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When is a handcuff NOT a handcuff?

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Mark Lyons 16 Oct 2012
#1
I just returned from a wonderful Euro vacation and saw some good friends and lots of cuffs and stuff.
The below picture was taken at Lake Geneva, Switzerland at the end of a sidewalk. I imagine that this clamp was used to hold a pipe or rod to control traffic at this location. There was no mate or similar post at any of the other corners of the intersection.
If someone were to remove this from the stone pillar and put it on eBay, it would certainly fool quite a few of us into believing that it was an old dungeon restraint.
The finger protrusion within the inner upper circumference was undoubtedly used to prevent the pipe from spinning when inserted into a drilled or punched out hole.
I think it might have fit my wrist or appeared to be the right size for a 16th century sized Swiss criminal.



Mark
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Anonymous 16 Oct 2012
#2
When is a handcuff not a handcuff/ When it's a leg iron.

That inside post might have been there to keep peoples hands turned palm down. If they could twist them palm up, someone might think they were begging.
Mark Lyons 17 Oct 2012
#3
I just returned from a wonderful Euro vacation and saw some good friends and lots of cuffs and stuff.
The below picture was taken at Lake Geneva, Switzerland at the end of a sidewalk. I imagine that this clamp was used to hold a pipe or rod to control traffic at this location. There was no mate or similar post at any of the other corners of the intersection.
If someone were to remove this from the stone pillar and put it on eBay, it would certainly fool quite a few of us into believing that it was an old dungeon restraint.
The finger protrusion within the inner upper circumference was undoubtedly used to prevent the pipe from spinning when inserted into a drilled or punched out hole.
I think it might have fit my wrist or appeared to be the right size for a 16th century sized Swiss criminal.



Mark
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I..........say no!!!!

If this was a restraint, they would have just made the top section of the cuff flat and would have been much easier to make this cuff by not having to add a post.


Mark
O--O
Ian McColl 17 Oct 2012
#4
I just returned from a wonderful Euro vacation and saw some good friends and lots of cuffs and stuff.
The below picture was taken at Lake Geneva, Switzerland at the end of a sidewalk. I imagine that this clamp was used to hold a pipe or rod to control traffic at this location. There was no mate or similar post at any of the other corners of the intersection.
If someone were to remove this from the stone pillar and put it on eBay, it would certainly fool quite a few of us into believing that it was an old dungeon restraint.
The finger protrusion within the inner upper circumference was undoubtedly used to prevent the pipe from spinning when inserted into a drilled or punched out hole.
I think it might have fit my wrist or appeared to be the right size for a 16th century sized Swiss criminal.



Mark
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Mark don't reply to anon posters, because you don't know who they are, you cannot tell from their posting and emails if they are the type to make a joke or complete idiot. Usually the post will be anon because they have no idea but need to be heard and cannot be held to account for making silly comments.

Thanks for posting the pics and glad you had a great trip.
Anonymous 17 Oct 2012
#5
I just returned from a wonderful Euro vacation and saw some good friends and lots of cuffs and stuff.
The below picture was taken at Lake Geneva, Switzerland at the end of a sidewalk. I imagine that this clamp was used to hold a pipe or rod to control traffic at this location. There was no mate or similar post at any of the other corners of the intersection.
If someone were to remove this from the stone pillar and put it on eBay, it would certainly fool quite a few of us into believing that it was an old dungeon restraint.
The finger protrusion within the inner upper circumference was undoubtedly used to prevent the pipe from spinning when inserted into a drilled or punched out hole.
I think it might have fit my wrist or appeared to be the right size for a 16th century sized Swiss criminal.



Mark
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Hey I post anon but at least I leave an email
Mark Lyons 17 Oct 2012
#6
I just returned from a wonderful Euro vacation and saw some good friends and lots of cuffs and stuff.
The below picture was taken at Lake Geneva, Switzerland at the end of a sidewalk. I imagine that this clamp was used to hold a pipe or rod to control traffic at this location. There was no mate or similar post at any of the other corners of the intersection.
If someone were to remove this from the stone pillar and put it on eBay, it would certainly fool quite a few of us into believing that it was an old dungeon restraint.
The finger protrusion within the inner upper circumference was undoubtedly used to prevent the pipe from spinning when inserted into a drilled or punched out hole.
I think it might have fit my wrist or appeared to be the right size for a 16th century sized Swiss criminal.



Mark
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Ian, yes, anon posters can be trying at times.
I will discuss a topic and let it run its course until I see that it is nearing its limit in intelligibility.
I realize that some want to ask a question or want to do some business here without the need of registering, so I will respond cautiously.

The conventions are a great deal of fun, but I think the couple we attended together will never be duplicated again. I am happy that we had the memories from the LA conventions to keep in our minds forever (and available on dvd from Jay Leslie Productions)

The Euro convention is structured very differently, but has great merit in its own ways.
It was a fantastic trip.
Thanks


mark
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anon 17 Oct 2012
#7
I just returned from a wonderful Euro vacation and saw some good friends and lots of cuffs and stuff.
The below picture was taken at Lake Geneva, Switzerland at the end of a sidewalk. I imagine that this clamp was used to hold a pipe or rod to control traffic at this location. There was no mate or similar post at any of the other corners of the intersection.
If someone were to remove this from the stone pillar and put it on eBay, it would certainly fool quite a few of us into believing that it was an old dungeon restraint.
The finger protrusion within the inner upper circumference was undoubtedly used to prevent the pipe from spinning when inserted into a drilled or punched out hole.
I think it might have fit my wrist or appeared to be the right size for a 16th century sized Swiss criminal.



Mark
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But mark your explanation sounds like the most realistic. But there's only one way to find out why its there simply ask one of the officials there and see what kinds of stories they come up with.
Mark 17 Oct 2012
#8
I just returned from a wonderful Euro vacation and saw some good friends and lots of cuffs and stuff.
The below picture was taken at Lake Geneva, Switzerland at the end of a sidewalk. I imagine that this clamp was used to hold a pipe or rod to control traffic at this location. There was no mate or similar post at any of the other corners of the intersection.
If someone were to remove this from the stone pillar and put it on eBay, it would certainly fool quite a few of us into believing that it was an old dungeon restraint.
The finger protrusion within the inner upper circumference was undoubtedly used to prevent the pipe from spinning when inserted into a drilled or punched out hole.
I think it might have fit my wrist or appeared to be the right size for a 16th century sized Swiss criminal.



Mark
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Well, I did have the chance to discuss this matter with the top official in the city, the mayor.
Somehow, I don't think he is the go to guy on restraints or deadend barricades.





mark
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MrGashog 28 Oct 2012
#9
I just returned from a wonderful Euro vacation and saw some good friends and lots of cuffs and stuff.
The below picture was taken at Lake Geneva, Switzerland at the end of a sidewalk. I imagine that this clamp was used to hold a pipe or rod to control traffic at this location. There was no mate or similar post at any of the other corners of the intersection.
If someone were to remove this from the stone pillar and put it on eBay, it would certainly fool quite a few of us into believing that it was an old dungeon restraint.
The finger protrusion within the inner upper circumference was undoubtedly used to prevent the pipe from spinning when inserted into a drilled or punched out hole.
I think it might have fit my wrist or appeared to be the right size for a 16th century sized Swiss criminal.



Mark
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A long shaft of hardwood goes through that shackle.
The pin in the top holds it from slipping and a couple of mules would pull the stone round and round.
Anonymous 28 Oct 2012
#10
I just returned from a wonderful Euro vacation and saw some good friends and lots of cuffs and stuff.
The below picture was taken at Lake Geneva, Switzerland at the end of a sidewalk. I imagine that this clamp was used to hold a pipe or rod to control traffic at this location. There was no mate or similar post at any of the other corners of the intersection.
If someone were to remove this from the stone pillar and put it on eBay, it would certainly fool quite a few of us into believing that it was an old dungeon restraint.
The finger protrusion within the inner upper circumference was undoubtedly used to prevent the pipe from spinning when inserted into a drilled or punched out hole.
I think it might have fit my wrist or appeared to be the right size for a 16th century sized Swiss criminal.



Mark
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.... and this would be for the mules' entertainment?