CuffmanBelgium
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Rasberius
#2This is Kelmet - new Polish stainless steel handcuffs
Anonymous
#3These handcuffs are from Poland. The company which produces them is named Kel-Met.Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
CuffmanBelgium
#4Thanks, I knew they looked familiar. The Kel-Met I have has a round hollow key.Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
silentbd
#5Why do some manufacturers design their cuffs with alternating sides? korean cuffs are like that too. You put them on someone the same way and you end up with one cuff key hole facing up and one facing down, so if you want both keyholes to be front or reverse you have to goof around putting them on in different ways. I do not like that design.Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
Joseph Fox
#6SBD:Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
The short answer: It's less costly to manufacture!
Manufacturing thousands of the IDENTICAL cuffs, and connecting them together to form one handcuff...is ALOT cheaper than manufacturing both a "positive" and a "negative" cuff in order to form one handcuff.
If someone can explain this in a better way, feel free.
Atame
#7Correct. This is the new Kel Met line with solid key and in stainless steel.Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
They also produce leg irons, a combination, a training model and rigid handcuffs (Speedcuffs), which will all be available at www.cuffsland.com this month.
Best regards,
Guenter
silentbd
#8Makes sense now from a money perspective. Although if I were in law enforcement or some other setting where I needed to handcuff people, having cockeyed handcuffs would frustrate the hell out of me or say screw it and put up with someone always having 1 keyhole accessible.Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
On a side note about these particular ones. Nice specimens by the way, with a normal keyway there is no ambiguity of where the key goes. These have a slit and if you are trying to uncuff someone or adjust the tightness with someone who is struggling and fidgeting, you're likely to go fumbling around putting the key in the wrong side. If this company is new to the handcuff world I can understand the design.
k20-on-tec
#9You could have the key side always facing away it just means you have to put one cuff on the other way and tbh even with cuffs like smith and wesson in a struggle im sure sometimes the key sides end up facing opposite ways.Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
parabellum_pl
#10In the first variant of Kel-Met handcuffs with barrel key the cuffs were mirrored (this one had the manufacturer signature stamped on the body) and in the later they switched to non-mirrored (no signature on the lock case). Flat-keyed were non-mirrored from the start of production.Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
I think that the main motivation was economic. Polish policemen are still used to the old MO non-mirrored cuffs (you can find them in use, although less and less frequent - they are/were replaced by Kelmets, Hiatts and Alcyons), so it doesn't make that big of a difference if they are mirrored/non-mirrored.
anon
#11A very unusual key hole which makes no sense as the key can be inserted in the wrong direction and could possibly result in a broken key.Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
Maybe the pin tip will prevent it from going in too deep if inserted incorrectly to avoid a breakage problem.
It would have been better to punch a regular keyhole shaped hole than the oval one they chose to go with.
Rasberius
#12There is no way to insert the key in the wrong way. The tip of the key is long enough.Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
anon
#13I guess you could attempt to put the key in wrong only to find out you have to turn it around 180 degrees.Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
silentbd
#14It's clunky. There should be no ambiguity of what direction you need to put a key into a lock. Like the old cruciform keys where you have to try up to 4 different times to get the key in the lock until you have the particular side facing the right way. Clunky. Frankly them being new is the only excuse. The key looks like it goes to a set of handcuffs from 1967 or something. I am personally not a fan of those. Even having no occupation requiring handcuffs I still wouldn't want them.Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
anon
#15the cruciform key typically has one of the 4 sides slightly larger than the other 3, so it would only go in 1 way to be fully inserted, but like this cuff, you would have to try each way until the key was properly seatedDoes anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
Rasberius
#16I have this model. And the problem is not there.Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
silentbd
#17I am considering buying a pair of these given that I can actually buy more keys, else I would never consider it. I like to know I have backup keys for cuffs. I keep a minimum cuff key count in my wallet so that I can open all or at least most of the cuffs in my possession. My only exception so far is the double lock of some high security Chinese cuffs I do not carry. However the price of these cuffs was so tempting that I knew it was likely I would order them.Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
Are these NIJ certified does anyone know?
axylon
#18are they double-locking? Does the cut in the key flag serve a purpose?Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
silentbd
#19"These handcuffs with an unusual twisted chain are very well made Like all KEL_MET metal restraints, they are made of stainless steel without any nickel plating. They can be securely double locked by small push buttons which are activated by use of the key-top. To unlock the double lock, the key has to be turned against opening direction. All KEL-MET restraints use a special solid key with double bit and cannot be operated with an US standard handcuffs key."Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
delta
#20What is the model number for these hand cuffs? I cannot find it anywhere.Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
djhalfdead
#21Get them from Cuffsland. Listed under France/Poland Handcuffs. http://www.cuffsland.com/Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
-Richard Knip-
delta
#22I realised this but I would like to document when I have them what the model is. For example the hiatt speedcuffs are actually model 2103 but rarely people realise this because everyone just knows them as speedcuffs or hiatt rigid cuffs.Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
I just want to be able to document the correct model number that represent those kelmet handcuffs.
Atame
#23Hello,Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
strangely the KEL-MET restraints have no model-names!
http://www.kelmet.pl/militaria
Best ragrds,
Guenter
KEL-MET
#24Hi everyone,Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
I am Dorota, export manager from Kel-Met.
I introduce you the names of handcuffs:
Stainless steel handcuffs - KM 1000
Handcuffs for training - KM 1100
"Rigid" handcuffs - KM 2000
Hinged handcuffs - KM 2500
Cuffs for feet - KM 4000
Feet and hands cuffs - KM 4500
All you can check here:http://kelmet-cuffs.com/handcuffs-cuffs ... atons.html
Thank you for all yours reviews. We are working on new improvements. These stainless steel handcuffs will be available soon with universal key.
loud lively collector
#25Why is your site under construction when I click a product? Never before have I seehttp://kelmet-cuffs.com but I have seen what appears to be the officialhttps://www.kelmet.pl/militariaDoes anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
What's with the new domain name? Do you have any evidence that kelmet-cuffs.com is a legitimate and genuine address?
KEL-MET
#26Our main domain for export is:http://kelmet-defence.eu/Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
We are working now on our new site which is under domain -http://kelmet-cuffs.com/, it is under construction, i just wanted show you names of our models, which are shown on this page in tabel.
Complete information about products you will find athttp://kelmet-defence.eu/
Best,
Dorota
loud lively collector
#27Thank you for that information. I look forward to your newer secure locking mechanism.Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
KEL-MET
#28I would like to thanks for all your reviews and suggestions. Thanks to them we are improving our stainless steel handcuffs.Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
I am very happy to inform you that in few weeks we will introduce an improved model of our stainless steel handcuffs (KM 1000). Improved model will have new lock mechanism with universal key and handcuffs will be MIRRORED (for right and left hand).
All our cuffs are compliance to NIJ certificate.
loud lively collector
#29You mean the lock will be harder for someone to pick?Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
Also it would help if the double lock area were larger and easier for someone to engage. It is extremely difficult to use the double lock when someone is moving around. The double lock sticks outward and is exceptionally difficult to engage.
Anonimus
#30To loud lively collectorDoes anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
The standard key and pick resistance are theoretically incompatible
loud lively collector
#31Do you have plans to make a secure mechanism? Your currently one isnt very secure.Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
KEL-MET
#32The lock will have bolt wchich won't allow the use of pickles, wires, etc.Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
Thank you for reviews about double lock area.
FindingMono
#33Wow!Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
These are really nice. can they stikll be purchased?
silentbd
#34I would love to see a cutaway view of this cuff and also the new more secure double lock one to see what is inside. Does anyone have any pictures of the inside of Kel-Met modern cuffs?Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
KEL-MET
#35A new-improved model of KEL-MET handcuffs coming soon.Does anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
Photos at:https://plus.google.com/111527277053350826040
silentbd
#36New pictures of the updated model:http://www.kelmet-defence.eu/stainless- ... m1000.htmlDoes anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
Unknown / guest
#37New URL due to recommendation not to re-use the same model number for the new design:http://kelmet-defence.eu/km-1001-stainl ... cuffs.htmlDoes anyone have any info on these? I only have this picture.
