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For those of you that may have antique Baldwin chain nippers (come along)...

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jimmy.jimenez.65 11 Jul 2020
#1
I would like to request a favor to you folks that may have antique Baldwin chain nippers.
Could you post close up photos of the brand & patent markings that you may have on the handles of your specimen(s)? And, maybe some broader shots showing exact location of these markings on the handle(s).
I want to thank you in advance for helping me out here.
Ian McColl 11 Jul 2020
#2
there is an image in Jack Tanis's page. (thanks for this Jack !) http://www.editing.org.uk/tanis/restraints1.htm
jimmy.jimenez.65 11 Jul 2020
#3
Thank you. I had found these earlier too, but it shows more of a general view, and not close ups of the markings I was looking to see.
From what I understand, the markings are stamped into the tops the handle, rather than on their side. The shared on the link above show the side profiles of the handles, and the therefore do not show the stampings. I do appreciate your trying to help me, Sir :)
Matt3114 11 Jul 2020
#4
There are several. I have one marked Baldwin, one marked Jos. B. & Co. Newark, one marked Patent 276,307 (which is the John J. Tower patent of 1883). Baldwin nippers were invented by Alexander Baldwin on July 7, 1874. They were made in his father's shop in Newark, NJ. His father, Joseph Baldwin, made saddlery hardware.

Matt
jimmy.jimenez.65 11 Jul 2020
#5
I'll explain my being so curious about the Baldwin nipper markings... I have a set of nippers coming my way that I purchased online. The description of it included the fact that the seller he could not make out what the markings on them read. The seller was simply selling them as a set of chain nippers, and there was no mention of any maker or any estimated vintage.
So, solely based on some photos he had posted in his listing, I felt pretty certain, (but not 100% certain), that they were made by the Baldwin folks of come along fame. The only marking I could see in the photo, (ones that are atop of one of the handles), is not clear enough in the photo for me to make out what it actually might read. I am sharing a couple pics here from the sellers listing of it. When I actually receive them, I will be able to more closely inspect that marking, (or if it may have more than that on it), and hopefully be able to determine what, if anything, can be drawn from them about it's history. My wanting to see some photos of these markings on other's known Baldwin nippers, is so I will have something to help me in determining whether or not they are actually Baldwin, and maybe help with determining a circa date for them.
Thanks again in advance for any insight you folks could share with me.


Unknown / guest 25 Jul 2020
#6
I finally received them. They are marked as JOSE B & Co, which I believe stands for Joseph Baldwin & Company.
The other handle has a stamping as well, but it's not legible to me.
Anyhow, I don't know it's vintage, but I know they began in the late 1800's, and since this style didn't have the interlocking handles, like the Bean chain come-alongs, the style probably became obsolete much earlier than that design.


Unknown / guest 25 Jul 2020
#7
After wiping it down with some alcohol to remove a little bit of surface grime, I added it into one of my displays. My collecting of all sorts of "objects", often involves my displaying them in a way where antique, vintage, and present day made, are all represented together. That holds true here with this little sampling of some restraints...

PaulJDavies 26 Jul 2020
#8
The other handle is stamped PA??NT. PATENT. Nice find!
jimmy.jimenez.65 26 Jul 2020
#9
PaulJDavies wrote: ↑
Jul 26, 2020
The other handle is stamped PA??NT. PATENT. Nice find!
Ah, that makes sense, thank you!
Any idea what years these were made up until they stopped?
Thanks!
Unknown / guest 26 Jul 2020
#10
Oh, and just to correct an error I made above, the one stamp I said was"JOSE", is actually "Jos".
Minor error on my part, but I didn't want to leave that uncorrected, since I know others come here to seek information about such things. I surely don't want someone coming away from this post with something that is not correct. You guys have been great in my learning a little bit about this stuff, so I want to help, whenever possible, to help others out in the same manner.
Good stuff guys!
jimmy.jimenez.65 26 Jul 2020
#11
I have been searching the internet for more information about these come-alongs and their maker.
It seems that the manufacturer was known for making saddle hardware and spurs, and were considered to be a quality source for such things. I have not yet found the years that these come-alongs were made by them, and don't know if this company even existed after the owner/founder passed away.
But, in any case, it would seem that the fact of this firm having been a maker of quality saddle hardware and spurs, that it likely makes these come-alongs a cross collectable, being that folks that collect the company's saddle and spurs, would likely be interested in adding the company's come-alongs to their collections as well.

Joseph Baldwin

Born: 1807
Died: 1915
Maker's Mark:
"JOS B & Co"
Joseph Baldwin originally operated a partnership with Alexander Barclay, but in 1860 they separated and each operated their own saddlery companies out of Newark. Joseph Baldwin & Co. produced and sold bits throughout the US as well as in Central and South America. They were known for the high quality of their bits and spurs which were able to rival the quality of imported English bits which were the dominant force in the early 1800s. They produced bits in the California and Mexican styles, as well as more traditional English designs and Military / Cavalry Styles. Most bits are marked “JOS B & CO”.