in the Heptarchy.

But, Lord love 'em, the English are a bit different.

Nonetheless, and to try to keep this on a handcuff topic, as best I know, the first handcuff to bear the stamping MADE IN U.S.A was a Peerless. Along about 1925.

Thanks,

Franklin
Jack.Tanis 20 Jul 2012
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Dear Franklin,

...WHALES!

Cheers,

Jack
http://www.editing.org.uk/tanis/collectibles.htm
Franklin 21 Jul 2012
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Hi Jack:

Thanks for catching that. I gotta remember that typo so I can do it on porpoise in the future.

Franklin
Jack.Tanis 21 Jul 2012
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hi i have some nippers "come alongs" with hiatt steel stamped on one side and British made on the other any one got an idea of ther age and how much ther worth thankhttp://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1342554362.JPG
Dear Franklin,

I can hear the wails already.

Cheers,

Jack
http://www.editing.org.uk/tanis/collectibles.htm
Anonymous 23 Jul 2012
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hi i have some nippers "come alongs" with hiatt steel stamped on one side and British made on the other any one got an idea of ther age and how much ther worth thankhttp://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1342554362.JPG
Do the Wales whales wail?