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Court Room Escape

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Joseph Fox 15 Jul 2016

This prisoner was apparently not searched/Not searched properly...and proof that regulation hand & leg shackles are temporary restraints only:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/f ... -1.2712919

Not an uncommon occurrence at all.

thenarsian 18 Jul 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smRnt0o-qBc

Anonymous 18 Jul 2016

This just underscores the need for teleconferencing during trials, thus keeping dangerous individuals in a much better controlled area than a courtroom setting can possibly provide!

thenarsian 18 Jul 2016

How someone in a packed court room, surrounded by court officers can get out of handcuffs, make a run for it, get through two separate security doors, slip off prisoner clothing and make it out the front door is amazing. There had to be quite a few people asleep at the wheel for him to pull that off. Frightening, but impressive.

Joseph Fox 20 Jul 2016

The inmate who escaped several days ago - is still on the loose.....but since then, a Deputy had lost his handcuff key, which was found in the possession of another inmate who was in a court room.

A whole issue is now raised about the "universal keys" (i.e. one misplaced key, if found by an inmate - will unlock all of the handcuffs in use).

This topic always comes up after an inmate escapes with a hidden key. The media always plays up the "universal key" aspects of the story, knowing that it would be a revelation to much of the public - to learn that handcuffs aren't keyed-differently (like their house keys).

It will never be practical to have "keyed-differently" handcuffs, for general use.

It all comes down to visually watching the inmate, along with properly searching them.

At the very least, use a "Black/Blue box" whenever an inmate is in a court room/public building.

http://www.local10.com/news/deputy-lose ... courthouse

Michael Busch 21 Jul 2016

But be sure to lock the Black/Blue box with one of these:

http://www.handcuffwarehouse.com/culohakeypa.html

Anonymous 21 Jul 2016

Prisoner hand restraint mitts add another level of security ............

I feel that level one inmates should be left at a high security prison, and can be offered the ability to attend their trial(s) by use of teleconferencing!!! There should be positively no change given for escape.

Anonimous 21 Jul 2016

Blue Box is not 100% solution.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-yyT_Xkc7k

Glenn 08 Sep 2016

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09 ... handcuffs/

Joseph Fox 08 Sep 2016

#10

Thanks for posting that.

The last thing I want to see is a murder-suspect escaping, and back on the streets...but I have to give the guy 'points' for his determination & success.

Apparently he was being filmed...but not watched (at least during those crucial moments).

They appear to be Peerless Hinged Cuffs...

Although a strong cuff, the video shows their weakness:

There is still enough flexibility between each cuff to allow "leverage" to twist & snap the hinges.

They only have two hinges...A S&W Hinged model has THREE (and the 3 hinges are shorter in length).

Decades ago, prisoners would escape by inserting the cuff's chain in, say, a seat belt buckle "hole"..and then twist their wrists until the chain link was sheared off.

In this case, the weak point wasn't only the handcuffs. By locking the cuff around a solid stationary object (the bar on the table)...that provided the leverage required.

If the cuff were locked around an object that was solid, yet free to spin or turn...this might not have happened.

It is doubtful anyone could have predicted this escape would happen.

Time for a re-design of the Peerless Hinged?

holstcollection 08 Sep 2016

#11

This is an interesting topic, but also sad. When murderers and other scum bags manage to escape, it's bad for the entire society.

First, it's not very smart to connect a standard hinged Peerless to a stationary object as Joe stated. A long chain restraint whould have avoided the possibility to "leverage". A three hinged cuff probably would have stayed undamaged, I agree.

I still don't have any higher thoughts on modern cuffs; the lock constructions are comparetively easy to shim and a key could be hidden or stolen. Very low security in a critical and dangerous situation.

According to my opinion, many of the vintage cuffs are by far more secure. The Marlin is a good example. There are also modern cuffs which allow a great security. The Chubb Escort is one of them. Yes, they are "keyed", but very suitable for high risk prisoners. They are almost impossible to shim and probably hard to break as in the video.

One cuff that probably never came to the market is the "Stun cuff". There are lot's of people finding such cuff "inhumane". Not me.
The cuff make no harm to the prisoner as long he (!) is cooperative. Some of you might disagree. The police use stun guns , why not use stun cuffs?

The prototype stun cuff (from Stan's former collection)

The Chubb Escort.

Lars

'V' for 09 Sep 2016

#12

why not stun cuffs?
because the person is already restrained.

but, wait until Trump is president, they will be water boarded and worse.
bringing back all the christian methods to inflict pain and suffering just like in the good old days