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Revisiting old TCH800 for quality and feel.

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silentbd 13 Nov 2016
#1
I have had some experience of several brands of handcuffs and models and just was cleaning up and re-lubricating my collection so far and decided to compare each for over all feel while worn. Aside from the Yule pairs I had which had silicone on them, the TCH model 800 was overwhelmingly the most comfortable. Looks good, really shiny and has all rounded edges and was just really good quality feeling. Other ones like smith and wesson, alcyon, peerless just do not come anywhere close to being as comfortable as the TCH800. Peerless was a decent second place though.

One weird thing I found is, the TCH800 (chain link, standard size) are smoother and more comfortable than the TCH840 series or even TCH850 series cuffs. Why would different models not have the same high quality rounded, more comfortable aspect to them that the original TCH800 model has?

I have damaged my 800's by trying to file down the front 3 pawls to see if I would be able to make the single strand pull open as I have seen on TV. So, in time I will replace them so I have a nice brand new pair. (my test failed so far, but I have not fully filed it down enough, I lost interest after repeated failures and lots of filing effort)

Has anyone else noticed these quality differences?
Martin 14 Nov 2016
#2
Should cut the damaged ones to exspose the lock and fit some perspex to them that would be quite smart as they are already damaged.
silentbd 14 Nov 2016
#3
I have had some experience of several brands of handcuffs and models and just was cleaning up and re-lubricating my collection so far and decided to compare each for over all feel while worn. Aside from the Yule pairs I had which had silicone on them, the TCH model 800 was overwhelmingly the most comfortable. Looks good, really shiny and has all rounded edges and was just really good quality feeling. Other ones like smith and wesson, alcyon, peerless just do not come anywhere close to being as comfortable as the TCH800. Peerless was a decent second place though.

One weird thing I found is, the TCH800 (chain link, standard size) are smoother and more comfortable than the TCH840 series or even TCH850 series cuffs. Why would different models not have the same high quality rounded, more comfortable aspect to them that the original TCH800 model has?

I have damaged my 800's by trying to file down the front 3 pawls to see if I would be able to make the single strand pull open as I have seen on TV. So, in time I will replace them so I have a nice brand new pair. (my test failed so far, but I have not fully filed it down enough, I lost interest after repeated failures and lots of filing effort)

Has anyone else noticed these quality differences?
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I say damaged, they work but the part that fits into the bow ditches is too thin to be of any added security against someone cutting the bow near the boss rivet (they are not cuffs in any kind of actual service, so a non issue) and on one side I have filed the front parts of the pawls down, although not enough to succeed with my attempt to make them pull open. So as for the basic functionality they still single lock and double lock perfectly. I like the idea of cutting one open but I am not equipped for such a task.

My theory is, since the backloading is controlled by the back 3 flattened and lowered pawl teeth, I want to see if I file the front 3 down, if the cuffs become able to pull fully open when single locked, just to see if it replicates what I think is done sometimes in hollywood. You see people unlock handcuffs but you hear the unmistakable full volume ratcheting sound, making me think they are slipping them open rather than messing with the key which would also explain how quickly someone goes from both hands cuffed to totally free.

But with my experience I would for sure like to replace them with a new pair. Now that I tried them out and compared now that I have more to compare against, I kind of wish I had not defaced them now But in time I will get the determination to try and continue filing to see if I can achieve my goal. It's a lot of work though with a little hand diamond file.
Anonymous 15 Nov 2016
#4
I have had some experience of several brands of handcuffs and models and just was cleaning up and re-lubricating my collection so far and decided to compare each for over all feel while worn. Aside from the Yule pairs I had which had silicone on them, the TCH model 800 was overwhelmingly the most comfortable. Looks good, really shiny and has all rounded edges and was just really good quality feeling. Other ones like smith and wesson, alcyon, peerless just do not come anywhere close to being as comfortable as the TCH800. Peerless was a decent second place though.

One weird thing I found is, the TCH800 (chain link, standard size) are smoother and more comfortable than the TCH840 series or even TCH850 series cuffs. Why would different models not have the same high quality rounded, more comfortable aspect to them that the original TCH800 model has?

I have damaged my 800's by trying to file down the front 3 pawls to see if I would be able to make the single strand pull open as I have seen on TV. So, in time I will replace them so I have a nice brand new pair. (my test failed so far, but I have not fully filed it down enough, I lost interest after repeated failures and lots of filing effort)

Has anyone else noticed these quality differences?
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silentbd 18 Nov 2016
#5
I have had some experience of several brands of handcuffs and models and just was cleaning up and re-lubricating my collection so far and decided to compare each for over all feel while worn. Aside from the Yule pairs I had which had silicone on them, the TCH model 800 was overwhelmingly the most comfortable. Looks good, really shiny and has all rounded edges and was just really good quality feeling. Other ones like smith and wesson, alcyon, peerless just do not come anywhere close to being as comfortable as the TCH800. Peerless was a decent second place though.

One weird thing I found is, the TCH800 (chain link, standard size) are smoother and more comfortable than the TCH840 series or even TCH850 series cuffs. Why would different models not have the same high quality rounded, more comfortable aspect to them that the original TCH800 model has?

I have damaged my 800's by trying to file down the front 3 pawls to see if I would be able to make the single strand pull open as I have seen on TV. So, in time I will replace them so I have a nice brand new pair. (my test failed so far, but I have not fully filed it down enough, I lost interest after repeated failures and lots of filing effort)

Has anyone else noticed these quality differences?
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Thanks. I have ordered that handcuff hacking book. Might be interesting.
Unknown / guest 22 Nov 2016
#6
I have had some experience of several brands of handcuffs and models and just was cleaning up and re-lubricating my collection so far and decided to compare each for over all feel while worn. Aside from the Yule pairs I had which had silicone on them, the TCH model 800 was overwhelmingly the most comfortable. Looks good, really shiny and has all rounded edges and was just really good quality feeling. Other ones like smith and wesson, alcyon, peerless just do not come anywhere close to being as comfortable as the TCH800. Peerless was a decent second place though.

One weird thing I found is, the TCH800 (chain link, standard size) are smoother and more comfortable than the TCH840 series or even TCH850 series cuffs. Why would different models not have the same high quality rounded, more comfortable aspect to them that the original TCH800 model has?

I have damaged my 800's by trying to file down the front 3 pawls to see if I would be able to make the single strand pull open as I have seen on TV. So, in time I will replace them so I have a nice brand new pair. (my test failed so far, but I have not fully filed it down enough, I lost interest after repeated failures and lots of filing effort)

Has anyone else noticed these quality differences?
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@Anonymous Thanks for recommending the book on hacking handcuffs. My original attempt to "gimmick" my old TCH800 handcuffs was a failure and involved trying to file down the pawl teeth. After reading through some of this book until I got to the gimmicking area, I then tried filing the teeth of the single strands. After a gruling hour of work I have finally breathed new life into my old TCH800 (that I still plan on replacing, in time, so that I have a legit normal TCH800 pair) and now are able to be pulled open!

A useless but somewhat fun project. Now if anyone I know wants to borrow a pair of handcuffs I can offer them that pair for safety. Although they can still be double locked and become as secure as any normal TCH800 from my own tests.
Anonymous 22 Nov 2016
#7
I have had some experience of several brands of handcuffs and models and just was cleaning up and re-lubricating my collection so far and decided to compare each for over all feel while worn. Aside from the Yule pairs I had which had silicone on them, the TCH model 800 was overwhelmingly the most comfortable. Looks good, really shiny and has all rounded edges and was just really good quality feeling. Other ones like smith and wesson, alcyon, peerless just do not come anywhere close to being as comfortable as the TCH800. Peerless was a decent second place though.

One weird thing I found is, the TCH800 (chain link, standard size) are smoother and more comfortable than the TCH840 series or even TCH850 series cuffs. Why would different models not have the same high quality rounded, more comfortable aspect to them that the original TCH800 model has?

I have damaged my 800's by trying to file down the front 3 pawls to see if I would be able to make the single strand pull open as I have seen on TV. So, in time I will replace them so I have a nice brand new pair. (my test failed so far, but I have not fully filed it down enough, I lost interest after repeated failures and lots of filing effort)

Has anyone else noticed these quality differences?
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Thanks @sbd! I felt that the material you'd find in those links would help you along the way .........

silentbd 23 Nov 2016
#8
I have had some experience of several brands of handcuffs and models and just was cleaning up and re-lubricating my collection so far and decided to compare each for over all feel while worn. Aside from the Yule pairs I had which had silicone on them, the TCH model 800 was overwhelmingly the most comfortable. Looks good, really shiny and has all rounded edges and was just really good quality feeling. Other ones like smith and wesson, alcyon, peerless just do not come anywhere close to being as comfortable as the TCH800. Peerless was a decent second place though.

One weird thing I found is, the TCH800 (chain link, standard size) are smoother and more comfortable than the TCH840 series or even TCH850 series cuffs. Why would different models not have the same high quality rounded, more comfortable aspect to them that the original TCH800 model has?

I have damaged my 800's by trying to file down the front 3 pawls to see if I would be able to make the single strand pull open as I have seen on TV. So, in time I will replace them so I have a nice brand new pair. (my test failed so far, but I have not fully filed it down enough, I lost interest after repeated failures and lots of filing effort)

Has anyone else noticed these quality differences?
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Theirs showed a flattening of the teeth, a bit weird but upon seeing what they were doing, comparing to normal ones, all I needed to do was file a slope on the side that is normally flat against the pawl, letting the pawl teeth scoot up the slopes. Here is what I didhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTxSgE93SVg