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manettejman_125 24 May 2005
#1
I have buy this thumbcuff and i have some question for you: specilist
is this french?
Have you idea of date or manufactered of this and the value?
Thank you very much for your help.













Manette

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Atame 24 May 2005
#2
Hi,

I've never seen something like that before, so I unfortunately can't say anything about age and origin. It does not look like the typical French Thumb Bagno. In my eyes it does not look like a restraint at all. It looks rather like a torture device. Or maybe the tool is even used for something else, not for restraining or torturing people but e.g. for holding something together.

Regards,
Guenter aka Atame
www.atame.info
Joe Lauher 24 May 2005
#3
I have buy this thumbcuff and i have some question for you: specilist
is this french?
Have you idea of date or manufactered of this and the value?
Thank you very much for your help.













Manette

http://www.isman.it/manette/
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I agree with Guenter, I don't think it is a restraint. I think it is a tool are clamp used for some manufacturing or repair function.

Near item though

Joe
Steve Santini 24 May 2005
#4
I have buy this thumbcuff and i have some question for you: specilist
is this french?
Have you idea of date or manufactered of this and the value?
Thank you very much for your help.













Manette

http://www.isman.it/manette/
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This is a nut cracker.

Steve
Mark Lyons 25 May 2005
#5
I have buy this thumbcuff and i have some question for you: specilist
is this french?
Have you idea of date or manufactered of this and the value?
Thank you very much for your help.













Manette

http://www.isman.it/manette/
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Guenter, I agree that this is not a restraint. The size is too large for the thumbs and too small for the wrists. Another thought to support my theory is that most Thumbkins and Bagnos have one or two tabs to accomodate a padlock to secure them upon the prisoner. This "restraint" is void of any.
I just happened to be in a plumbing supply company today and on the wall they had a pair of vice grips with circular clamps welded on. This was to be used as a temporary pipe clamp. There were other versions of pipe clamps and one or two of those resembled the above pictured device. My money is on it being some sort of temporary pipe or hose clamp. m
Steve Santini 25 May 2005
#6
I have buy this thumbcuff and i have some question for you: specilist
is this french?
Have you idea of date or manufactered of this and the value?
Thank you very much for your help.













Manette

http://www.isman.it/manette/
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Not to mean to disagree with Mark, but many versions of pipe clamps are meant to be applied around a pipe or section of pipes that are already joined.

And, just like the modified vice grips and other clamps he saw for pipes in the store, such a clamp usually has one "open" side so that it can be fitted over any area of the pipe and then screwed down tight.

This curious device might not work so well for such a purpose. Because it does not have an "open" side to the jaw, it would have to be slid along a length of pipe until it reached the appropriate spot.

Then, and once the reapir was made, how would one go about getting it off?

It would be trapped and held captive and thus rendered useless for future work.

If you go on ebay and seach for antique nut crackers, you can on occassion see examples show up that operate on a screw down principal.

And, of course, the nut (i.e. wallnut, etc) can be inserted from either side hence no open section to the jaws is needed.

This is just my opinion on what I think this is and why I think it.

A real mystery device to be sure!

Steve Santini

Steve Santini 25 May 2005
#7
I have buy this thumbcuff and i have some question for you: specilist
is this french?
Have you idea of date or manufactered of this and the value?
Thank you very much for your help.













Manette

http://www.isman.it/manette/
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One thought just came to me on another possible solution/purpose for this thing.

Perhaps it is a device for opening small necked lidded jars or containers?

A person would fit it over the lid of a container and it would be screwed down and then assist in the unscrewing of the lid.

This might work but I imagine if this was really it's purpose it should have serrated jaws to better grip what it might be trying to unscrew.

The mystery deepens...

Steve Santini
chris65 25 May 2005
#8
I have buy this thumbcuff and i have some question for you: specilist
is this french?
Have you idea of date or manufactered of this and the value?
Thank you very much for your help.













Manette

http://www.isman.it/manette/
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i agree with steve, this most certainly looks like a nut cracker to me, as steve points out, there are many unusual crackers out there!.....
Atame 25 May 2005
#9
I have buy this thumbcuff and i have some question for you: specilist
is this french?
Have you idea of date or manufactered of this and the value?
Thank you very much for your help.













Manette

http://www.isman.it/manette/
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A tool meant for opening bottles with strong going screw cap, perhaps?

Regards,
Guenter aka Atame