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Original topic ↗Recovered images
thenarsian 21 Sep 2016
#1

I tried searching through the old forum posts for information on the Phelp's handcuff and didn't find much of anything. I was mainly looking for a photo of the 1st model. The only pics that I found looked just like the 2nd model below. If anyone out there could post a photo of the 1st model, it would be appreciated.





phelp first model 21 Sep 2016
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ChuckII 22 Sep 2016
#3
I tried searching through the old forum posts for information on the Phelp's handcuff and didn't find much of anything. I was mainly looking for a photo of the 1st model. The only pics that I found looked just like the 2nd model below. If anyone out there could post a photo of the 1st model, it would be appreciated.





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Good Morning Mr. Phelps.

Glenn 24 Sep 2016
#4
I tried searching through the old forum posts for information on the Phelp's handcuff and didn't find much of anything. I was mainly looking for a photo of the 1st model. The only pics that I found looked just like the 2nd model below. If anyone out there could post a photo of the 1st model, it would be appreciated.





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LOL. I didn't think it would become Mission Impossible to get a pic of a cuff.
holstcollection 25 Sep 2016
#5
I tried searching through the old forum posts for information on the Phelp's handcuff and didn't find much of anything. I was mainly looking for a photo of the 1st model. The only pics that I found looked just like the 2nd model below. If anyone out there could post a photo of the 1st model, it would be appreciated.





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Hi,

No, it's not Mission Impossible to get a photo. However, the 1.st version is very scarse and this is the ony "official photo" I know of.

Here is a photo of the set that once belonged to Stan Willis. Now in another collector's collection. A very nice cuff indeed.


Lars

www.holstcollection.com

Glenn 25 Sep 2016
#6
I tried searching through the old forum posts for information on the Phelp's handcuff and didn't find much of anything. I was mainly looking for a photo of the 1st model. The only pics that I found looked just like the 2nd model below. If anyone out there could post a photo of the 1st model, it would be appreciated.





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Thanks Lars. Does anyone know how many of each version are known to exist?
holstcollection 25 Sep 2016
#7
I tried searching through the old forum posts for information on the Phelp's handcuff and didn't find much of anything. I was mainly looking for a photo of the 1st model. The only pics that I found looked just like the 2nd model below. If anyone out there could post a photo of the 1st model, it would be appreciated.





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You're welcome Glenn. I have no clue and I doubt there is such information avaiable.
The Phelps are rare but the first version is much rarer. I only know of two in collections.

Best,

Lars


Mark Lyons 26 Sep 2016
#8
I tried searching through the old forum posts for information on the Phelp's handcuff and didn't find much of anything. I was mainly looking for a photo of the 1st model. The only pics that I found looked just like the 2nd model below. If anyone out there could post a photo of the 1st model, it would be appreciated.





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Thanks Lars for posting your pic of this cuff.

I had a lot of trouble with Photobucket and had tried for days to get this photo posted, so it is a bit redundant for me to post a pic of the same cuff.

This cuff was one of the first that I wanted to see when I first visited Stan.
I was very, very pleased to have acquired it when he sold off his collection.





Mark
O--O
thenarsian 26 Sep 2016
#9
I tried searching through the old forum posts for information on the Phelp's handcuff and didn't find much of anything. I was mainly looking for a photo of the 1st model. The only pics that I found looked just like the 2nd model below. If anyone out there could post a photo of the 1st model, it would be appreciated.





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Thank you both for posting.

So the only two differences that I can see is that the 1st modal has a much more rounded lock case and the key hole position is at 12 o'clock instead of 5 o'clock. The chain, bows and clevis appear to be the same.

The Adams was patented in 1862 and the Phelps in 1866, when was the Tower Bottom key made? I know it was designed partially from the Phelps patent, but how long after?