Ariochmagician
#1This one shows just a few of examples of the many reproductions that are out there
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djhalfdead
#2Good topic for this video, Arioch! A helpful tool for those who want to educate people on spotting a fake or repro cuff. I have had sellers online, that I have contacted to inform them, that the cuff they are selling is not a legit era correct, cuff. Some are very thankful for the message and a few have even asked me to "educate them" on what to look for. Now, there are a small handful that can get rather nasty with you, for offering that information to them!
I had an Ebay seller come back at me really nasty in tone about how he felt about my "opinion" on the age of his cuffs! Called me every name under the sun! A few hours later, I get an email from the same guy. He was much more calm and apologized to me for the names and the way he conducted his response to me. He explained he had bought the pair for $200, earlier in the day at a nearby flea market and was now out the money he spent. He was hoping for a quick buy and flip. The moment he learned he had been taken, he was pretty enraged! But, in the heat of the battle, he took his rage out on me. And wanted to apologize for doing that. He said it was a "knee jerk reaction." I told him that I totally understood his feelings and let him know, that even the big collectors, have likely been taken at one point or another. We have have the learning gauntlet to walk. I told him that I was taken on my first pair of "Civil War Handcuffs." I just let him know to use it as a learning tool and file the info in the back of his mind for his next flea market trip. That seller actually still contacts me, from time to time. Showing me pics of cuffs he can get at his local spot and asking value for them. I have helped him pick out a few pieces that he was able to flip for some decent money, and i have even bought a few pieces that he found.
One thing I have always said to young collectors. Weave a web of dealers, pickers, buyers and sellers, across the world! The more boots on the ground and eyes scanning the tables for you, the better! I have gotten several nice pieces from "pickers" I have met through the years. You can never have too many contacts in the collecting world!
-Richard Knip-
I had an Ebay seller come back at me really nasty in tone about how he felt about my "opinion" on the age of his cuffs! Called me every name under the sun! A few hours later, I get an email from the same guy. He was much more calm and apologized to me for the names and the way he conducted his response to me. He explained he had bought the pair for $200, earlier in the day at a nearby flea market and was now out the money he spent. He was hoping for a quick buy and flip. The moment he learned he had been taken, he was pretty enraged! But, in the heat of the battle, he took his rage out on me. And wanted to apologize for doing that. He said it was a "knee jerk reaction." I told him that I totally understood his feelings and let him know, that even the big collectors, have likely been taken at one point or another. We have have the learning gauntlet to walk. I told him that I was taken on my first pair of "Civil War Handcuffs." I just let him know to use it as a learning tool and file the info in the back of his mind for his next flea market trip. That seller actually still contacts me, from time to time. Showing me pics of cuffs he can get at his local spot and asking value for them. I have helped him pick out a few pieces that he was able to flip for some decent money, and i have even bought a few pieces that he found.
One thing I have always said to young collectors. Weave a web of dealers, pickers, buyers and sellers, across the world! The more boots on the ground and eyes scanning the tables for you, the better! I have gotten several nice pieces from "pickers" I have met through the years. You can never have too many contacts in the collecting world!
-Richard Knip-
Ariochmagician
#3Totally agree! I always say the more eyes I have out there looking for me the quicker my collection will grow!djhalfdead wrote:Good topic for this video, Arioch! A helpful tool for those who want to educate people on spotting a fake or repro cuff. I have had sellers online, that I have contacted to inform them, that the cuff they are selling is not a legit era correct, cuff. Some are very thankful for the message and a few have even asked me to "educate them" on what to look for. Now, there are a small handful that can get rather nasty with you, for offering that information to them!Click to expand...
I had an Ebay seller come back at me really nasty in tone about how he felt about my "opinion" on the age of his cuffs! Called me every name under the sun! A few hours later, I get an email from the same guy. He was much more calm and apologized to me for the names and the way he conducted his response to me. He explained he had bought the pair for $200, earlier in the day at a nearby flea market and was now out the money he spent. He was hoping for a quick buy and flip. The moment he learned he had been taken, he was pretty enraged! But, in the heat of the battle, he took his rage out on me. And wanted to apologize for doing that. He said it was a "knee jerk reaction." I told him that I totally understood his feelings and let him know, that even the big collectors, have likely been taken at one point or another. We have have the learning gauntlet to walk. I told him that I was taken on my first pair of "Civil War Handcuffs." I just let him know to use it as a learning tool and file the info in the back of his mind for his next flea market trip. That seller actually still contacts me, from time to time. Showing me pics of cuffs he can get at his local spot and asking value for them. I have helped him pick out a few pieces that he was able to flip for some decent money, and i have even bought a few pieces that he found.
One thing I have always said to young collectors. Weave a web of dealers, pickers, buyers and sellers, across the world! The more boots on the ground and eyes scanning the tables for you, the better! I have gotten several nice pieces from "pickers" I have met through the years. You can never have too many contacts in the collecting world!
-Richard Knip-
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