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Griffin and Nichols Darby

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lauher 12 Jan 2019
#1
I just recently bought a Griffin and Nichols Darby on eBay.  It was the first important cuff I have added to the collection is quite some time.
The cuff was made essentially two hundred years ago.   The Griffin and Nichols joint partnership was created in 1813 when Thomas Hiatt left the partnership.
In 1816 Griffin died.  Although we don't know when Nichols quit marking cuffs marked with Griffin's name, I think it was rather soon. So I would say this cuff was made between 1813 and 1820.

The other unique thing about that makes it quite special is the key.  It came without a key and when it arrived I immediately tried keys from other cuffs in the collection.
Nothing would fit until I tried one of my few left handed keys.   I have about 200 or so English Darbies and only four or five are left handed. So this new cuff is not only one of my oldest Darbies it is also left handed.

I do have another Griffin and Nichols Darby already, but it is of a unique style different than standard Darbies.  I think it is likely the oldest Darby I own.  So I can say this one is now my oldest left handed example.
I would really like to find a Darby just marked Griffin, but that remains a find for another day.

Joe
ronspitz 12 Jan 2019
#2
Nice find Joe.  I plan to post three cuffs I was lucky to get including a Griffin soon. 

Ron
djhalfdead 13 Jan 2019
#3
Very nice, Joe! I saw that one going around on Ebay. When I seen that it was sold, i wonder if one of us had gotten it. Congrats! A really cool piece!
-Richard Knip-
escapeguy 13 Jan 2019
#4
Joe, I'll sign it for you LOL.
lauher 13 Jan 2019
#5
escapeguy wrote: Joe, I'll sign it for you LOL.
Thanks Michael. I will ask Alex to do the same.
ronspitz 13 Jan 2019
#6
Joe, I goofed.  I do not have a Griffin.  I was thinking about a Parker which I picked up.  Taking pictures now.

Ron
Paul 13 Jan 2019
#7
That is an important cuff Joe. Great condition too. 
The seller seemed to know its value. 
eBay is killing off my interest in cuffs at the moment, with a new 10% tax to Australia and import restrictions via Global Shipping Program, but I love seeing what new finds you guys are getting.
Congrats
Paul Davies
grenchat 14 Jan 2019
#8
Paul wrote: eBay is killing off my interest in cuffs at the moment, with a new 10% tax to Australia and import restrictions via Global Shipping Program, but I love seeing what new finds you guys are getting.
Congrats
Paul Davies
Ah the irony of the injustice!

Between the excessive tariffs, tolls, taxation, restrictions and the ever increasing cost of living, soon only criminals will be able to afford handcuffs.

I’m still saving up for this vintage set….

Jason
 
too costly 14 Jan 2019
#9
grenchat wrote:I’m still saving up for this vintage set….


 
The shipping is too costly to warrant the purchase
Plungerman 28 Jan 2019
#10
Good job, Joe. I stared right at it and did not spot the names. I probably would never have worked out the left handedness. But then you are the master of Chirality.
MrAkela 25 Feb 2019
#11
If I may ask the stupid question, please humor me.  When you say 'left handed' you are referring to the pitch of the screw?  Left hand thread.
lauher 25 Feb 2019
#12
Yes, exactly that.  You turn the key to the left to screw it in.  It is a great example of a early "high security" key.
MrAkela 25 Feb 2019
#13
Virtually anybody with a threaded Darby key would get it wrong, even if they had the right key.
aunty helper 26 Feb 2019
#14
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-hand_rule 
see section helices and screws for image.
Plungerman 27 Feb 2019
#15
I was always taught 'Righty Tighty, Lefty Loosey' and it worked for me right up to the cross product.
J-C 27 Feb 2019
#16
"cross' product.......... what? 
Is there a do it yourself crucifixion? you know you can never get that last nail in alone. LOL
Plungerman 27 Feb 2019
#17
No, just one of two ways to multiply vectors. It uses the right hand rule.

Question: Was it common to screw the key all the way in to open or did they screw in part way and pull?
Thanks
BDF 24 Jan 2020
#18
I am building a set of Darby style cuffs as an exercise in Blacksmithing
Because of the technical challenges involved.
Are there any historical accounts of a blacksmith being consigned to make cuff for anyone?.
Thanks
IAN L MCCOLL 24 Jan 2020
#19
I consigned a Blacksmith named Fleckhammer, in Wandin Victoria to produced 5 Plug 8 handcuffs back in the 1980's. Most Asian Darbies are blacksmithed. European and British (pre and post brexit LOL) are cast. I'd really like to see your finished work, would be  a fun task.
Big Dog Forge 24 Jan 2020
#20
Thanks for the info I will post pics soon
Castle watch 25 Jan 2020
#21
Big Dog Forge, did you make the shackle in the post "Restraint from Senegal slavery" ?
Big Dog Forge 26 Jan 2020
#22
I am very new to this so I'm not sure what your referring to sorry
Castle watch 26 Jan 2020
#23
about three down on the list of topic is a  post titled ...."Restraint from Senegal slavery

by BornToEscape posted in The Forum at Handcuffs.Org " the shackle in the photo is blacksmithed  and  looks very clean and new. It would be an ideal project for a journeyman blacksmith as a project. 
Big Dog Forge 27 Jan 2020
#24
Here's a photo let me know what you think.
Mechanically they turned out very well, 
A YouTube video of the complete build will be posted in a couple of days.
djhalfdead 27 Jan 2020
#25
Nicely done, Big Dog! Those are pretty cool looking!
-Richard Knip-