New design cuffs with unique key

Just received it and send Mikeintightpants a pair, he will post a review shortly.
Here is a brief video of how the key works:
https://youtu.be/3u115nI-aYI

interesting cuff, you would need a compliant prisoner.

Just received it and send Mikeintightpants a pair, he will post a review shortly.
Here is a brief video of how the key works:
https://youtu.be/3u115nI-aYI

Many thanks Asiancuffs, the SuperPTC cuffs safely received. I'll take some pics over the weekend and then post more information here within the next few days.

Just received it and send Mikeintightpants a pair, he will post a review shortly.
Here is a brief video of how the key works:
https://youtu.be/3u115nI-aYI

What dealer sells these?

Just received it and send Mikeintightpants a pair, he will post a review shortly.
Here is a brief video of how the key works:
https://youtu.be/3u115nI-aYI

These are extremely well made cuffs - well-engineered, weighty and with an excellent finish.

The design is innovative and although visually they look rather like the old H&R Super cuffs (and also like many copies of those H&Rs that have been produced over the years) the locking mechanism and the key are entirely unique. One of the "fun" things to do with a pair of the H&R Supers is to hand them to someone and tell them to find the keyhole ..... some do and some don't - but with the Super PTC cuffs there aren't any keyholes - certainly not conventional keyholes.



The keyholes actually consist of 6 small closely spaced holes on each side of each cuff, that is 12 holes on each cuff, a total of 24 holes for the pair of cuffs.



The key consists of 2 parts, joined together by a strong plastic spiral and each part of the key has 6 pins that line up with the small holes on the cuff. It should be noted that the pins are of different lengths. Both parts of the key have to be inserted into the 6 respective holes on each side of the cuff at the same time.
However, initially the cuffs are applied in exactly the same way as conventional swing-through cuffs and adjusted for an appropriate fit on the wrists. The actions of both double-locking and subsequent unlocking of the cuffs both require the use of the 2-part key in conjunction with operation of the small ridged slider that is located underneath each cuff between the two sets of holes. These two operations of double-locking and subsequently unlocking the cuffs are fairly complicated - although easy when you know how!



This is Chris Gower (with Weasel Dandaw in the background but out-of-shot) helping me to figure out how these superb Super PTC cuffs work - at this time I was doing the easy bit, acting as photographer. And yes, before you ask, the photo was taken in a pub in the south of England.

And finally, my sincere thanks to Asiancuffs who sent me these beauties - thank you my friend.

Just received it and send Mikeintightpants a pair, he will post a review shortly.
Here is a brief video of how the key works:
https://youtu.be/3u115nI-aYI

Are they on the market?
Are sales restricted?
Am I asking the wrong questions?

Just received it and send Mikeintightpants a pair, he will post a review shortly.
Here is a brief video of how the key works:
https://youtu.be/3u115nI-aYI

The answer to all 3 of those questions is ..... "I don't know".

Just received it and send Mikeintightpants a pair, he will post a review shortly.
Here is a brief video of how the key works:
https://youtu.be/3u115nI-aYI

It was great to be able to see these cuffs last week, their mechanism is unique and are the only handcuffs made that do require two keys to be inserted at the same time to open them. It is just a pity that the two keys are also needed to double lock them. The key had six pins on it and is symmetrical and there appears to be just two different heights, this would give a combination of 8 different keys with 6 that are usable (ie the two combinations where all the pins are the same).
In my mind even given the keys and handcuffed with the palms facing outward, escape would be impossible, unless someone knows better!!
Thanks Mike for taking the effort in driving 250 miles to see me last week and allowing me to see the cuffs. As you say the answer to the question about availability etc. is 'I do not know'
Chris

Just received it and send Mikeintightpants a pair, he will post a review shortly.
Here is a brief video of how the key works:
https://youtu.be/3u115nI-aYI

Glad that 3 experts examine the cuffs and provide reviews.
I am contacting the supplier and see if I can get some more for fellow collectors. You will be looking at US$90-95 per pair (including postage, depends on your location).
For your advance information, the manufacturer is working on improving the design of the double lock that don't need to insert the keys to engage it. Furthermore, they are also improving the level of security to have 3 teeth lengths which will increase the combination to ?? (I am not good at arithmetic)

A-A-B
A-A-C
A-B-C
A-B-B
B-A-C.........

Just received it and send Mikeintightpants a pair, he will post a review shortly.
Here is a brief video of how the key works:
https://youtu.be/3u115nI-aYI

Sounds a good plan that the manufacturers are trying to modify the double locking method and increase the number of pins. If they increase the number to 3 heights that would give 27 possible combinations with 24 usable.
Can you put me down for a pair if you can get some more. Thanks, Chris

Just received it and send Mikeintightpants a pair, he will post a review shortly.
Here is a brief video of how the key works:
https://youtu.be/3u115nI-aYI

A fascinating design.
From a practicality standpoint, though, I could see it go the way of the S&W model 94.

Just received it and send Mikeintightpants a pair, he will post a review shortly.
Here is a brief video of how the key works:
https://youtu.be/3u115nI-aYI

Hi Howard,
Please put me down for a pair if you can get them.
Regards,
Peter

Just received it and send Mikeintightpants a pair, he will post a review shortly.
Here is a brief video of how the key works:
https://youtu.be/3u115nI-aYI

Hi Howard,

It has been too long !!

I would also be interested in a pair and as always, if you have several US collectors who want a pair, they can all come to me where I can send them out to save some time, trouble, and money.


Thanks. Hope all is well.

mark
O--O

Just received it and send Mikeintightpants a pair, he will post a review shortly.
Here is a brief video of how the key works:
https://youtu.be/3u115nI-aYI

I really want to add these unique cuffs to many I own already

Just received it and send Mikeintightpants a pair, he will post a review shortly.
Here is a brief video of how the key works:
https://youtu.be/3u115nI-aYI

Yes please, I'll take a pair of the modified design when they're available.

Just received it and send Mikeintightpants a pair, he will post a review shortly.
Here is a brief video of how the key works:
https://youtu.be/3u115nI-aYI

I'll take one please!

Just received it and send Mikeintightpants a pair, he will post a review shortly.
Here is a brief video of how the key works:
https://youtu.be/3u115nI-aYI

I would also like one please.

Just received it and send Mikeintightpants a pair, he will post a review shortly.
Here is a brief video of how the key works:
https://youtu.be/3u115nI-aYI

I would be interested in a pair too.

Has anyone else managed to get a pair of these?

Yes, I have a set of the Super PTC Cuffs. I got them from another collector. Im sure if he has more available, he will chime in with an offer.
-Richard Knip-

One of these made it to Belgium

Thanks Richard, I do have a couple of pairs left if interesred @CuffedUpInIrish 

james.slips wrote: ↑

Sep 12, 2022

Thanks Richard, I do have a couple of pairs left if interesred @CuffedUpInIrish 

Message sent, Ron J

They also made a Legiron that needs the two keys to open then. Photo attached of the Combination Set in my collection - think this is the only one in private hands.
I think I have a set of the cuffs spare but would rather trade for them rather than sell. Does anyone here have the Chinese H&R type cuffs with the keyway on the side?

Thanks everyone for the interest, been a bit surprised by the response to be honest. Bear with me, they're at my storage locker, I'm not exactly sure how many I have there, I purchased these quite a while ago and have been there ever since. I'll get back to folks on a first contact basis. I'm not much of a seller and have a ridiculously busy life so going to the post office is not something that gets priority, but I won't accept any money until I have them 'in hand' from storage and I'm ready to ship. Thanks. Oh, and I am in the USA, so shipping costs would be from USA.

james.slips wrote: ↑

Sep 14, 2022

Thanks everyone for the interest, been a bit surprised by the response to be honest. Bear with me, they're at my storage locker, I'm not exactly sure how many I have there, I purchased these quite a while ago and have been there ever since. I'll get back to folks on a first contact basis. I'm not much of a seller and have a ridiculously busy life so going to the post office is not something that gets priority, but I won't accept any money until I have them 'in hand' from storage and I'm ready to ship. Thanks. Oh, and I am in the USA, so shipping costs would be from USA.

Hi James, how are you?

I'm interested too!

Would @CuffedUpInIrish be your Instagram?

james.slips wrote: ↑

Sep 12, 2022

Thanks Richard, I do have a couple of pairs left if interesred @CuffedUpInIrish 

amazing! I'm interested

Might now have the only one in California....don't know.
An interesting cuff that may be unique in a few ways.
While some cuffs require 2 keys to open or deadlock them, this pair need 2 identical keys at the same time to perform either function.
The keys go on both sides into 6 pin holes and are squeezed together to allow the slide to lock or unlock.

It may take 2 hands to press the keys inward while sliding the lock tab up or down.
These may be the most Mike Griffin proof cuff out there.

The keys are symmetrical, so it does not matter if they are inserted in the correct position.

A couple of negative factors"

The ring appears to be made of brittle plastic and if used in the wild, they certainly are at risk of breaking.
The other bad thing is if the ring gets locked onto the cuff.  If this were to happen, one would need to obtain extra keys to release it....or break it off.


Thank you James,  I suspect you will be pleased with the cuff I sent you in trade.

Mark Lyons O--O Cuffs wrote: ↑

Sep 23, 2022

Might now have the only one in California....don't know.
An interesting cuff that may be unique in a few ways.
While some cuffs require 2 keys to open or deadlock them, this pair need 2 identical keys at the same time to perform either function.
The keys go on both sides into 6 pin holes and are squeezed together to allow the slide to lock or unlock.

It may take 2 hands to press the keys inward while sliding the lock tab up or down.
These may be the most Mike Griffin proof cuff out there.

The keys are symmetrical, so it does not matter if they are inserted in the correct position.chinese ptc1.n.jpg

A couple of negative factors"

The ring appears to be made of brittle plastic and if used in the wild, they certainly are at risk of breaking.
The other bad thing is if the ring gets locked onto the cuff.  If this were to happen, one would need to obtain extra keys to release it....or break it off.


Thank you James,  I suspect you will be pleased with the cuff I sent you in trade.

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They are a very unique cuff indeed. It took me a few minutes to figure out how to work mine, and how to double lock them. Very happy to have these in my collection and very happy that Richard Knips helped me acquire my set. Ron J

Wonder what year these came out and ended , unless they still make them.

Anyone else got a pair available?!

Mark Lyons O--O Cuffs wrote: ↑

Sep 23, 2022

Might now have the only one in California....don't know.
An interesting cuff that may be unique in a few ways.
While some cuffs require 2 keys to open or deadlock them, this pair need 2 identical keys at the same time to perform either function.
The keys go on both sides into 6 pin holes and are squeezed together to allow the slide to lock or unlock.

It may take 2 hands to press the keys inward while sliding the lock tab up or down.
These may be the most Mike Griffin proof cuff out there.

The keys are symmetrical, so it does not matter if they are inserted in the correct position.chinese ptc1.n.jpg

A couple of negative factors"

The ring appears to be made of brittle plastic and if used in the wild, they certainly are at risk of breaking.
The other bad thing is if the ring gets locked onto the cuff.  If this were to happen, one would need to obtain extra keys to release it....or break it off.


Thank you James,  I suspect you will be pleased with the cuff I sent you in trade.

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Very Happy thanks Mark - you are always a pleasure and a gentleman to do business with.

I have found one spare set of them unused in original black canvas case. They are for sale or trade. Email me for more details:
cgower1@aol.com

chriscuffs6 wrote: ↑

Sep 25, 2022

I have found one spare set of them unused in original black canvas case. They are for sale or trade. Email me for more details:
cgower1@aol.com

emailed!

Hello there. Where can I buy a pair of these?

StanfromWA wrote: ↑

Jan 07, 2025

Hello there. Where can I buy a pair of these?

I am thinning out some of the cuffs that just don’t seem to be correct for my collection. Feel free to send me a private message if you would like. I do have one new with all paperwork and case. Ron J

rejones68 wrote:

StanfromWA wrote: ↑

Jan 07, 2025

Hello there. Where can I buy a pair of these?

I am thinning out some of the cuffs that just don’t seem to be correct for my collection. Feel free to send me a private message if you would like. I do have one new with all paperwork and case. Ron J

Keep an eye out when thinning out for anything non-standard keys and/or high security and I’m likely going to be interested. (Super PTCs I have :) )


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I got the Cuffs. They're super cool Cuffs. Ronald, thank you very much for them. I'll get back to you with other handcuffs soon. I have to refresh my budget before my wife will give me a death penalty. I've been trying to fabricate or dublicate a couple of sets of keys. The original keys aren't heavy duty. Also, I'm afraid of to loose them or break them. It's going to be a super difficult task to open cuffs without the keys. I'd like to make the keys from a single solid piece of metal . Maybe from a stainless steel or a hardened steel, but it will be a pain. The easiest option is to make from brass parts and then braze all parts together.

StanfromWA wrote: ↑

Jan 18, 2025

I got the Cuffs. They're super cool Cuffs. Ronald, thank you very much for them. I'll get back to you with other handcuffs soon. I have to refresh my budget before my wife will give me a death penalty. I've been trying to fabricate or dublicate a couple of sets of keys. The original keys aren't heavy duty. Also, I'm afraid of to loose them or break them. It's going to be a super difficult task to open cuffs without the keys. I'd like to make the keys from a single solid piece of metal . Maybe from a stainless steel or a hardened steel, but it will be a pain. The easiest option is to make from brass parts and then braze all parts together.

I never cared for the keys on the cuffs, they seem very cheap. Making a duplicate set I think would be possible but not easy. Ron J

Hello there and Finally. I have fabricated the set of the heavy duty keys. I could say it was a Super BDSM time, but it was kinda close to it. The handcuffs are very, very super sensitive to links of the pins. My handmade keys work even better than the original set.

What a brilliant achivement and so quick. May I ask what metal you used for the base?

I'm assuming that's the stainless steel, but it's not the highest grade. It's a lighty magnetic stainless. I just took some objects and some scrap things from my garage junkyard. The easiest option was a brass rod or a brass bar or even a 4 AWG-6 AWG solid copper conductor with a 12 AWG electrical wire for pins. Plus a regular plumbing flux and a regular plumbing solder would go over. I've made the decision to get that overcomplicated with the stainless steel. Also, i discovered a metal itself doesn't affect the functionality of the keys. Just handcuffs are very sensitive to links of the pins.

I over complicted it in my mind. I thought you has cast the block around the pins. Hats off to your skills.

Thank you. I thought about my painless and quickest option with the project. Which could be to make L share pins from a copper or a brass wire, solder them together and cast an Epoxy resin over them.

Impressive work, not even any solder appears.  Sorry , but I had to enlarge it and take a closer look.

StanfromWA wrote: ↑

Jan 25, 2025

Hello there and Finally. I have fabricated the set of the heavy duty keys. I could say it was a Super BDSM time, but it was kinda close to it. The handcuffs are very, very super sensitive to links of the pins. My handmade keys work even better than the original set.

How are you able to hold the keys you’ve made when trying to use them? Ron J

I put small pieces of a low temperature flaxed solder inside holes. Next, I naied all pins deep and hard inside . Then, I wraped the keys with a piece of foil to protect the shiny surface and I baked them to a minimum required temperature to melt the solder. There were some flux and some residue, but some sort wire brashes and little bit of polishing took care of that.

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Jan 25, 2025

StanfromWA wrote: ↑

Jan 25, 2025

Hello there and Finally. I have fabricated the set of the heavy duty keys. I could say it was a Super BDSM time, but it was kinda close to it. The handcuffs are very, very super sensitive to links of the pins. My handmade keys work even better than the original set.

How are you able to hold the keys you’ve made when trying to use them?  Ron J

Oooo, I do it very easy with a huge smile on my face. They're faaaaaaar better and faaaaaaar more durable than the original set.
There's one more thing about them. No one can aline and drill perfect holes by hand tools . My holes are super close to be perfect, but they're slightly off. Plugged keys will stay in and let me use the switch bar to unlock or double lock the Cuffs. Then, I just slightly pull them out. That's the coolest thing which I got as a gift for my fabrication time.

You may not have made it overly complicated (in your opinion) but you have put a huge amount of thought into this. I would not have thought to wrap the piece and only bring it to the right temp.  Is the base piece a rod or profiled with a curve on each side (refraction in the photo makes it looked profiled) 

It was just a rod.

At least, I got a lot of fun with that. I like to do some custom made stuff. With a profiled piece it would be much easier to work, but I didn't get any.

StanfromWA wrote: ↑

Jan 25, 2025

It was just a rod.

So what machine /vice did you use to drill a straight line of tiny hole, it gets more impressive with each step. 

A Friend of mine has a very good drill press with a very good vice. Which I've used with a full success,but not from my first try.

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rejones68 wrote: ↑

Jan 25, 2025

StanfromWA wrote: ↑

Jan 25, 2025

Hello there and Finally. I have fabricated the set of the heavy duty keys. I could say it was a Super BDSM time, but it was kinda close to it. The handcuffs are very, very super sensitive to links of the pins. My handmade keys work even better than the original set.

How are you able to hold the keys you’ve made when trying to use them?  Ron J

Oooo, I do it very easy with a huge smile on my face. They're faaaaaaar better and faaaaaaar more durable than the original set.
There's one more thing about them. No one can aline and drill perfect holes by hand tools . My holes are super close to be perfect, but they're slightly off. Plugged keys will stay in and let me use the switch bar to unlock or double lock the Cuffs. Then, I just slightly pull them out. That's the coolest thing which I got as a gift for my fabrication time.

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Looks like you put a lot of thought and work into it and did a great job. Congratulations! Ron J

StanfromWA, if that was done with a drill press and just a machine vice on top, you have my full respect. With the will, there's always a way. I cannot wait for your next project. 
Ian

I had a couple of projects in the past. One of the project was to create the world heaviest duty key for my H&R handcuffs. The main reason of that. I've gotten 3 pairs of them. They were very heavy rusted inside. An ultrasonic bath, a penetration oil and a heat gun were useless. I to unjam the mechanics I should move them anyhow . Of course I've broke the original keys. With my knowledge of metal fabrication , a hand drill and my kitchen stove I've created the world heaviest duty keys from a tool steel. I spent maybe an hour or so. With my key you can break off cuffs instead of the key.
The second project was to replace the spring in my Harvard lock company handcuffs. Ive fabricated the replacement spring from a paper clip. Basically an hour and a half of my time. I can post some info and some pictures right in here.

Convert a piece of This to a very good spring. Only one, but a super important thing. Do No Use any of dremels or any of electrical tools. If you heat that type of steel it won't be a spring steel anymore forever. It's a cheaply made cold roled type of spring steel. Not a heat treated one. Only Hand Tools.

The key story and some pictures I'll publish little bit later.

Thanks Stanfrom WA.it good to see another who enjoys collecting and can do things with them to enhance the cuffs and their knowledge base. Most can on buy and obtain and do nothing more than maybe bang a nail in a wall to hang them on.