TejanoLibre
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Are These Authentic Hiatts "Darby Style" Cuffs Please?
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djhalfdead
#2To answer your question, yes, these are authentic Hiatt Darby Handcuffs. However, they are not very old. The name Hiatt that is stamped on them is in a straight line. It is stamped right under the hinge of the cuff. That tells us this is made from the 1970s and up. The keys do not look to be the original keys and these are not made of stainless steel, as they claim them to be. The key marked #17 is not the original key, but I cannot see enough of the other key to tell if it is an original or not? The number stamped on the key would match the number stamped on the cuffs, to be an original key and would have Hiatt stamped on it, in most cases. Knowing all of this and judging by their condition, if the keys actually do open and unlock them, then the $56 asking price is not a horrible price for what is there. If you want an all original set with original keys, etc...then this is not a good set for you.
-Richard Knip-
-Richard Knip-
Ian McColl
#3The Hiatt cuffs appear to be older than the 1970's as the clevis appears to be rivetted to the bow and not integral. The cuffs seem to have been chromed and shows signs of underlying rust at the edge of the clevis and bow. Hard to tell from just photos.
djhalfdead
#4I was using Joe's British Cuff book where he talks about how the Hiatt name was printed and located. This one matched what he said was 1970s and up? Anyway, would you put these around the 1950s? That was my first feeling by looking at the cuffs, before looking it up in the book. Just curious.
-Richard Knip-
-Richard Knip-
PaulJDavies
#5Ian is spot on.
The key marked 17 is of a shape i find most common on World War One C&M marked cuffs ( not the backstrap ones). It has also been altered where the rust is. The shoulder is quite sharp as if turned on a lathe and you can see where a vice had held it. The other key is more likely the original key if the number matches. It has a different shape.
The key marked 17 is of a shape i find most common on World War One C&M marked cuffs ( not the backstrap ones). It has also been altered where the rust is. The shoulder is quite sharp as if turned on a lathe and you can see where a vice had held it. The other key is more likely the original key if the number matches. It has a different shape.
Ian McColl
#6Hi Paul, I noticed that one key appears to suit the cuff and age . The other appears to be a key from another cuff. (even maybe Indian)
Wondering if someone has found a key to add to the cuff to increase the total worth. I just hope that the key is actually the correct pitch and that the end user knows the damage they can cause by using the wrong key.
Wondering if someone has found a key to add to the cuff to increase the total worth. I just hope that the key is actually the correct pitch and that the end user knows the damage they can cause by using the wrong key.
TejanoLibre
#7Howdy Mc.Ian McColl wrote: ↑Jun 18, 2021Hi Paul, I noticed that one key appears to suit the cuff and age . The other appears to be a key from another cuff. (even maybe Indian)
Wondering if someone has found a key to add to the cuff to increase the total worth. I just hope that the key is actually the correct pitch and that the end user knows the damage they can cause by using the wrong key.
Please excuse my ignorance but can the WRONG key actually cause serious problems ? Stupid question I'm sure!
Many Thanks Pal!
TL
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#8TejanoLibre wrote: ↑Click to expand...Jul 01, 2021Howdy Mc.Ian McColl wrote: ↑Jun 18, 2021Hi Paul, I noticed that one key appears to suit the cuff and age . The other appears to be a key from another cuff. (even maybe Indian)
Wondering if someone has found a key to add to the cuff to increase the total worth. I just hope that the key is actually the correct pitch and that the end user knows the damage they can cause by using the wrong key.
Please excuse my ignorance but can the WRONG key actually cause serious problems ? Stupid question I'm sure!
Many Thanks Pal!
TL
Same Key.
+1
One key fits one side and the other key fits the other side but they may be slightly different key shapes.
One thing is certain , I don't have particularly large wrists but these are or they seem to be very small. But most of the plating is still there and I like them so I don't care!
Be Well,
TL
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#9Curious Observations:TejanoLibre wrote: ↑Click to expand...Aug 25, 2021HIATT1.jpgTejanoLibre wrote: ↑Jul 01, 2021Howdy Mc.Ian McColl wrote: ↑Jun 18, 2021Hi Paul, I noticed that one key appears to suit the cuff and age . The other appears to be a key from another cuff. (even maybe Indian)
Wondering if someone has found a key to add to the cuff to increase the total worth. I just hope that the key is actually the correct pitch and that the end user knows the damage they can cause by using the wrong key.
Please excuse my ignorance but can the WRONG key actually cause serious problems ? Stupid question I'm sure!
Many Thanks Pal!
TL
HIATT2.jpgSame Key.
HIATT3.jpgHIATT3.jpgHIATT2.jpgHIATT1.jpgExactly the same key
One key fits one side and the other key fits the other side but they may be slightly different key shapes.
One thing is certain , I don't have particularly large wrists but these are or they seem to be very small. But most of the plating is still there and I like them so I don't care!
Be Well,
TL
My Argentine ''Darby - Hiatt ) Copies can be opened with One of the Copied keys .
But they Hiatt cuffs require both keys to lock and unlock the cuffs.
Although the key's numbers do not match , are slightly different , I think ? Unable to get a great lock at the shapes.
Twisted , with or without corresponding grooves ?
Question Please:
Does the smaller size of the Hiatt inscribed cuffs mean anything in particular?
Maybe for Females or Children?
Many Thanks!
Be Well.
TL
