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CuffmanBelgium 01 Nov 2016
#1
Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.

Rasberius 01 Nov 2016
#2
This is Kelmet - new Polish stainless steel handcuffs
Anonymous 01 Nov 2016
#3
Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.

These handcuffs are from Poland. The company which produces them is named Kel-Met.
CuffmanBelgium 01 Nov 2016
#4
Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.

Thanks, I knew they looked familiar. The Kel-Met I have has a round hollow key.
silentbd 01 Nov 2016
#5
Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.

Why do some manufacturers design their cuffs with alternating sides? korean cuffs are like that too. You put them on someone the same way and you end up with one cuff key hole facing up and one facing down, so if you want both keyholes to be front or reverse you have to goof around putting them on in different ways. I do not like that design.
Joseph Fox 01 Nov 2016
#6
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SBD:

The short answer: It's less costly to manufacture!

Manufacturing thousands of the IDENTICAL cuffs, and connecting them together to form one handcuff...is ALOT cheaper than manufacturing both a "positive" and a "negative" cuff in order to form one handcuff.

If someone can explain this in a better way, feel free.

Atame 01 Nov 2016
#7
Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.

Correct. This is the new Kel Met line with solid key and in stainless steel.

They also produce leg irons, a combination, a training model and rigid handcuffs (Speedcuffs), which will all be available at www.cuffsland.com this month.

Best regards,
Guenter
silentbd 01 Nov 2016
#8
Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.

Makes sense now from a money perspective. Although if I were in law enforcement or some other setting where I needed to handcuff people, having cockeyed handcuffs would frustrate the hell out of me or say screw it and put up with someone always having 1 keyhole accessible.

On a side note about these particular ones. Nice specimens by the way, with a normal keyway there is no ambiguity of where the key goes. These have a slit and if you are trying to uncuff someone or adjust the tightness with someone who is struggling and fidgeting, you're likely to go fumbling around putting the key in the wrong side. If this company is new to the handcuff world I can understand the design.
k20-on-tec 02 Nov 2016
#9
Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.

You could have the key side always facing away it just means you have to put one cuff on the other way and tbh even with cuffs like smith and wesson in a struggle im sure sometimes the key sides end up facing opposite ways.
parabellum_pl 02 Nov 2016
#10
Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.

In the first variant of Kel-Met handcuffs with barrel key the cuffs were mirrored (this one had the manufacturer signature stamped on the body) and in the later they switched to non-mirrored (no signature on the lock case). Flat-keyed were non-mirrored from the start of production.
I think that the main motivation was economic. Polish policemen are still used to the old MO non-mirrored cuffs (you can find them in use, although less and less frequent - they are/were replaced by Kelmets, Hiatts and Alcyons), so it doesn't make that big of a difference if they are mirrored/non-mirrored.
anon 03 Nov 2016
#11
Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.

A very unusual key hole which makes no sense as the key can be inserted in the wrong direction and could possibly result in a broken key.

Maybe the pin tip will prevent it from going in too deep if inserted incorrectly to avoid a breakage problem.

It would have been better to punch a regular keyhole shaped hole than the oval one they chose to go with.

Rasberius 03 Nov 2016
#12
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There is no way to insert the key in the wrong way. The tip of the key is long enough.
anon 03 Nov 2016
#13
Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.

I guess you could attempt to put the key in wrong only to find out you have to turn it around 180 degrees.
silentbd 03 Nov 2016
#14
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It's clunky. There should be no ambiguity of what direction you need to put a key into a lock. Like the old cruciform keys where you have to try up to 4 different times to get the key in the lock until you have the particular side facing the right way. Clunky. Frankly them being new is the only excuse. The key looks like it goes to a set of handcuffs from 1967 or something. I am personally not a fan of those. Even having no occupation requiring handcuffs I still wouldn't want them.
anon 03 Nov 2016
#15
Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.

the cruciform key typically has one of the 4 sides slightly larger than the other 3, so it would only go in 1 way to be fully inserted, but like this cuff, you would have to try each way until the key was properly seated
Rasberius 04 Nov 2016
#16
Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.

I have this model. And the problem is not there.
silentbd 13 Jan 2017
#17
Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.

I am considering buying a pair of these given that I can actually buy more keys, else I would never consider it. I like to know I have backup keys for cuffs. I keep a minimum cuff key count in my wallet so that I can open all or at least most of the cuffs in my possession. My only exception so far is the double lock of some high security Chinese cuffs I do not carry. However the price of these cuffs was so tempting that I knew it was likely I would order them.

Are these NIJ certified does anyone know?
axylon 13 Jan 2017
#18
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are they double-locking? Does the cut in the key flag serve a purpose?
silentbd 13 Jan 2017
#19
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"These handcuffs with an unusual twisted chain are very well made Like all KEL_MET metal restraints, they are made of stainless steel without any nickel plating. They can be securely double locked by small push buttons which are activated by use of the key-top. To unlock the double lock, the key has to be turned against opening direction. All KEL-MET restraints use a special solid key with double bit and cannot be operated with an US standard handcuffs key."
delta 28 Jan 2017
#20
Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.

What is the model number for these hand cuffs? I cannot find it anywhere.
djhalfdead 28 Jan 2017
#21
Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.

Get them from Cuffsland. Listed under France/Poland Handcuffs. http://www.cuffsland.com/

-Richard Knip-
delta 29 Jan 2017
#22
Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.

I realised this but I would like to document when I have them what the model is. For example the hiatt speedcuffs are actually model 2103 but rarely people realise this because everyone just knows them as speedcuffs or hiatt rigid cuffs.

I just want to be able to document the correct model number that represent those kelmet handcuffs.
Atame 29 Jan 2017
#23
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Hello,

strangely the KEL-MET restraints have no model-names!

http://www.kelmet.pl/militaria

Best ragrds,
Guenter
KEL-MET 30 Jun 2017
#24
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Hi everyone,

I am Dorota, export manager from Kel-Met.
I introduce you the names of handcuffs:

Stainless steel handcuffs - KM 1000
Handcuffs for training - KM 1100
"Rigid" handcuffs - KM 2000
Hinged handcuffs - KM 2500
Cuffs for feet - KM 4000
Feet and hands cuffs - KM 4500

All you can check here:http://kelmet-cuffs.com/handcuffs-cuffs ... atons.html

Thank you for all yours reviews. We are working on new improvements. These stainless steel handcuffs will be available soon with universal key.


loud lively collector 01 Jul 2017
#25
Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.

Why is your site under construction when I click a product? Never before have I seehttp://kelmet-cuffs.com but I have seen what appears to be the officialhttps://www.kelmet.pl/militaria

What's with the new domain name? Do you have any evidence that kelmet-cuffs.com is a legitimate and genuine address?
KEL-MET 01 Jul 2017
#26
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Our main domain for export is:http://kelmet-defence.eu/
We are working now on our new site which is under domain -http://kelmet-cuffs.com/, it is under construction, i just wanted show you names of our models, which are shown on this page in tabel.

Complete information about products you will find athttp://kelmet-defence.eu/

Best,
Dorota

loud lively collector 02 Jul 2017
#27
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Thank you for that information. I look forward to your newer secure locking mechanism.
KEL-MET 04 Jul 2017
#28
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I would like to thanks for all your reviews and suggestions. Thanks to them we are improving our stainless steel handcuffs.

I am very happy to inform you that in few weeks we will introduce an improved model of our stainless steel handcuffs (KM 1000). Improved model will have new lock mechanism with universal key and handcuffs will be MIRRORED (for right and left hand).

All our cuffs are compliance to NIJ certificate.

loud lively collector 04 Jul 2017
#29
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You mean the lock will be harder for someone to pick?

Also it would help if the double lock area were larger and easier for someone to engage. It is extremely difficult to use the double lock when someone is moving around. The double lock sticks outward and is exceptionally difficult to engage.
Anonimus 04 Jul 2017
#30
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To loud lively collector
The standard key and pick resistance are theoretically incompatible
loud lively collector 04 Jul 2017
#31
Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.

Do you have plans to make a secure mechanism? Your currently one isnt very secure.
KEL-MET 05 Jul 2017
#32
Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.

The lock will have bolt wchich won't allow the use of pickles, wires, etc.
Thank you for reviews about double lock area.
FindingMono 16 Jul 2017
#33
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Wow!

These are really nice. can they stikll be purchased?
silentbd 18 Jul 2017
#34
Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.

I would love to see a cutaway view of this cuff and also the new more secure double lock one to see what is inside. Does anyone have any pictures of the inside of Kel-Met modern cuffs?
KEL-MET 19 Jul 2017
#35
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A new-improved model of KEL-MET handcuffs coming soon.
Photos at:https://plus.google.com/111527277053350826040
silentbd 28 Aug 2017
#36
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New pictures of the updated model:http://www.kelmet-defence.eu/stainless- ... m1000.html










Unknown / guest 28 Aug 2017
#37
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New URL due to recommendation not to re-use the same model number for the new design:http://kelmet-defence.eu/km-1001-stainl ... cuffs.html