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Abus cuffs or are they luggage locks?

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jay leslie 14 Nov 2012
#1
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-ABUS-ha ... 4abe643094

Years ago someone told me these were luggage holders/locks to put a few bags together - that way it's harder to run away with just one bag - and easier to carry all of them.

So, Are these luggage carriers or cuffs?
Mark Lyons 14 Nov 2012
#2
Hey Jay,

To answer your question, Yes and no.

Hope that helped.






These locks are designed to be a handle for duffel bags....but only one handle per bag.
Kit bags, as they were called, were used by US Navy sailors and maybe the Navy stole the idea from some other navy or possibly originated it. A sailor could secure his belonging (minus a knife attack) and could transport his bag with the handle lock. This dual purpose lock made it popular, even though the duffel bag had a sewn in handle of the side of the bag.

Did anyone ever lock 2 or more bags together to make it hard to run off with them? It is possible. Just like a 3 handed handcuff may have locked 3 bad guys together to restrict movement, it was probably made to lock one prisoner to his leg irons or a stationary object.

These kit bags have been sold as cuffs forever but fortunately, I have never seen one in any one's collection anywhere in the world.

Buyer Beware!


mark
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Anonymous 14 Nov 2012
#3
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-ABUS-ha ... 4abe643094

Years ago someone told me these were luggage holders/locks to put a few bags together - that way it's harder to run away with just one bag - and easier to carry all of them.

So, Are these luggage carriers or cuffs?
Ian McColl 14 Nov 2012
#4
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-ABUS-ha ... 4abe643094

Years ago someone told me these were luggage holders/locks to put a few bags together - that way it's harder to run away with just one bag - and easier to carry all of them.

So, Are these luggage carriers or cuffs?
Anon, the photo is not how the lock is used. Another incorrect Anon post. even wrong bag

users don't believe people who post as anon or any other variation.
Michael Busch 14 Nov 2012
#5
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-ABUS-ha ... 4abe643094

Years ago someone told me these were luggage holders/locks to put a few bags together - that way it's harder to run away with just one bag - and easier to carry all of them.

So, Are these luggage carriers or cuffs?
Hi everyone,

the picture below shows part of the so-called "Seesack" and its closure/handle. The items are German army issue, at least they were back in 1986/87 during my service time.

best,

Michael

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Nils 14 Nov 2012
#6
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-ABUS-ha ... 4abe643094

Years ago someone told me these were luggage holders/locks to put a few bags together - that way it's harder to run away with just one bag - and easier to carry all of them.

So, Are these luggage carriers or cuffs?
I concur with Michael. Back in 1994, I was also issued this bag together with the lock. It's fairly handy, because you can safely seal the bag and also add a padlock, if required.

They are by no means handcuffs. The seller knows this, but that does not keep keep from making repeated fraudulent offers claiming they are something they are not.

Those locks were made by the thousands and are maybe worth $1 each.

Nils
Anonymous 14 Nov 2012
#7
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-ABUS-ha ... 4abe643094

Years ago someone told me these were luggage holders/locks to put a few bags together - that way it's harder to run away with just one bag - and easier to carry all of them.

So, Are these luggage carriers or cuffs?
Ian is wrong.
The first picture does accuately depict the bag and the lock. I put it there to show the lock and the kind of bag it secures.
The rope needs to be removed to allow the proper application of the lock as the shackle would go through ALL of the brass grommets to secure the bag as in Micheals picture.
Anonymous 14 Nov 2012
#8
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-ABUS-ha ... 4abe643094

Years ago someone told me these were luggage holders/locks to put a few bags together - that way it's harder to run away with just one bag - and easier to carry all of them.

So, Are these luggage carriers or cuffs?
http://www.google.com/patents?id=JSRfAA ... &q&f=false
Ian McColl 14 Nov 2012
#9
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-ABUS-ha ... 4abe643094

Years ago someone told me these were luggage holders/locks to put a few bags together - that way it's harder to run away with just one bag - and easier to carry all of them.

So, Are these luggage carriers or cuffs?
Thanks Michael for the photo.
Michael Busch 15 Nov 2012
#10
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-ABUS-ha ... 4abe643094

Years ago someone told me these were luggage holders/locks to put a few bags together - that way it's harder to run away with just one bag - and easier to carry all of them.

So, Are these luggage carriers or cuffs?
Hi Ian,

you're welcome!

Michael
Ron Spitz 15 Nov 2012
#11
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-ABUS-ha ... 4abe643094

Years ago someone told me these were luggage holders/locks to put a few bags together - that way it's harder to run away with just one bag - and easier to carry all of them.

So, Are these luggage carriers or cuffs?
These indeed are not handcuffs. Like Michael and others have stated they were used to close and lock their military issued bags.

This type of locking device goes back many years. World War 1 had an old song that referred to your kit bag which used this type of lock and handle.

I have one that was used by a San Francisco banker in the mid 1800's and is marked with the company name. Many older British examples have the lock built into the handle and some are hallmarked.

Ron