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George 20 Oct 2015
#1

Good evening,

I'm hoping you can help me determine if the handcuffs I have in my possession are genuine. They were recovered from a house my mother bought from an ex police officer. He appeared to be a collector of all sorts but most has been cleared or sold on now apart from these. I'd like to sell them but don't want to trick anyone into thinking they are real if they aren't. They appear to be made by Hiatt. This is stamped on the key. On each cuff "HIATT BEST" is stamped near the hinges. On one cuff only is a stamp saying "BRITISH MADE". There are no other markings apart from a pattern on the bottom of each barrel.They weigh just over 350g (weighing on kitchen scales) and they're magnetic. I have attached some pictures to help. I would really appreciate some feedback on these. If they are genuine they appear to be in great condition. I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Kind Regards,

George.

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George 20 Oct 2015
#2


lauher 20 Oct 2015
#3
Good evening,

I'm hoping you can help me determine if the handcuffs I have in my possession are genuine. They were recovered from a house my mother bought from an ex police officer. He appeared to be a collector of all sorts but most has been cleared or sold on now apart from these. I'd like to sell them but don't want to trick anyone into thinking they are real if they aren't. They appear to be made by Hiatt. This is stamped on the key. On each cuff "HIATT BEST" is stamped near the hinges. On one cuff only is a stamp saying "BRITISH MADE". There are no other markings apart from a pattern on the bottom of each barrel.They weigh just over 350g (weighing on kitchen scales) and they're magnetic. I have attached some pictures to help. I would really appreciate some feedback on these. If they are genuine they appear to be in great condition. I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Kind Regards,

George.

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They are quite genuine, but not particularly rare.
Joe
Anonymous 20 Oct 2015
#4
Good evening,

I'm hoping you can help me determine if the handcuffs I have in my possession are genuine. They were recovered from a house my mother bought from an ex police officer. He appeared to be a collector of all sorts but most has been cleared or sold on now apart from these. I'd like to sell them but don't want to trick anyone into thinking they are real if they aren't. They appear to be made by Hiatt. This is stamped on the key. On each cuff "HIATT BEST" is stamped near the hinges. On one cuff only is a stamp saying "BRITISH MADE". There are no other markings apart from a pattern on the bottom of each barrel.They weigh just over 350g (weighing on kitchen scales) and they're magnetic. I have attached some pictures to help. I would really appreciate some feedback on these. If they are genuine they appear to be in great condition. I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Kind Regards,

George.

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Thanks for getting back to me. What would you say their value is as looking on eBay they seem to vastly range in price. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Anonymous 20 Oct 2015
#5
Good evening,

I'm hoping you can help me determine if the handcuffs I have in my possession are genuine. They were recovered from a house my mother bought from an ex police officer. He appeared to be a collector of all sorts but most has been cleared or sold on now apart from these. I'd like to sell them but don't want to trick anyone into thinking they are real if they aren't. They appear to be made by Hiatt. This is stamped on the key. On each cuff "HIATT BEST" is stamped near the hinges. On one cuff only is a stamp saying "BRITISH MADE". There are no other markings apart from a pattern on the bottom of each barrel.They weigh just over 350g (weighing on kitchen scales) and they're magnetic. I have attached some pictures to help. I would really appreciate some feedback on these. If they are genuine they appear to be in great condition. I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Kind Regards,

George.

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Also it would be interesting to find out a little more about them. When were they made, how long they were in use for etc.
Anonymous 21 Oct 2015
#6
Good evening,

I'm hoping you can help me determine if the handcuffs I have in my possession are genuine. They were recovered from a house my mother bought from an ex police officer. He appeared to be a collector of all sorts but most has been cleared or sold on now apart from these. I'd like to sell them but don't want to trick anyone into thinking they are real if they aren't. They appear to be made by Hiatt. This is stamped on the key. On each cuff "HIATT BEST" is stamped near the hinges. On one cuff only is a stamp saying "BRITISH MADE". There are no other markings apart from a pattern on the bottom of each barrel.They weigh just over 350g (weighing on kitchen scales) and they're magnetic. I have attached some pictures to help. I would really appreciate some feedback on these. If they are genuine they appear to be in great condition. I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Kind Regards,

George.

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The clevis is intergral and the key design suggests 1960 1970's. Assuming they are steel?
Anonymous 21 Oct 2015
#7
Good evening,

I'm hoping you can help me determine if the handcuffs I have in my possession are genuine. They were recovered from a house my mother bought from an ex police officer. He appeared to be a collector of all sorts but most has been cleared or sold on now apart from these. I'd like to sell them but don't want to trick anyone into thinking they are real if they aren't. They appear to be made by Hiatt. This is stamped on the key. On each cuff "HIATT BEST" is stamped near the hinges. On one cuff only is a stamp saying "BRITISH MADE". There are no other markings apart from a pattern on the bottom of each barrel.They weigh just over 350g (weighing on kitchen scales) and they're magnetic. I have attached some pictures to help. I would really appreciate some feedback on these. If they are genuine they appear to be in great condition. I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Kind Regards,

George.

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I think so, they're quite heavy. I know lots of people come onto forums just to sell stuff but they're not being appreciated at the moment so I want to sell so that someone else can enjoy them. What would you say is a fair price to ask for these?
Anonymous 21 Oct 2015
#8
Good evening,

I'm hoping you can help me determine if the handcuffs I have in my possession are genuine. They were recovered from a house my mother bought from an ex police officer. He appeared to be a collector of all sorts but most has been cleared or sold on now apart from these. I'd like to sell them but don't want to trick anyone into thinking they are real if they aren't. They appear to be made by Hiatt. This is stamped on the key. On each cuff "HIATT BEST" is stamped near the hinges. On one cuff only is a stamp saying "BRITISH MADE". There are no other markings apart from a pattern on the bottom of each barrel.They weigh just over 350g (weighing on kitchen scales) and they're magnetic. I have attached some pictures to help. I would really appreciate some feedback on these. If they are genuine they appear to be in great condition. I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Kind Regards,

George.

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let the market decide, not you.

Sell at ebay, start at one dollar and see where it goes...........
Paul 21 Oct 2015
#9
Good evening,

I'm hoping you can help me determine if the handcuffs I have in my possession are genuine. They were recovered from a house my mother bought from an ex police officer. He appeared to be a collector of all sorts but most has been cleared or sold on now apart from these. I'd like to sell them but don't want to trick anyone into thinking they are real if they aren't. They appear to be made by Hiatt. This is stamped on the key. On each cuff "HIATT BEST" is stamped near the hinges. On one cuff only is a stamp saying "BRITISH MADE". There are no other markings apart from a pattern on the bottom of each barrel.They weigh just over 350g (weighing on kitchen scales) and they're magnetic. I have attached some pictures to help. I would really appreciate some feedback on these. If they are genuine they appear to be in great condition. I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Kind Regards,

George.

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I think they're probably 1970s to 1980 -or whenever they stopped making them. I have one pair the same. They are not particularly well made, being entirely made of cast parts, not made by a skilled blacksmith for instance. The condition might increase the price from a starting point of $30.
Paul
Anonymous 21 Oct 2015
#10
Good evening,

I'm hoping you can help me determine if the handcuffs I have in my possession are genuine. They were recovered from a house my mother bought from an ex police officer. He appeared to be a collector of all sorts but most has been cleared or sold on now apart from these. I'd like to sell them but don't want to trick anyone into thinking they are real if they aren't. They appear to be made by Hiatt. This is stamped on the key. On each cuff "HIATT BEST" is stamped near the hinges. On one cuff only is a stamp saying "BRITISH MADE". There are no other markings apart from a pattern on the bottom of each barrel.They weigh just over 350g (weighing on kitchen scales) and they're magnetic. I have attached some pictures to help. I would really appreciate some feedback on these. If they are genuine they appear to be in great condition. I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Kind Regards,

George.

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Paul, Maurice from 'Fetters' got Hiatt to remake the older cuff design 104 & 115 and the cuffs were cast in alloy, they didn't do steel as far as I know during the 1970 and 80's.
ChuckII 22 Oct 2015
#11
Good evening,

I'm hoping you can help me determine if the handcuffs I have in my possession are genuine. They were recovered from a house my mother bought from an ex police officer. He appeared to be a collector of all sorts but most has been cleared or sold on now apart from these. I'd like to sell them but don't want to trick anyone into thinking they are real if they aren't. They appear to be made by Hiatt. This is stamped on the key. On each cuff "HIATT BEST" is stamped near the hinges. On one cuff only is a stamp saying "BRITISH MADE". There are no other markings apart from a pattern on the bottom of each barrel.They weigh just over 350g (weighing on kitchen scales) and they're magnetic. I have attached some pictures to help. I would really appreciate some feedback on these. If they are genuine they appear to be in great condition. I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Kind Regards,

George.

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I may be wrong, but I think your cuffs are identical to those James Cameron used in "Titanic."
Anonymous 22 Oct 2015
#12
Good evening,

I'm hoping you can help me determine if the handcuffs I have in my possession are genuine. They were recovered from a house my mother bought from an ex police officer. He appeared to be a collector of all sorts but most has been cleared or sold on now apart from these. I'd like to sell them but don't want to trick anyone into thinking they are real if they aren't. They appear to be made by Hiatt. This is stamped on the key. On each cuff "HIATT BEST" is stamped near the hinges. On one cuff only is a stamp saying "BRITISH MADE". There are no other markings apart from a pattern on the bottom of each barrel.They weigh just over 350g (weighing on kitchen scales) and they're magnetic. I have attached some pictures to help. I would really appreciate some feedback on these. If they are genuine they appear to be in great condition. I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Kind Regards,

George.

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Titanic's were diecast alloy, sold for $5000.00
stevech 22 Oct 2015
#13
Good evening,

I'm hoping you can help me determine if the handcuffs I have in my possession are genuine. They were recovered from a house my mother bought from an ex police officer. He appeared to be a collector of all sorts but most has been cleared or sold on now apart from these. I'd like to sell them but don't want to trick anyone into thinking they are real if they aren't. They appear to be made by Hiatt. This is stamped on the key. On each cuff "HIATT BEST" is stamped near the hinges. On one cuff only is a stamp saying "BRITISH MADE". There are no other markings apart from a pattern on the bottom of each barrel.They weigh just over 350g (weighing on kitchen scales) and they're magnetic. I have attached some pictures to help. I would really appreciate some feedback on these. If they are genuine they appear to be in great condition. I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Kind Regards,

George.

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Doesn't the fact that these cuffs are marked "BEST" indicate an earlier production date? I understood the change from steel to alloy took place in the 1970s, so these cuffs would likely be much older than the 1980s. In my opinion, these probably date to the 1950s or even earlier. Can anyone confirm when the marking "BEST" was discontinued?
Chris Gower 22 Oct 2015
#14
Good evening,

I'm hoping you can help me determine if the handcuffs I have in my possession are genuine. They were recovered from a house my mother bought from an ex police officer. He appeared to be a collector of all sorts but most has been cleared or sold on now apart from these. I'd like to sell them but don't want to trick anyone into thinking they are real if they aren't. They appear to be made by Hiatt. This is stamped on the key. On each cuff "HIATT BEST" is stamped near the hinges. On one cuff only is a stamp saying "BRITISH MADE". There are no other markings apart from a pattern on the bottom of each barrel.They weigh just over 350g (weighing on kitchen scales) and they're magnetic. I have attached some pictures to help. I would really appreciate some feedback on these. If they are genuine they appear to be in great condition. I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Kind Regards,

George.

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One of the first pairs of handcuffs I ever bought was a pair of Hiatt 104 pattern cuffs back in 1968. I contacted Hiatt that same year and they were happy to supply me with any of their products. In 1969 I bought another 104 pattern and 101 pattern cuffs, both arrived in their nice Hiatt Boxes. They were both chrome plated, were marked Hiatt Best and had the same style of key that your pair has.
In 1975 when I set up Fetters with Maurice, Hiatt agreed to make up some solid 8 pattern handcuffs and legions and bar cuffs. They still had stocks of the steel handcuffs and legirons and we're just introducing the cheaper alloy type handcuffs model 104 and 115 and leg irons
So we can date your pair as being made before 1975, as far as my records show the 104 pattern with that type key was certainly made in 1957 but sorry I can not say an exact date but think we can probably assume mid 1950's.
So your set could be made anywhere between 1955 and 1975 .
Chris

IM 22 Oct 2015
#15
Good evening,

I'm hoping you can help me determine if the handcuffs I have in my possession are genuine. They were recovered from a house my mother bought from an ex police officer. He appeared to be a collector of all sorts but most has been cleared or sold on now apart from these. I'd like to sell them but don't want to trick anyone into thinking they are real if they aren't. They appear to be made by Hiatt. This is stamped on the key. On each cuff "HIATT BEST" is stamped near the hinges. On one cuff only is a stamp saying "BRITISH MADE". There are no other markings apart from a pattern on the bottom of each barrel.They weigh just over 350g (weighing on kitchen scales) and they're magnetic. I have attached some pictures to help. I would really appreciate some feedback on these. If they are genuine they appear to be in great condition. I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Kind Regards,

George.

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Thanks Chris, I knew you would know.
stevech 23 Oct 2015
#16
Good evening,

I'm hoping you can help me determine if the handcuffs I have in my possession are genuine. They were recovered from a house my mother bought from an ex police officer. He appeared to be a collector of all sorts but most has been cleared or sold on now apart from these. I'd like to sell them but don't want to trick anyone into thinking they are real if they aren't. They appear to be made by Hiatt. This is stamped on the key. On each cuff "HIATT BEST" is stamped near the hinges. On one cuff only is a stamp saying "BRITISH MADE". There are no other markings apart from a pattern on the bottom of each barrel.They weigh just over 350g (weighing on kitchen scales) and they're magnetic. I have attached some pictures to help. I would really appreciate some feedback on these. If they are genuine they appear to be in great condition. I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Kind Regards,

George.

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Since the bows on these cuffs are more rounded than the standard Model 104 Darby cuffs, are these a Model 101? I know the early Superintendent cuffs had an extra link on each side of the swivel and were of a slightly larger size, but this particular pair is just like a pair in my collection and they are lighter and the bows are definitely more rounded than the typical 104 style cuffs. I would describe this pair as late model Superintendent Cuffs. Thoughts?

Thanks,

Steve
Anonymous 23 Oct 2015
#17
Good evening,

I'm hoping you can help me determine if the handcuffs I have in my possession are genuine. They were recovered from a house my mother bought from an ex police officer. He appeared to be a collector of all sorts but most has been cleared or sold on now apart from these. I'd like to sell them but don't want to trick anyone into thinking they are real if they aren't. They appear to be made by Hiatt. This is stamped on the key. On each cuff "HIATT BEST" is stamped near the hinges. On one cuff only is a stamp saying "BRITISH MADE". There are no other markings apart from a pattern on the bottom of each barrel.They weigh just over 350g (weighing on kitchen scales) and they're magnetic. I have attached some pictures to help. I would really appreciate some feedback on these. If they are genuine they appear to be in great condition. I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Kind Regards,

George.

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superintendant cuffs have a lighter overall frame, these don't. Just plain ol' 104's
Paul 23 Oct 2015
#18
Good evening,

I'm hoping you can help me determine if the handcuffs I have in my possession are genuine. They were recovered from a house my mother bought from an ex police officer. He appeared to be a collector of all sorts but most has been cleared or sold on now apart from these. I'd like to sell them but don't want to trick anyone into thinking they are real if they aren't. They appear to be made by Hiatt. This is stamped on the key. On each cuff "HIATT BEST" is stamped near the hinges. On one cuff only is a stamp saying "BRITISH MADE". There are no other markings apart from a pattern on the bottom of each barrel.They weigh just over 350g (weighing on kitchen scales) and they're magnetic. I have attached some pictures to help. I would really appreciate some feedback on these. If they are genuine they appear to be in great condition. I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Kind Regards,

George.

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Anon, I think you'll find that these do have a lighter frame than the 104. I would describe these as possibly the last of the Superintendent model. I'll try and post a comparison photo.
The one that I own has a swivel the same as one of my Hiatt 1960 model but this swivel could have been left over from the 60s.
Paul
Paul 23 Oct 2015
#19
Good evening,

I'm hoping you can help me determine if the handcuffs I have in my possession are genuine. They were recovered from a house my mother bought from an ex police officer. He appeared to be a collector of all sorts but most has been cleared or sold on now apart from these. I'd like to sell them but don't want to trick anyone into thinking they are real if they aren't. They appear to be made by Hiatt. This is stamped on the key. On each cuff "HIATT BEST" is stamped near the hinges. On one cuff only is a stamp saying "BRITISH MADE". There are no other markings apart from a pattern on the bottom of each barrel.They weigh just over 350g (weighing on kitchen scales) and they're magnetic. I have attached some pictures to help. I would really appreciate some feedback on these. If they are genuine they appear to be in great condition. I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Kind Regards,

George.

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Here is the comparison between a standard heavy cuff and the light weight one in question.



Anonymous 23 Oct 2015
#20
Good evening,

I'm hoping you can help me determine if the handcuffs I have in my possession are genuine. They were recovered from a house my mother bought from an ex police officer. He appeared to be a collector of all sorts but most has been cleared or sold on now apart from these. I'd like to sell them but don't want to trick anyone into thinking they are real if they aren't. They appear to be made by Hiatt. This is stamped on the key. On each cuff "HIATT BEST" is stamped near the hinges. On one cuff only is a stamp saying "BRITISH MADE". There are no other markings apart from a pattern on the bottom of each barrel.They weigh just over 350g (weighing on kitchen scales) and they're magnetic. I have attached some pictures to help. I would really appreciate some feedback on these. If they are genuine they appear to be in great condition. I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Kind Regards,

George.

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You're grasping for this one Paul.

lauher 24 Oct 2015
#21
Good evening,

I'm hoping you can help me determine if the handcuffs I have in my possession are genuine. They were recovered from a house my mother bought from an ex police officer. He appeared to be a collector of all sorts but most has been cleared or sold on now apart from these. I'd like to sell them but don't want to trick anyone into thinking they are real if they aren't. They appear to be made by Hiatt. This is stamped on the key. On each cuff "HIATT BEST" is stamped near the hinges. On one cuff only is a stamp saying "BRITISH MADE". There are no other markings apart from a pattern on the bottom of each barrel.They weigh just over 350g (weighing on kitchen scales) and they're magnetic. I have attached some pictures to help. I would really appreciate some feedback on these. If they are genuine they appear to be in great condition. I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Kind Regards,

George.

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Paul is correct. There are light and heavy versions of Hiatts later Darby cuffs.
Joe
Anonymous 24 Oct 2015
#22
Good evening,

I'm hoping you can help me determine if the handcuffs I have in my possession are genuine. They were recovered from a house my mother bought from an ex police officer. He appeared to be a collector of all sorts but most has been cleared or sold on now apart from these. I'd like to sell them but don't want to trick anyone into thinking they are real if they aren't. They appear to be made by Hiatt. This is stamped on the key. On each cuff "HIATT BEST" is stamped near the hinges. On one cuff only is a stamp saying "BRITISH MADE". There are no other markings apart from a pattern on the bottom of each barrel.They weigh just over 350g (weighing on kitchen scales) and they're magnetic. I have attached some pictures to help. I would really appreciate some feedback on these. If they are genuine they appear to be in great condition. I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Kind Regards,

George.

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but were they advertised as superindentent cuffs. I wouldn't call them superintendent because they look very different from the real SI. It would only cause confusion of what is a SI model. If I bought one from ebay sold as Suprintendent and got the one shown here, I would feel cheated.

don't change history just because the cuff is lighter.

Tim 06 Feb 2021
#23
Hello, I have a question on keys: I have a pair of Hiatt handcuffs from my grandadΒ  with "BEST", and "HARD" on the other side, a serial number 229 and the letter K printed on the end of the barrel. Under the BEST I can see other embossing but can't make out what it says (looks like "WR......." something). Alas they have no key. They are quite old, pitted and a bit rusty but some chrome is still on them. I have seen keys for sale but have no idea if they would fit - can anyone advise if keys are 'standard' and i can go ahead to buy or are there important differences to be aware of?
lauher 06 Feb 2021
#24
"WARRANTED WROUGHT" is a veryΒ  common marking on Darby handcuffs.Β 
That is likely what you are seeing on your cuffs.
Joe
Tim 06 Feb 2021
#25
lauher wrote: ↑
Feb 06, 2021
"WARRANTED WROUGHT" is a veryΒ  common marking on Darby handcuffs.Β 
That is likely what you are seeing on your cuffs.
Joe
Thanks Joe, that's interesting. Any knowledge on the key question!?
djhalfdead 06 Feb 2021
#26
Unfortunately, the keys for this type of "Darby" style handcuff are varied, greatly. Different thread sizes and pitches. Diameters, etc. I have about 10 or 12 different Darby keys in my "spare" pile and have cuffs that none of them will fit. Not knowing a manufacturer for the cuffs, will make it harder to get a key for them. I would not recommend just buying random kys and trying to fit it to your cuffs. That could get quite expensive or you may hit it on the first try? Its just a shot in the dark. Ian McColl, may be of some help to fit a key to your cuffs. He is a Master Locksmith located in Australia. I cant say for sure that he can fix you up, but if anyone here can, he would be who I would choose for that job. You will have to send him pics of what you have to work with and he may be able to help identify what cuffs you do have or the most likely key to operate them? The other issue is the cost of a key. They are expensive when you consider the shipping rates from Australia. If your Darby is a common Hiatt Darby or just a common Darby in general, it may not be worth a lot, even with a working key. Condition is everything when compared to pricing. Also consider, if the cuff is rusted up, the inside of the lock mechanism may also be fouled. Though Darby cuffs are not too difficult in their lock design to be able to use chemicals to soak them and free up the mechanism.

One thing I can do, to offer you some help with Ian being able to maybe make a key for you, would be to have you send me your cuffs, if you are located in the United States. I have a lot of Darby style cuffs and keys in my collection and could try to fit one of my spare keys to your cuffs. If one of the spares fit, i could sell you that key and the search could be over. If none of my spares fit, I could likely fit a key from one of my working Darby cuffs and pass pics and info of the working cuff onto you, for you to give to Ian, in hopes he could match that info up to a working key. Of course, you would probably want to contact Ian first to make sure he is game for this plan. If he is on board, then, it would only cost you about $8 to ship to me and $8 to ship the cuffs back from me to you, after I find out more info about the key that works your cuffs. Then it would cost whatever Ian would charge to make that key and ship it to you. So that is an option that could be on the table, if you want to go that route.

You can contact Ian at imccoll@dcsi.net.au Β  you can contact me atΒ  iambiohazard@yahoo.com Β  Hope that helps with your search!
-Richard Knip-
Tim 24 Feb 2021
#27
Thanks Richard - well I got lucky it seems - took a punt on a key and managed to unlock them!!Β 
Never realised that you have to screw in then pull to release (you live and learn). It doesn't screw in particularly well but still enough to grip and release so I'm happy.Β 
The next challenge will be to restore them a bit. Not sure whether to clean off the worst of the rust with wire wool, or what that would do to the last bit's of chrome still stuck on there. Guess I could go in heavy to cleane them right back and get them re-chromed but that feels a bit heavy handed.
Any advice?
New Town 25 Feb 2021
#28
Hi,
I just bought a ball for a chain. Very rusty. METALΒ  RESCUE is amazing. Every speck of rust gone. And it is very gentle. I put my hands in the liquid to rotate the ball. I had seized up leg irons and apparently there was rust on the inside because after 12 hours in the MR bath, they worked fine. Then I doused them with the "C" bottle from Otis Complete Gun Cleaner and then I let them dry out and then used "CLP" 085 by Otis to oil them up. Went from seized to perfect in 48 hours.
There are a whole bunch of rust removers now that do not use acid or harsh chemicals. Any chroming will be left untouched. If you put MR into Google along with "Rust Remover reviews" you'll get a list of a lot of the gentle rust removers.Β 
Warning--if your patina is based on rust, then it will disappear. I only use MR when something is screwed up inside or there is rust on the outside. I like the patina otherwise.
I am a newbie to this, so I assume others have better advice.
Mike
Tim 25 Feb 2021
#29
Thanks Mike, will give that a whirl.
Cheers
Tim