Secret of s&w 104?

Recently i bought a pair of smith & wesson high security handcuffs model 104-1.
There is a special key with a smaller size needed to open the handcuff and the key has also a small tip.
I was wondering if there is a special extra security build in the handcuff so they work different from the regular smith & wesson model 100 handcuffs apart that there is an non regular key required?

I expected that there were atleast two ratcheds, so that the tip of the special key was needed for at least one ratched, wich was in the shadow of the circular tube. But this seemed not to be the case.
There is only one ratched like model 100.

So may be the ratched is on the end, where the key takes the ratched, smaller so it can only be taken with the tip of the special key. If this is the case, it can't be seen from outside.

May be there is nothing extra build in.

Who know if there is an extra security build in the smith & wesson model 104 and if so what the secret is?

An other question:
Wat is the difference between smith & wesson handcuff model 104 and 104-1?

What is a ratched?

Recently i bought a pair of smith & wesson high security handcuffs model 104-1.
There is a special key with a smaller size needed to open the handcuff and the key has also a small tip.
I was wondering if there is a special extra security build in the handcuff so they work different from the regular smith & wesson model 100 handcuffs apart that there is an non regular key required?

I expected that there were atleast two ratcheds, so that the tip of the special key was needed for at least one ratched, wich was in the shadow of the circular tube. But this seemed not to be the case.
There is only one ratched like model 100.

So may be the ratched is on the end, where the key takes the ratched, smaller so it can only be taken with the tip of the special key. If this is the case, it can't be seen from outside.

May be there is nothing extra build in.

Who know if there is an extra security build in the smith & wesson model 104 and if so what the secret is?

An other question:
Wat is the difference between smith & wesson handcuff model 104 and 104-1?

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If you go here :

http://www.handcuffwarehouse.com/higsechan.html

they don't list a 104-1

but they do list a 104 & 104P
the 104 P WAS DISCONTINUED >>>> 104P ( with push pin)
If yours has a push pin then it might be a 104P
anyway maybe reading about the 2 might answer your question!

LK D~D

Recently i bought a pair of smith & wesson high security handcuffs model 104-1.
There is a special key with a smaller size needed to open the handcuff and the key has also a small tip.
I was wondering if there is a special extra security build in the handcuff so they work different from the regular smith & wesson model 100 handcuffs apart that there is an non regular key required?

I expected that there were atleast two ratcheds, so that the tip of the special key was needed for at least one ratched, wich was in the shadow of the circular tube. But this seemed not to be the case.
There is only one ratched like model 100.

So may be the ratched is on the end, where the key takes the ratched, smaller so it can only be taken with the tip of the special key. If this is the case, it can't be seen from outside.

May be there is nothing extra build in.

Who know if there is an extra security build in the smith & wesson model 104 and if so what the secret is?

An other question:
Wat is the difference between smith & wesson handcuff model 104 and 104-1?

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Check out this (somewhat) recent thread, it should be of some help although a certain "Austrailian Locksmith" appears to have deleted some diagrams which were very informative, ((haha!))


PS. I had to take some asprins, as your writing style gave me a headache!



--Vince

Recently i bought a pair of smith & wesson high security handcuffs model 104-1.
There is a special key with a smaller size needed to open the handcuff and the key has also a small tip.
I was wondering if there is a special extra security build in the handcuff so they work different from the regular smith & wesson model 100 handcuffs apart that there is an non regular key required?

I expected that there were atleast two ratcheds, so that the tip of the special key was needed for at least one ratched, wich was in the shadow of the circular tube. But this seemed not to be the case.
There is only one ratched like model 100.

So may be the ratched is on the end, where the key takes the ratched, smaller so it can only be taken with the tip of the special key. If this is the case, it can't be seen from outside.

May be there is nothing extra build in.

Who know if there is an extra security build in the smith & wesson model 104 and if so what the secret is?

An other question:
Wat is the difference between smith & wesson handcuff model 104 and 104-1?

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Maybe it would be nice to ACTUALLY include the link?...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/261154/m ... rity+cuff-

Recently i bought a pair of smith & wesson high security handcuffs model 104-1.
There is a special key with a smaller size needed to open the handcuff and the key has also a small tip.
I was wondering if there is a special extra security build in the handcuff so they work different from the regular smith & wesson model 100 handcuffs apart that there is an non regular key required?

I expected that there were atleast two ratcheds, so that the tip of the special key was needed for at least one ratched, wich was in the shadow of the circular tube. But this seemed not to be the case.
There is only one ratched like model 100.

So may be the ratched is on the end, where the key takes the ratched, smaller so it can only be taken with the tip of the special key. If this is the case, it can't be seen from outside.

May be there is nothing extra build in.

Who know if there is an extra security build in the smith & wesson model 104 and if so what the secret is?

An other question:
Wat is the difference between smith & wesson handcuff model 104 and 104-1?

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Here is the correct link to the thread...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/261154/t ... rity+cuff-

Recently i bought a pair of smith & wesson high security handcuffs model 104-1.
There is a special key with a smaller size needed to open the handcuff and the key has also a small tip.
I was wondering if there is a special extra security build in the handcuff so they work different from the regular smith & wesson model 100 handcuffs apart that there is an non regular key required?

I expected that there were atleast two ratcheds, so that the tip of the special key was needed for at least one ratched, wich was in the shadow of the circular tube. But this seemed not to be the case.
There is only one ratched like model 100.

So may be the ratched is on the end, where the key takes the ratched, smaller so it can only be taken with the tip of the special key. If this is the case, it can't be seen from outside.

May be there is nothing extra build in.

Who know if there is an extra security build in the smith & wesson model 104 and if so what the secret is?

An other question:
Wat is the difference between smith & wesson handcuff model 104 and 104-1?

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Vince, the diagrams were deleted as somone was altering my intellectual property and dumbing down the information I was once happy to provide because he couldn't grasp anything that his brain has to work just a tad ( means 'small') amount for.

Same person posted as 'anon and I have never had an apology.

so there you go...........

Recently i bought a pair of smith & wesson high security handcuffs model 104-1.
There is a special key with a smaller size needed to open the handcuff and the key has also a small tip.
I was wondering if there is a special extra security build in the handcuff so they work different from the regular smith & wesson model 100 handcuffs apart that there is an non regular key required?

I expected that there were atleast two ratcheds, so that the tip of the special key was needed for at least one ratched, wich was in the shadow of the circular tube. But this seemed not to be the case.
There is only one ratched like model 100.

So may be the ratched is on the end, where the key takes the ratched, smaller so it can only be taken with the tip of the special key. If this is the case, it can't be seen from outside.

May be there is nothing extra build in.

Who know if there is an extra security build in the smith & wesson model 104 and if so what the secret is?

An other question:
Wat is the difference between smith & wesson handcuff model 104 and 104-1?

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Sorrie for the wrong spelling: ratched should be ratchet.

A ratchet is a device that allows continuous linear or rotary motion in only one direction while preventing motion in the opposite direction.

Recently i bought a pair of smith & wesson high security handcuffs model 104-1.
There is a special key with a smaller size needed to open the handcuff and the key has also a small tip.
I was wondering if there is a special extra security build in the handcuff so they work different from the regular smith & wesson model 100 handcuffs apart that there is an non regular key required?

I expected that there were atleast two ratcheds, so that the tip of the special key was needed for at least one ratched, wich was in the shadow of the circular tube. But this seemed not to be the case.
There is only one ratched like model 100.

So may be the ratched is on the end, where the key takes the ratched, smaller so it can only be taken with the tip of the special key. If this is the case, it can't be seen from outside.

May be there is nothing extra build in.

Who know if there is an extra security build in the smith & wesson model 104 and if so what the secret is?

An other question:
Wat is the difference between smith & wesson handcuff model 104 and 104-1?

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The ratchet is on the rotating arm of the handcuff, the pawl is within the lock case.

Recently i bought a pair of smith & wesson high security handcuffs model 104-1.
There is a special key with a smaller size needed to open the handcuff and the key has also a small tip.
I was wondering if there is a special extra security build in the handcuff so they work different from the regular smith & wesson model 100 handcuffs apart that there is an non regular key required?

I expected that there were atleast two ratcheds, so that the tip of the special key was needed for at least one ratched, wich was in the shadow of the circular tube. But this seemed not to be the case.
There is only one ratched like model 100.

So may be the ratched is on the end, where the key takes the ratched, smaller so it can only be taken with the tip of the special key. If this is the case, it can't be seen from outside.

May be there is nothing extra build in.

Who know if there is an extra security build in the smith & wesson model 104 and if so what the secret is?

An other question:
Wat is the difference between smith & wesson handcuff model 104 and 104-1?

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Paul,
This is the diagram of the S&W 104 locking system they show in their product brochure.
Dave

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Recently i bought a pair of smith & wesson high security handcuffs model 104-1.
There is a special key with a smaller size needed to open the handcuff and the key has also a small tip.
I was wondering if there is a special extra security build in the handcuff so they work different from the regular smith & wesson model 100 handcuffs apart that there is an non regular key required?

I expected that there were atleast two ratcheds, so that the tip of the special key was needed for at least one ratched, wich was in the shadow of the circular tube. But this seemed not to be the case.
There is only one ratched like model 100.

So may be the ratched is on the end, where the key takes the ratched, smaller so it can only be taken with the tip of the special key. If this is the case, it can't be seen from outside.

May be there is nothing extra build in.

Who know if there is an extra security build in the smith & wesson model 104 and if so what the secret is?

An other question:
Wat is the difference between smith & wesson handcuff model 104 and 104-1?

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David,
Thanks for posting the photos and I can attest the pictures are correct as I have been inside the cuffs. In fact it was a good thing that I did because I found some extra metal that could have jammed the cuffs. That little round pin that goes under the spring.

Recently i bought a pair of smith & wesson high security handcuffs model 104-1.
There is a special key with a smaller size needed to open the handcuff and the key has also a small tip.
I was wondering if there is a special extra security build in the handcuff so they work different from the regular smith & wesson model 100 handcuffs apart that there is an non regular key required?

I expected that there were atleast two ratcheds, so that the tip of the special key was needed for at least one ratched, wich was in the shadow of the circular tube. But this seemed not to be the case.
There is only one ratched like model 100.

So may be the ratched is on the end, where the key takes the ratched, smaller so it can only be taken with the tip of the special key. If this is the case, it can't be seen from outside.

May be there is nothing extra build in.

Who know if there is an extra security build in the smith & wesson model 104 and if so what the secret is?

An other question:
Wat is the difference between smith & wesson handcuff model 104 and 104-1?

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Thank you for posting that picture.
I was under the assumption that it was the top most tang on the key actuated the pawl.
It seems that even with the tang broken off, the remaining part of the key will still engage the pawl to open the cuff.
Not as pick resistant as I envisioned them to be.

mark
O--O

Recently i bought a pair of smith & wesson high security handcuffs model 104-1.
There is a special key with a smaller size needed to open the handcuff and the key has also a small tip.
I was wondering if there is a special extra security build in the handcuff so they work different from the regular smith & wesson model 100 handcuffs apart that there is an non regular key required?

I expected that there were atleast two ratcheds, so that the tip of the special key was needed for at least one ratched, wich was in the shadow of the circular tube. But this seemed not to be the case.
There is only one ratched like model 100.

So may be the ratched is on the end, where the key takes the ratched, smaller so it can only be taken with the tip of the special key. If this is the case, it can't be seen from outside.

May be there is nothing extra build in.

Who know if there is an extra security build in the smith & wesson model 104 and if so what the secret is?

An other question:
Wat is the difference between smith & wesson handcuff model 104 and 104-1?

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These pictures explains everything to me!