Word of warning about Sirchie handcuffs

Hello,

I purchased 2 pair of new sirchie handcuffs off ebay a couple months ago; they were very stiff when I got them and they were double locked. The locked were going to require a fairly stiff hand on the key but if you face the same situation DON'T USE THE STOCK KEY! Man it is made of junk pot metal. I broke 2 bits off in the nicer of the 2 sets. I switched to a Smith and Wesson key and was able to free up the other set. I could tell from the broke piece that they were pot-metal.

Anyway, anybody got a good trick for removing key bits? I've tried 2 needles but just can't seem to get it. Maybe I need better nerves.

Tim

Hi,

The Guardian brand handcuffs are just as bad.

To remove broken key bits from the lock take a punch and drift out the key post from the back of the cuff to the front side.

The post is just pressure fit and is not peened over. It takes only a slight tap to drift it out.

Shake out any broken key bits from the keyhole.

To properly reinsert the key post, take one of your junk keys and cut it back so only part of the tube body is remaining and the key post head is just covered by the shaft of the key.

Pleace this key into the keyhole with the back end of the key post lined up with the hole it came out of. A slight tap by a light hammer and it is back in place as clean as if it were factory done.

The broken key acts as a guide preventing the post from being knocked in crooked and also ensures the head of the key post on the keyhole side is not disfigured as it would be were you to try and tap it back in with say, a ball peen hammer.

Good as new!

Steve Santini

Hello,

I purchased 2 pair of new sirchie handcuffs off ebay a couple months ago; they were very stiff when I got them and they were double locked. The locked were going to require a fairly stiff hand on the key but if you face the same situation DON'T USE THE STOCK KEY! Man it is made of junk pot metal. I broke 2 bits off in the nicer of the 2 sets. I switched to a Smith and Wesson key and was able to free up the other set. I could tell from the broke piece that they were pot-metal.

Anyway, anybody got a good trick for removing key bits? I've tried 2 needles but just can't seem to get it. Maybe I need better nerves.

Tim

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Santini's post is right on the mark. It's the easiest and best way to recover your cuffs. Also soak them in petrol/gasoline as the Sirchie cuffs I have have dried out greese on them, don't try your keys until they are clean and lubricated again.

Ian

Hello,

I purchased 2 pair of new sirchie handcuffs off ebay a couple months ago; they were very stiff when I got them and they were double locked. The locked were going to require a fairly stiff hand on the key but if you face the same situation DON'T USE THE STOCK KEY! Man it is made of junk pot metal. I broke 2 bits off in the nicer of the 2 sets. I switched to a Smith and Wesson key and was able to free up the other set. I could tell from the broke piece that they were pot-metal.

Anyway, anybody got a good trick for removing key bits? I've tried 2 needles but just can't seem to get it. Maybe I need better nerves.

Tim

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" greese" is the technical term, most of you may know it as "Grease" (hee hee)


Ian

Hello,

I purchased 2 pair of new sirchie handcuffs off ebay a couple months ago; they were very stiff when I got them and they were double locked. The locked were going to require a fairly stiff hand on the key but if you face the same situation DON'T USE THE STOCK KEY! Man it is made of junk pot metal. I broke 2 bits off in the nicer of the 2 sets. I switched to a Smith and Wesson key and was able to free up the other set. I could tell from the broke piece that they were pot-metal.

Anyway, anybody got a good trick for removing key bits? I've tried 2 needles but just can't seem to get it. Maybe I need better nerves.

Tim

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According to NAROIL - oil and Petrochemical Market Place "Lubricating Greese
Shall include all greases and lubricants generally used to prevent wear due to friction in any application"
Stan

Hello,

I purchased 2 pair of new sirchie handcuffs off ebay a couple months ago; they were very stiff when I got them and they were double locked. The locked were going to require a fairly stiff hand on the key but if you face the same situation DON'T USE THE STOCK KEY! Man it is made of junk pot metal. I broke 2 bits off in the nicer of the 2 sets. I switched to a Smith and Wesson key and was able to free up the other set. I could tell from the broke piece that they were pot-metal.

Anyway, anybody got a good trick for removing key bits? I've tried 2 needles but just can't seem to get it. Maybe I need better nerves.

Tim

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Grease

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Conventionality belongs to yesterday
There is a chance that we can make it so far
We start believing now that we can be wo we are

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Grease is the way we are feeling
This is the life of illusion
Wrapped up in trouble laced with confusion
What we doing here?

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We start believing now that we can be who we are

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It's got groove it's got meaning
Grease is the time, is the place is the motion
Grease is the way we are feeling

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Grease is the way we are feeling

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Hello,

I purchased 2 pair of new sirchie handcuffs off ebay a couple months ago; they were very stiff when I got them and they were double locked. The locked were going to require a fairly stiff hand on the key but if you face the same situation DON'T USE THE STOCK KEY! Man it is made of junk pot metal. I broke 2 bits off in the nicer of the 2 sets. I switched to a Smith and Wesson key and was able to free up the other set. I could tell from the broke piece that they were pot-metal.

Anyway, anybody got a good trick for removing key bits? I've tried 2 needles but just can't seem to get it. Maybe I need better nerves.

Tim

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Thanks for the tips! I wondered about taking the post out but I didn't think it would be possible to get it back in. Never thought of using the key!

Tim

Hello,

I purchased 2 pair of new sirchie handcuffs off ebay a couple months ago; they were very stiff when I got them and they were double locked. The locked were going to require a fairly stiff hand on the key but if you face the same situation DON'T USE THE STOCK KEY! Man it is made of junk pot metal. I broke 2 bits off in the nicer of the 2 sets. I switched to a Smith and Wesson key and was able to free up the other set. I could tell from the broke piece that they were pot-metal.

Anyway, anybody got a good trick for removing key bits? I've tried 2 needles but just can't seem to get it. Maybe I need better nerves.

Tim

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If you have a drill press or access to one, you can use that and broken drill bit of the right diameter to push the pin out and close the chuck and use it as a arbor press and push the pin back in. That is what I do in taking modern handcuffs apart all the time. One more think, I flip the drill bit and put it in backwards when I do it and use a bit just smaller in diameter than the pin you are pushing out.

-Dorson

Hello,

I purchased 2 pair of new sirchie handcuffs off ebay a couple months ago; they were very stiff when I got them and they were double locked. The locked were going to require a fairly stiff hand on the key but if you face the same situation DON'T USE THE STOCK KEY! Man it is made of junk pot metal. I broke 2 bits off in the nicer of the 2 sets. I switched to a Smith and Wesson key and was able to free up the other set. I could tell from the broke piece that they were pot-metal.

Anyway, anybody got a good trick for removing key bits? I've tried 2 needles but just can't seem to get it. Maybe I need better nerves.

Tim

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Basically a good idea except for one thing...

Drill bits are tempered and can be brittle depending on the bit.

A slight bit of pressure not applied evenly in a down forcing motion and the bit can snap off it the hole previously occupied by the post.

A good idea but I would imagine care must be used.

Steve Santini

Hello,

I purchased 2 pair of new sirchie handcuffs off ebay a couple months ago; they were very stiff when I got them and they were double locked. The locked were going to require a fairly stiff hand on the key but if you face the same situation DON'T USE THE STOCK KEY! Man it is made of junk pot metal. I broke 2 bits off in the nicer of the 2 sets. I switched to a Smith and Wesson key and was able to free up the other set. I could tell from the broke piece that they were pot-metal.

Anyway, anybody got a good trick for removing key bits? I've tried 2 needles but just can't seem to get it. Maybe I need better nerves.

Tim

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Guess I should mention to choke up on the bit so like 1/4 - 3/8" stick out from the chuck and be sure to tighten securely... And to have nothing on the other side to stop the pin from coming out. I general open the jaws on a vice and center it so the pin will fall out.

-Dorson