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KNOWN ER's

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Original topic ↗Recovered images
ronspitz 17 Aug 2019
#1
Over the years John Bushey had been keeping track of the known ER handcuffs, leg irons and shackles.  Several years ago I took over the task.  The idea was to gather a data base and see if any information could be made by the markings.  Looking at the small samples we have, it looks like the handcuffs may have been numbered in series of manufacture.  The leg iron markings has such a small sample, being very rare, that a pattern can not be determined.  

I thought I would publish this information with the names of the owners removed since that was the original agreement.  As new information was obtained I sent a new copy to the owners that I have an email address for.  There are two collectors that I don't have an address and if anyone has an ER and does not see it on the list please contact me at ronspitz@msn.com 

This is the first time this list has been published and I hope the information will be useful.

Ron
KruegerKuffs 18 Aug 2019
#2
I don't have any, just a McColl repro. But maybe we could add McKenzie Mitts, Palmers and Oregon Boots to the list?

Nils
lauher 18 Aug 2019
#3
Ron
Thanks for posting the list.  It certainly has grown over the years.
Here is a picture.

Top:  ER padlock
Middle:  Handcuff 1020
Bottom  Left:  Shackle #5  CCW
Bottom Right:  Shackle #2  CW

Joe
Fred Pittella 18 Aug 2019
#4
Sorry to say there are no markings
Ian McColl 20 Aug 2019
#5
they look familiar , McColl made key , they have been repaired 2003
Unknown / guest 20 Aug 2019
#6
ER
Ggoebel 20 Aug 2019
#7
MR.. McColl  ,Every new ER found is a Treasure !  But you bring life to the Treasure , with out the KEY of life, It becomes a
Wall hanger! You have brought many a Wall hanger
 to life . Those in the field of collecting. Restraints are for ever grateful.Your unbelievably ability to bring our treasures alive , is a sign  of
a great artist. I for one want to Thank you for bringing some of my pieces to LIFE !!
 With Great Respect for your talent.
Goebel 
Unknown / guest 20 Aug 2019
#8
Mr. MCCOLL, 
I AM SORRY THAT ALL I MENTIONED WAS THE KEY. OF COARSE IT GOES WITH OUT SAYING THE RECONSTRUCTION AND REPAIRS OF THE PIECES THAT COME INTO YOUR  CARE IS THE FIRST KEY, ONCE AGAIN 
THANK YOU , FROM ALL OF US IN THE  RESTRAINT COLLECTING WORLD !
WITH RESPECT.
GGOEBEL 
holstcollection 20 Aug 2019
#9
Thanks Ron!

I agree to Joe, the number has certainly grown over time. Not many were know in 2009 when I bought my set.

Lars
ronspitz 21 Aug 2019
#10
Lars,

Could you please blur your pictures a little.  It makes most of the others look rough.  But really, fantastic condition and the markings are so clear and large.  

I was asked if we were keeping records of ER locks and the answer is no, there are too many of them and most do not have markings other than the ER stamp.  

The main reason for the cuffs was to start a data base of the markings and it seems like the cuffs may be marked is numerical sequence.  There are so few leg irons that the markings can not be correlated.  

Thought I might post one large, heavy ER lock marked ER and 6.

Ron
Ggoebel 22 Aug 2019
#11
Ron,
On your chart you have listed single leg iron groove . What does the word groove mean in the appearance of a single leg iron ? Does it mean that bow is grooved on the out side , something like a trough ? If you have an image that would be great. Thank you so much for posting the list .
Best Regards,
George 
Unknown / guest 22 Aug 2019
#12
Ron,
Thank you for your quick reply . I don’t mean to bother you but please do what you think is best , you are far better at describing  the cuffs than I would be. Thanks for taking the time. It was a surprise That you have never seen them before.Thank you for making my day! Did you get the picture of the cuffs that belonged to Christopher? He always kept them in his showcase in his hallway. I am not sure that they are E.R’ s ,think 
probably not . He did prize them ,they 
ronspitz 22 Aug 2019
#13
For the record I have been corresponding to George via email

Ron
Ggoebel 23 Aug 2019
#14
Ron. I can’t believe your dedication to finding out every bit of information about the subject you are pursuing.
You spent a lot of time on checking out my E.R. Single leg iron. I have had them for years and in 1 day you came up with things I didn’t know. Thank you so much for all of your time and trouble !
George 
holstcollection 25 Aug 2019
#15
Hi Ron,

Thank you for the nice words about the condition on my ER. And yes, the markings are actually very crispy and the surface is smooth..

That's a really nice ER padlock got got there! And the key is in the very same design as for the restraints.

Lars