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Bearded Mike 25 Mar 2022
#1
Does anybody have a pair of these?  www.spidercuff.com

An interesting concept, though doubt how practical they'd be out in the field, so would love to hear from anybody who's had chance to put them through their paces.
KruegerKuffs 25 Mar 2022
#2
I'll take one. Not sure it'll be here to stay, but it'll make an interesting collectible 10 years from now. Are they available for sale yet?

I remember paying 100 bucks for two prototype cuffs that I never got some time back. What was it? QuikCuff? Tuffcuff? Coughcuff?
Mark Lyons O--O Cuffs 25 Mar 2022
#3
I called them and they are having delays on some of their parts.
There is a back order and LE will get theirs first then collectors will receive theirs later.
As a volunteer for 2 different agencies, they said I qualify for the first run.
I did not ask about prices.
The concept is a good one.  A struggling bad guy on dope can put up a good fight and a Taser is often needed, if it even has any effect in amped up individuals.  The cable allows the cuffing of arms while spread apart and gradually bought back to arrest position.  
I see no downside to this design except when the wrists are far apart.  The bad guy can flip the cable around to the front unless he is down on the ground.  Some training will be necessary to prevent this from happening.  If in front and some cable extended, it is possible to wrap the cable around the officer's neck.

I think under controlled situations, this will work very well.
I hope this cuff will aid many LEO and reduce the need for Tasering.
djhalfdead 25 Mar 2022
#4
I have had them on order since the first of the year. I have not heard back from them about the back order, but got the same story as Mark did. It is definitely and interesting design, but at about $329 a set for the extendable version, the price point is pretty high. I can see them being very beneficial in certain circumstances. The non-extendable versions versions were about $159 a set. Ive been chatting with a lady named Deb for about a year now. Very nice, very helpful lady. I wish the company all of the best, but hoping to see the back orders filled soon. When I inquired about it, they do not plan to ship internationally. So, collectors overseas will have to rely on collectors in the states to get sets for them.
-Richard Knip-
Joe Fox 25 Mar 2022
#5
I  wish this company well....but sadly think that they will soon go "belly-up" as have so many recent handcuffs that were touted as being "revolutionary, innovative, and the handcuff of the future".

There's a reason why Peerless and S&W have remained the standard for approx. 100 years.

"If it ain't broke, then don't fix it".

I do however, see "specialty handcuffs" needed for interstate transportation, and for high escape-risk criminals

....but even so, then why not just use a "Marlin-Daley", Towers", Beans", or an "H&R Super"?
Philcheck 26 Mar 2022
#6
I too have chatted with Deb and placed on the waiting list.  Didn’t discuss prices in our emails but Covid threw a wrench in productions plans on getting supplies and rivets to make the cuffs.  See what actually materializes
holstcollection 27 Mar 2022
#7
Joe Fox wrote: ↑
Mar 25, 2022
I  wish this company well....but sadly think that they will soon go "belly-up" as have so many recent handcuffs that were touted as being "revolutionary, innovative, and the handcuff of the future".

There's a reason why Peerless and S&W have remained the standard for approx. 100 years.

"If it ain't broke, then don't fix it".

I do however, see "specialty handcuffs" needed for interstate transportation, and for high escape-risk criminals

....but even so, then why not just use a "Marlin-Daley", Towers", Beans", or an "H&R Super"?
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Joe, you are spot on!

The cuffs you mentioned are for sure "high security cuffs" even up to our time. Try to pick a Marlin or a double locked Tower DL. That's a real challange!
It would be very hard, even if you have them on a table.

Lars
cuffs2023 15 Apr 2022
#8
Great concept but I just don't see this lasting. 

#1 Price- no agency will be willing to spend $329 for these 
#2 dirt/sand will cause / prevent the wire from retracting at some point
#3 major safety concern if someone was able to slip these in the front of them 

Tuff Kuffs was another interesting design but they never lasted. Most likely because of the high cost and those were only $100.
Bearded Mike 16 Apr 2022
#9
cuffs2023 wrote: ↑
Apr 15, 2022
Great concept but I just don't see this lasting. 

#1 Price- no agency will be willing to spend $329 for these 
#2 dirt/sand will cause / prevent the wire from retracting at some point
#3 major safety concern if someone was able to slip these in the front of them 

Tuff Kuffs was another interesting design but they never lasted. Most likely because of the high cost and those were only $100.
Apart from the cost, #2 above makes a very good point. Inevitably, standard cuffs attract dirt, dust etc so Spidercuffs will do exactly the same and it won't be long until it will inevitably get into the relatively complicated mechanism and cause failure at what would most likely be a critical part of a restraint situation.
cuffs2023 25 Aug 2022
#10
I'm still interested in seeing these. Any word when they will be available? 
djhalfdead 25 Aug 2022
#11
cuffs2023 wrote: ↑
Aug 25, 2022
I'm still interested in seeing these. Any word when they will be available? 
I have heard nothing more on them. I have sent two messages now, over the last few months and i havent heard anything back. Not sure what is going on or where they are at in production?
-Richard Knip-
CuffedUpInIrish 29 Aug 2022
#12
cuffs2023 wrote: ↑
Aug 25, 2022
I'm still interested in seeing these. Any word when they will be available? 
same!
cuffs2023 28 Jul 2023
#13
Has anyone bought a set of SpiderCuffs yet?  I am interested to know how they are. 
djhalfdead 28 Jul 2023
#14
Yes. It took over a year for them to finish up the line of cuffs and ship them to me. They are a nicely made cuff with some unique features. They are a bit bulky to carry around. I have the Model 1, Model 10 and a Model 40. The Model 1 is the one that stretches out, etc. The Model 10 Has the cuff bodies of the Model 1, but does not extend like the Model 1 does. The Model 40 Is a regular sized handcuff that does not stretch out, but is as thick as the other Spider Cuffs and still has the automatic Double Lock system.

I do like them, but they are expensive! I believe the Model 10 and the Model 40 are $180 ea. The Model 1 that everyone wants, is about $380 a set. Honestly, I dont see these being carried by patrol officers. I could see them used in transports or in a prison, etc, as a specialty cuff. The definitely do have some very unique features.
-Richard Knip-
cuffs2023 28 Jul 2023
#15
I agree patrol would not be using the model 1.  In prisons I don't see them using them.  Most inmates are already controlled in a cell  where there are secure.  When they are moved they are instructed to place their hands outside the slit in the door and then secured. This defeats the point of having the model 1, which would be most useful for people who are resisting. 
djhalfdead 28 Jul 2023
#16
The bodies of all of their cuffs are so much thicker than the body of an ASP cuff. And ASP cuffs need to use an ASP Holster or a double cuff holster, to put one cuff in. Spider Cuff has a company that makes holsters that their cuffs will fit in. But, that holster with a cuff in it, would be so bulky on an officer's belt. The police want their Patrol belts to be as lightweight as possible and to allow them to sit against a car seat comfortably. I just dont see these being carried by patrol officers. They would be good in a resistance to arrest type situation or to use on a person that is overweight and cannot get their hands very close together, behind their back, to fit a regular set of handcuffs on them.
-Richard Knip-


mummyslittleadmiral 28 Jul 2023
#17
I was fortunate to have a play with these.
I like the model 40. Chunky, chained and that cool no crush feature is ace.
It uses a very clever pawl mating face for the key to interact with as it has a steep angle. This causes tools to easily slip from interaction.
It has a keyway shield internally, but thus actually helps defeat the cuff.
The double lock is solid, but trivial to remove as its bar is super exposed via the keyway.
Shimming these is not an option due to the nature of the Anti crimp mechanism, it rather cleverly blocks access and restricted movement on the bow.
I can see people claiming these are pick proof as they will struggle to pick them.

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CuffedUpInIrish 20 Aug 2023
#18
djhalfdead wrote: ↑
Jul 28, 2023
The bodies of all of their cuffs are so much thicker than the body of an ASP cuff. And ASP cuffs need to use an ASP Holster or a double cuff holster, to put one cuff in. Spider Cuff has a company that makes holsters that their cuffs will fit in. But, that holster with a cuff in it, would be so bulky on an officer's belt. The police want their Patrol belts to be as lightweight as possible and to allow them to sit against a car seat comfortably. I just dont see these being carried by patrol officers. They would be good in a resistance to arrest type situation or to use on a person that is overweight and cannot get their hands very close together, behind their back, to fit a regular set of handcuffs on them.
-Richard Knip-


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This is so cool! Easy to get hold of?
djhalfdead 20 Aug 2023
#19
CuffedUpInIrish wrote: ↑
Aug 20, 2023
djhalfdead wrote: ↑
Jul 28, 2023
The bodies of all of their cuffs are so much thicker than the body of an ASP cuff. And ASP cuffs need to use an ASP Holster or a double cuff holster, to put one cuff in. Spider Cuff has a company that makes holsters that their cuffs will fit in. But, that holster with a cuff in it, would be so bulky on an officer's belt. The police want their Patrol belts to be as lightweight as possible and to allow them to sit against a car seat comfortably. I just dont see these being carried by patrol officers. They would be good in a resistance to arrest type situation or to use on a person that is overweight and cannot get their hands very close together, behind their back, to fit a regular set of handcuffs on them.
-Richard Knip-


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This is so cool! Easy to get hold of?
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Im not sure how their sales are being ran? Like i mentioned above, i ordered my sets over a year ago. I would imagine that they have gotten things caught up and are in regular production by now? As of the moment, sales are restricted to U.S. only, though. And as of March of 2023, many countries have changed their Customs shipping protocols to tighten up the loose ends they use to have. They now require a detailed description of what is being shipped. Product name, maker and model #. If you try to ship something and they feel there isnt enough information they will return it to sender for more detailed information, with no shipping refunds. Quite a few countries have changed to this new requirement with foreign shipping. The United States and the United Kingdom, have not changed, as of yet. Mostly its the E.U. countries and a handful of others.
-Richard Knip-