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Smith and Wesson model 200

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Icman93 24 Nov 2018
#1
Anyone have estimated value on these? Tried looking on eBay but couldn’t find anything there I know a little beat up.
iceman 6 24 Nov 2018
#2
Rare, discontinue within months of manufacture, hinge can be broken with force. if they didn't cost you much, hang on to them.
Tremex 24 Nov 2018
#3
I have watched my papers : M-200 "new in box" sold for 310 $ in june 2017, engraved model not sold for 200 $ in 2016. Some M-210 sold between 200 and 300 $.
djhalfdead 25 Nov 2018
#4
Ebay within the last few years, has been about $150 to $200 for a good pair of M-200 cuffs. I was lucky to get a 200, a 210, and a 200 with an odd hinge assembly.
-Richard Knip-
grenchat 26 Nov 2018
#5
The S&W Model 200 was Smith and Wesson’s first hinged model. I picked up a pair of these in the late ‘80s mainly because they were new and looked good in the uniform shop’s display case. The first issue that I had with these was that they didn’t fit well in my Bianchi basketweave handcuff case, so I used a handcuff strap to attach them to my belt. After carrying them to work for a couple of weeks, it occurred to me that the hinge was poorly designed, had only a limited pivot range, and looked like it might break, or that the hinge pin might work its way loose over time. 

Fortunately a friend working as a LEO at the time wanted hinged cuffs, so I traded him the M-200 for a non-handcuff antique that I wanted for my collection.

I’ve seen examples in excellent condition with original packaging go for over $200 in the early 2000’s. Haven’t checked the values lately….

Jason
 
 
94104 27 Nov 2018
#6
Wow, the hinge sure does look flimsy. Looks more like what s&w would put out today, not back in the 80's. To see the quilty control of s&w go to shit is a sad thing to watch. :/
40149 27 Nov 2018
#7
apart from going from welded lock to riveted (my opinion) , what else is a downgrade in your opinion?
Icman93 27 Nov 2018
#8
Picked this set up for $10 on offerup
94104 27 Nov 2018
#9
40149 wrote: apart from going from welded lock to riveted (my opinion) , what else is a downgrade in your opinion?
The last few s&w cuffs have the "new" finish on them. Not the nice nickle anymore. These look like a dull galvanizing job. The key holes have burs in almost every pair and after a few weeks of use you can see how the paw and bows are not wearing even. This again looks like burs on the bows or just misaligned when they cut the teeth on them. If you look back a bit you will even find a post of a brand new pair of transports i bought that the handcuffs got jammed up and had to be cut off and sent back with a key that jumped the double lock and could not be removed. I have alot of older smith cuffs and side by side you can see and feel the difference in quality. Something as important as these tools are they should be getting better with time, not worse.
grenchat 27 Nov 2018
#10
The model 9x, 9xx series were always my favorite in terms of design, fit and finish, That said, I was also completely satisfied with my NIJ certified model 100 I bought when the newer 10x series became widely available. Comparing the new model 100 with my earlier 9x series cuffs, I noted one small though worthwhile security enhancement: the tiny leaf spring attached to the pawl on the 9x series was partially exposed, so if the cuffs were tightened only a couple of notches and only single-locked, it was very easy to insert a small bent nail or similar object into the cuff just beyond the pawl, and this would disengage it from the ratchet. On the redesigned 10x series only the pawl is exposed.

I understand that the new Peerless and S&W cuffs incorporate spun rivets. The large influx of clones coming out of Asia must’ve really hurt their sales figures. Personally, I’ve never bought one of these newer cuffs because I’m so happy with the quality and styling of the former models.  

Jason
 
40194 to 4104 28 Nov 2018
#11
Thank you, are they still made in the country or have they gone overseas to make them. The cuffs sound cheap and nasty.
94104 28 Nov 2018
#12
S&w is still made in America. Its just following the trend of cutting cost instead of increasing quality. Everyone wants stuff at a cheaper price. Hell, just look at ebay and amazon. Most of it is china made junk and counterfeit products. And people still buy it and seem ok with the fact it breaks as soon as it does. From cheap cuffs to led light bars or parts for your car. I try not to buy any of it but almost everything, even if i buy from the local store, is made in China. This all forces companies like S&W to look for cheaper ways to make the same thing. They have to, or most people will just buy the china knockoff. Alot of gun companies are following this trend. Remington, bushmaster, marlin and others. Once they get bought buy the Freedom group, its all down hill. Sad really.
69634 28 Nov 2018
#13
yes it is really sad to see stuff made cheap and the quality go down hill. So proud of you not to want to buy anything made in China. That's the stand we all should take. Considering that now with the tariffs, it all costs more anyway.  God help us if ours rifle are made cheaply. Then we won't be able to accurately kill those we don't want crossing the border or worse, do a mass shooting and then the rifle fails.
94104 28 Nov 2018
#14
69634 wrote: yes it is really sad to see stuff made cheap and the quality go down hill. So proud of you not to want to buy anything made in China. That's the stand we all should take. Considering that now with the tariffs, it all costs more anyway.  God help us if ours rifle are made cheaply. Then we won't be able to accurately kill those we don't want crossing the border or worse, do a mass shooting and then the rifle fails.
The tariffs will work, give it time.

On the other matter, sounds like you have some mental issues. May I suggest you go seek professional help to help you work thru some of those crazy ideas that you even felt the need to write down. Did you know deer season just started. 488,000+ people with loaded rifles and not one mass shooting or murder of a human in the woods. Weird huh? Kinda makes ya think only the people that have some kind of metal issue who even think to use such a tool in such a way are the real issues. < looking at you>
border control 29 Nov 2018
#15
  know wonder you're worried, watch out for the hooded one.  
94104point3 in context 02 Dec 2018
#16
Hunting Accident Statistics
A report published by American orthopedic surgeons Randall Loder and Neil Farrenin 2014 showed that between 1993 and 2008, 35,970 firearm-related injuries involved in hunting were reported to U.S. hospitals or about 2,400 per year over the fifteen-year period of the study. That's out of a total of 1,841,269 total accidents involving firearms (about per year 123,000). 

Hunters injured by firearms in this study were nearly all Caucasian (91.8 percent), young adult to middle-aged (24-44) and male (91.8 percent), who came to small hospitals (65.9 percent) to be treated. They were most often shot (56 percent) but other injuries—fractures and lacerations from falling out of trees, etc.—made up the rest. The injuries were most common in the head and neck (46.9 percent), self-inflicted (85 percent), unintentional (99.4 percent), at a school or recreation center (37.1 percent), and with an overall mortality rate of 0.6 percent (about 144 per year). The mortality rate is lower than reported elsewhere because the study included all injuries reported with hunting accidents. Alcohol was an issue in only 1.5 percent of the cases. The most common type of injury was a laceration (37 percent), not a puncture wound (15.4 percent). 

It will come as no surprise that most of the injuries occurred during the hunting months of October, November, and December. The study found that the estimated incidence of a firearm injury associated with hunting activities is 9 in 1 million hunting days. 
Mo's Restraints Museum 17 Mar 2019
#17
You are lucky buddy to own those handcuffs, I'm looking to buy them....
Icman93 18 Mar 2019
#18
Looking to sell these ones potentially
Mo's Restraints Museum 19 Mar 2019
#19
Icman93 wrote: Looking to sell these ones potentially
I'm not a rich guys but if you are selling them I would like to buy them if the price is interesting :)