Can someone identify these as real or fake

I have seen so many pics online if these being faked but the quality looks vintage and well used. Thanks

Cant get pics to post. Here is URL for them

I have seen so many pics online if these being faked but the quality looks vintage and well used. Thanks

Sadly, they are junque.

I have seen so many pics online if these being faked but the quality looks vintage and well used. Thanks

Tim, Tim .............................


It took me a fraction of a second to determine those as FAKES!!!!!!

FYI:

"Any piece with an applied tag or plate, usually brass, with the names of prisons, famous companies such as Wells Fargo, plantations or merchants' names, is almost GUARANTEED to be a fake," said Tanner. "Probably less than one percent of vintage restraints have any names on them. And those are not the pieces that the average buyer is going to be finding at the local flea market. Just avoid any piece with a name tag."

Tags and plates can be attached with super glue, rivets, screws, solder or metal hanging loops. Common names on tags and plates include Alcatraz Prison, San Quentin Prison, New York Insane Asylum, Yuma Prison, Leavenworth Prison, and Sing Sing. Prison names can appear as the name only or in phrases such as "Property of...." followed by the name of the prison.

Other words and phrases commonly appearing on reproductions include the names of "PLANTATIONS" and slave dealers on various new pieces sellers attribute to the slave trade. Names of well known railroads also appear on many new fakes. Some of these include Union Pacific, Santa Fe, Pullman Car Company, Great Northern and Southern Rio Grande. Names of prominent companies associated with the old west are also frequently used. Some of the more common are Pony Express, Railway Express, Wells Fargo, Texas Rangers and other similar names.

Excerpted from:
https://www.realorrepro.com/article/New ... e-shackles

See also:
http://www.ebay.com/gds/FAKE-SLAVE-TAGS ... 767/g.html

I have seen so many pics online if these being faked but the quality looks vintage and well used. Thanks

Its Amazing how "Aged" some things can look
when a little patina acid is applied.

ML

I have seen so many pics online if these being faked but the quality looks vintage and well used. Thanks

Hello All,

While we're on the topic of fakes/reproductions, an auction I followed recently ended with this cuff reaching a pretty hefty winning bid.

At first blush the cuff appeared to be an old one-off or prototype. But the overall construction looked pretty sloppy and weak, the keyhole outsized, and the "single strand rivet" especially prone to attack.

Moreover, the seller seemed to be offering other reproduction items. Do the collectors concur?

A mattatuckish/toweresque Eastern "copy" is a new one on me.

Here's a link to the original auction:http://www.ebay.com/itm/SET-OF-VINTAGE- ... 2438504356?

Best Wishes!

I have seen so many pics online if these being faked but the quality looks vintage and well used. Thanks

Also, look where the tip of the round bow exits through the lockcase. Since the "single strand" is round, I'd expect a round opening w/ tight tolerances on a period cuff.

I'd love to see how it responds to various means of manipulation. Could be an escape artist's dream!

I have seen so many pics online if these being faked but the quality looks vintage and well used. Thanks

Seems like shill bidding to me... These look like toys, and authentic versions these are loosely modeled on go for less $ in much better shape. Think of it, would anyone spend that much at a point in their collecting hobby where they couldn't spot the most rudimentary of fakes? And you gotta love the obligatory "one key included" as if it were too much trouble to reach down into the bucket beside the work bench and grab a second key. I guess that would draw too much attention...

I have seen so many pics online if these being faked but the quality looks vintage and well used. Thanks

A second pair just appeared on eBay. 192040605093

I have seen so many pics online if these being faked but the quality looks vintage and well used. Thanks

fake

I have seen so many pics online if these being faked but the quality looks vintage and well used. Thanks

Fake ............

If you cleaned the rust off, there wouldn't be much left!!!!

I have seen so many pics online if these being faked but the quality looks vintage and well used. Thanks

we know it's fake, how many other people have to come herte and keep telling us what we already know.
FFS