Clejuso 103 problem

Hi,

an officer of a german prison told me about a specific problem with the Clejuso 103 leg iron. In this prison these restraints are daily used and stressed.

The Clejuso 103 leg iron has like the Clejuso 101/102 handcuffs a special lock. They are double locked and opened with a safety key not a standard key.

The particular problem is, the double lock opens self-acting when the bows are forcefully pulled. This also happens when the prisoner strides very intense.

Since the double lock fails the leg iron is not secured and could be opened by skilled persons. The officer also told that the manufacturer Clejuso don't know anything about this problem. Maybe an internal part of the cuffs is slightly bent (estimated by Clejuso).

Does anybody know more about this problem? What is to do to solve it?

They need "save" leg irons in this prison and they think about alternative leg irons such as Rivolier. For there were at least one attempt to escape they don't want some "normally" double lock leg irons.

Maybe some of you could propose some hints.

Best regards
Enris, Germany

Hi, there was talk here before about a problem with the Celjuso and I think it was the heavy weight handcuff. It appears that is the bow is struck hard, while the cuff is deadlock that the deadlock bar breaks. Maybe it bends firsts and causes the problem.

I think you would have to search through all the thread subjects to find it. ( It was about 18 months to 2 years ago)

Ian

Hi,

an officer of a german prison told me about a specific problem with the Clejuso 103 leg iron. In this prison these restraints are daily used and stressed.

The Clejuso 103 leg iron has like the Clejuso 101/102 handcuffs a special lock. They are double locked and opened with a safety key not a standard key.

The particular problem is, the double lock opens self-acting when the bows are forcefully pulled. This also happens when the prisoner strides very intense.

Since the double lock fails the leg iron is not secured and could be opened by skilled persons. The officer also told that the manufacturer Clejuso don't know anything about this problem. Maybe an internal part of the cuffs is slightly bent (estimated by Clejuso).

Does anybody know more about this problem? What is to do to solve it?

They need "save" leg irons in this prison and they think about alternative leg irons such as Rivolier. For there were at least one attempt to escape they don't want some "normally" double lock leg irons.

Maybe some of you could propose some hints.

Best regards
Enris, Germany

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Hi,

I know about a problem with a broken part of a Clejuso No. 13 and I have seen the damage myself in 2001. I talked with the owner of the Clejuso No. 13 and the locksmith repairing the cuffs. Some pictures are shown on my website:
http://www.handschellen.org/sammlung/cjs06.html

(I will also read the discussion here. Maybe it's another problem concerning the same model.)

In the case I have seen it seemed the broken part is made of brittle metal or kind of cast iron. The locksmith wanted to mill-out a new part of more "flexible" steel (sorry, I don't know the correct technical terms).

As you described the deadlock bar could first bend and they may break as result? This sounds alarming to me because it concerns violent criminals.

Kind regards
Enris, Germany

btw The officer told me they did not longer use the Hamburger Acht in Northern Germany since a prisoner in a South-German high security prison could open them by striking them hard against the wall. Some parts of the internal mechanic were broken because they were also made of some brittle material.

Hi,

an officer of a german prison told me about a specific problem with the Clejuso 103 leg iron. In this prison these restraints are daily used and stressed.

The Clejuso 103 leg iron has like the Clejuso 101/102 handcuffs a special lock. They are double locked and opened with a safety key not a standard key.

The particular problem is, the double lock opens self-acting when the bows are forcefully pulled. This also happens when the prisoner strides very intense.

Since the double lock fails the leg iron is not secured and could be opened by skilled persons. The officer also told that the manufacturer Clejuso don't know anything about this problem. Maybe an internal part of the cuffs is slightly bent (estimated by Clejuso).

Does anybody know more about this problem? What is to do to solve it?

They need "save" leg irons in this prison and they think about alternative leg irons such as Rivolier. For there were at least one attempt to escape they don't want some "normally" double lock leg irons.

Maybe some of you could propose some hints.

Best regards
Enris, Germany

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Hi,

just read the discussion in the archived forum. I think it is right the same cuff. It was shown at a smaller collector's convent in Germany. Maybe the Clejuso-13-problem is not relating to the model but to the particular cuff. Could be a fault in casting (an air/gas bubble or something).

The Clejuso 103 is a newer construction. So I guess their mechanic is different.

If the problem could not be identified and solved: What about Rivolier model 3043 as alternative solution? Are there any specific problems known?

Kind regards
Enris, Germany

Hi,

an officer of a german prison told me about a specific problem with the Clejuso 103 leg iron. In this prison these restraints are daily used and stressed.

The Clejuso 103 leg iron has like the Clejuso 101/102 handcuffs a special lock. They are double locked and opened with a safety key not a standard key.

The particular problem is, the double lock opens self-acting when the bows are forcefully pulled. This also happens when the prisoner strides very intense.

Since the double lock fails the leg iron is not secured and could be opened by skilled persons. The officer also told that the manufacturer Clejuso don't know anything about this problem. Maybe an internal part of the cuffs is slightly bent (estimated by Clejuso).

Does anybody know more about this problem? What is to do to solve it?

They need "save" leg irons in this prison and they think about alternative leg irons such as Rivolier. For there were at least one attempt to escape they don't want some "normally" double lock leg irons.

Maybe some of you could propose some hints.

Best regards
Enris, Germany

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From your website pictures I see the problem with the model 13. Something I call pot metal, ZnAl alloy which is know for breaking under those conditions. One of three solutions is to make it of steel using powdered metal process or making if from cast steel and milled steel.

-Dorson

Hi,

an officer of a german prison told me about a specific problem with the Clejuso 103 leg iron. In this prison these restraints are daily used and stressed.

The Clejuso 103 leg iron has like the Clejuso 101/102 handcuffs a special lock. They are double locked and opened with a safety key not a standard key.

The particular problem is, the double lock opens self-acting when the bows are forcefully pulled. This also happens when the prisoner strides very intense.

Since the double lock fails the leg iron is not secured and could be opened by skilled persons. The officer also told that the manufacturer Clejuso don't know anything about this problem. Maybe an internal part of the cuffs is slightly bent (estimated by Clejuso).

Does anybody know more about this problem? What is to do to solve it?

They need "save" leg irons in this prison and they think about alternative leg irons such as Rivolier. For there were at least one attempt to escape they don't want some "normally" double lock leg irons.

Maybe some of you could propose some hints.

Best regards
Enris, Germany

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Hi Dorson, the powdered metal process (Sinter) isn't any good either as it is brittle and can fracture. The new Peerless cuffs (someone will help me out with the model number) some years back were 'sintered' and although the cuff was the best Peerless in weight, handling and look (my opinion) It was discontinued very quickly. never to be repeated.

Either a folded, cast or milled piece would do it as you say.

Ian

Hi,

an officer of a german prison told me about a specific problem with the Clejuso 103 leg iron. In this prison these restraints are daily used and stressed.

The Clejuso 103 leg iron has like the Clejuso 101/102 handcuffs a special lock. They are double locked and opened with a safety key not a standard key.

The particular problem is, the double lock opens self-acting when the bows are forcefully pulled. This also happens when the prisoner strides very intense.

Since the double lock fails the leg iron is not secured and could be opened by skilled persons. The officer also told that the manufacturer Clejuso don't know anything about this problem. Maybe an internal part of the cuffs is slightly bent (estimated by Clejuso).

Does anybody know more about this problem? What is to do to solve it?

They need "save" leg irons in this prison and they think about alternative leg irons such as Rivolier. For there were at least one attempt to escape they don't want some "normally" double lock leg irons.

Maybe some of you could propose some hints.

Best regards
Enris, Germany

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Model 400

Hi,

an officer of a german prison told me about a specific problem with the Clejuso 103 leg iron. In this prison these restraints are daily used and stressed.

The Clejuso 103 leg iron has like the Clejuso 101/102 handcuffs a special lock. They are double locked and opened with a safety key not a standard key.

The particular problem is, the double lock opens self-acting when the bows are forcefully pulled. This also happens when the prisoner strides very intense.

Since the double lock fails the leg iron is not secured and could be opened by skilled persons. The officer also told that the manufacturer Clejuso don't know anything about this problem. Maybe an internal part of the cuffs is slightly bent (estimated by Clejuso).

Does anybody know more about this problem? What is to do to solve it?

They need "save" leg irons in this prison and they think about alternative leg irons such as Rivolier. For there were at least one attempt to escape they don't want some "normally" double lock leg irons.

Maybe some of you could propose some hints.

Best regards
Enris, Germany

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Thanks Stan, you would happen to have one for sale?

Ian
PS, I can say with confidence that it was the Peerless 400.( I knew that! )