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Looking for Rivolier leg shackles

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HellofromFrance 14 Aug 2018
#1
Hello 

I'm asking for the forum's help to purchase the old Rivolier leg shackles 
The ones that look like like slave shackles http://www.fesselmuseum.de/rivolier01.300x200.jpeg

First way would be a collector willing to sell his pair to another collector
Second way would be to provide me the link of a website selling them in Europe

Many thanks for your help
Tremex 14 Aug 2018
#2
This site offers some models :

http://www.handschellen.deveri.de/index ... uct_id=429
http://www.handschellen.deveri.de/index ... uct_id=431

But not tested yet.
eRestraint 14 Aug 2018
#3
I have a set I would be willing to part with.
santini 16 Aug 2018
#4
Hi Orchid. I just sent an e mail to your erestraint addy. Cheers, Steve
Mark Lyons O--O Cuffs 17 Aug 2018
#5
Before Rivolier was selling the more modern leg irons, either they or another company was making these older versions.
I have read that these were used to secure prisoners headed to Devils Island.  The large center ring would allow for a long chain to be inserted to contain many prisoners together or lock them down to a ship to prevent an uprising.
Harry_Tasker 17 Sep 2018
#6
Tremex wrote:http://www.handschellen.deveri.de/index ... uct_id=429
http://www.handschellen.deveri.de/index ... uct_id=431
But not tested yet.
*yikes*
Deveri ? Really ? Until now I have not heared goods things about them
See for instance this thread here : https://www.handschellenforum.de/forum/ ... php?t=5724
I would at least advice caution.

And maybe considering a KUB Version of the cuffs. At least if they are not meant as a collectors item but for play.
RyanVaene 17 Sep 2018
#7
There is currently a pair of the French Rivolier shackles on eBay, from the erestraints auction. I think it looks really nice, but isn't highest priority in my collection plans at the moment.

Harry_Tasker, I wondered about the KUB version of the French Rivolier shackle you mentioned. I have a lot of KUB items in my collection, but I have yet to come across a KUB version of this shackle, unless you are referring to these, which is the closest I've seen of the high-quality Pakistani line.
They are certainly reminiscent of the French Rivolier. The lock case is similar, even though the locking mechanism is different.
I am a novice collector by all means, but I will still share my impressions and thoughts. The main differences being that the KUB has a Hamburg lock with push style key, (not very secure, I can open it with a multitool,) and the Rivolier shackles having a shackle connection to the chain! There are other significant differences such as the Rivoliers seem to have a more square shape and are of a different metal.
If there is a Rivolier version produced by KUB I would be interested in one! Does anyone have a KUB version of the Rivolier in their collection?
KUB  Hamburg leg irons, snap shut, with push key. I've found that some of the later KUB cuffs have this smaller gauge chain, as compared to the larger links of some earlier items which were numbered. The chain is a little longer than needed, and it would be nice if the swivel had an O ring on each end to join it to the chain. They look great and are of nickle plated brass. There was a stainless steel version, slightly smaller, that I have been hoping to find, but it has been sold out for about a year.

I'll bring my next installment in the series to the forum soon here. It will be about the KUB items.
Harry_Tasker 18 Sep 2018
#8
RyanVaene wrote: If there is a Rivolier version produced by KUB I would be interested in one! Does anyone have a KUB version of the Rivolier in their collection?
I do.
You can see that for instance on my homepage : http://www.zwangsjacke.net/seiten/kub.html
You may notice that there also is a handcuff of the same design.
I had not seen one like that before and asked KUB to create one so there would be a matching set.
And they did.
RyanVaene 18 Sep 2018
#9
Thank you for the information; my memory is jogged now, and I've now been able to find those on the KUB website. 
They look really nice, and I really like all my other KUB items.
I've never seen these Rivolier cuffs available from a retailer, though. Were you able to order directly through KUB? I was under the impression that they only do wholesale orders, and the retailers I know of have a limited range of items.
Great that they are making them. The matching set would be a nice thing to have!
Harry_Tasker 18 Sep 2018
#10
RyanVaene wrote:
I've never seen these Rivolier cuffs available from a retailer, though. Were you able to order directly through KUB? I was under the impression that they only do wholesale orders, and the retailers I know of have a limited range of items.
I am a retailer...
Tremex 18 Sep 2018
#11
@ Harry Tasker

Bad reputation ?? Fuck, I have made an order for testing them. I must wait now, otherwise I hope my bank could reimburse me.
And the next time I will make affairs with you (moreover it's not not the first time).

But their offer was attractive, so I have tried.
Harry_Tasker 18 Sep 2018
#12
Tremex wrote: @ Harry Tasker

Bad reputation ?? Fuck, I have made an order for testing them. I must wait now, otherwise I hope my bank could reimburse me.
And the next time I will make affairs with you (moreover it's not not the first time).

But their offer was attractive, so I have tried.
You never know.
The info on the german messageboard is a tad old.
Maybe they have changed for the better.

*fingers crossed*
djhalfdead 03 Feb 2023
#13
Tremex wrote: ↑
Sep 18, 2018
@ Harry Tasker

Bad reputation ?? Fuck, I have made an order for testing them. I must wait now, otherwise I hope my bank could reimburse me.
And the next time I will make affairs with you (moreover it's not not the first time).

But their offer was attractive, so I have tried.
Tremex, any update on if your order arrived from that website?
-Richard Knip-
Tremex 07 Feb 2023
#14
Hello,
I had forgotten this mess, with the time !

No, never have more news from my order, after a first partial shipping (and a broken item). Since, I have deleted my links to this website, if ever alive.
djhalfdead 08 Feb 2023
#15
Tremex wrote: ↑
Feb 07, 2023
Hello,
I had forgotten this mess, with the time !

No, never have more news from my order, after a first partial shipping (and a broken item). Since, I have deleted my links to this website, if ever alive.
Thank you for the insight, Tremex. I, too, will avoid purchasing from them. Much appreciated!
-Richard Knip-