chriscuffs6
#1Just got another set of chain connected Gotcha handcuffs and they are different to the set I have. Does anyone know why they changed the keyway - they both take the same key.
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CuffedUpInIrish
#2Damn they look good! hard to find?
djhalfdead
#3Does that maybe help to line up the key to fit around the triangle piece on the center post?chriscuffs6 wrote: ↑Oct 08, 2022Just got another set of chain connected Gotcha handcuffs and they are different to the set I have. Does anyone know why they changed the keyway - they both take the same key.
-Richard Knip-
Mark Lyons O--O Cuffs
#4Before the 3 lobed style key (similar to the Judd)
The company made this 6 sided polygon or hexagonal style key.Â
The company made this 6 sided polygon or hexagonal style key.Â
KruegerKuffs
#5Paid the inventor for 2 cuffs, never got them. Hope he's in jail.
CuffedUpInIrish
#6Oh no way, that's awful! So sorry to hear that happened to you :(KruegerKuffs wrote: ↑Oct 09, 2022Paid the inventor for 2 cuffs, never got them. Hope he's in jail.
holstcollection
#7I don't have any Gothcha myself. It seems like they have a "locking wheel" rather than pawls. Like the Hungarian cuffs and Hiatt Reliant, right?Mark Lyons O--O Cuffs wrote: ↑Oct 09, 2022Before the 3 lobed style key (similar to the Judd)
The company made this 6 sided polygon or hexagonal style key.Â
CuffedUpInIrish
#8Does this have some sort of special function at all?holstcollection wrote: ↑Oct 09, 2022I don't have any Gothcha myself. It seems like they have a "locking wheel" rather than pawls. Like the Hungarian cuffs and Hiatt Reliant, right?Mark Lyons O--O Cuffs wrote: ↑Oct 09, 2022Before the 3 lobed style key (similar to the Judd)
The company made this 6 sided polygon or hexagonal style key.Â
holstcollection
#9I don't know what you mean with "special function" but it seems the lock mechanism on the Gotcha use a wheel instead of oridnary pawls. Just like the Hungarian cuffs in the picture I posted. The Hungarian cuffs only single lock but I believe the Gotcha double lock.CuffedUpInIrish wrote: ↑Click to expand...Oct 09, 2022Does this have some sort of special function at all?holstcollection wrote: ↑Oct 09, 2022I don't have any Gothcha myself. It seems like they have a "locking wheel" rather than pawls. Like the Hungarian cuffs and Hiatt Reliant, right?Mark Lyons O--O Cuffs wrote: ↑Oct 09, 2022Before the 3 lobed style key (similar to the Judd)
The company made this 6 sided polygon or hexagonal style key.Â
Unknown / guest
#10Removed posting as duplicated.
CuffedUpInIrish
#11Oh OK, that clears it up, thank you :) sorry for my ambiguous wording, I wasn't sure how to phrase it!holstcollection wrote: ↑Click to expand...Oct 09, 2022I don't know what you mean with "special function" but it seems the lock mechanism on the Gotcha use a wheel instead of oridnary pawls. Just like the Hungarian cuffs in the picture I posted. The Hungarian cuffs only single lock but I believe the Gotcha double lock.
djhalfdead
#12Cuffedup, the star wheel or locking wheel type design of the Gotcha, Takeda, Hungarian style cuffs cannot be shimmed. It is overall a safer method of locking than using a standard pawl system. There are a few cuff comapanies and designs that use this wheel in place of the pawl to hold the swing arm closed.
-Richard Knip-
-Richard Knip-
Mark Lyons O--O Cuffs
#13Gotcha handcuffs: Pick-proof and light weight
Founder: "In seven years we've had people try and no one can get out of our cuffs"
Dec 14, 2011
By Erin Hicks
As you are well aware, standard handcuffs are getting easier and easier to break out of. Gotcha Handcuffs by Taper International, based out of North Carolina, came up with a solution: A lightweight, handcuff that so far seems impossible to get out of.
The company started out in 2004 with their new patented locking mechanism-the first developed since 1862. The company's first handcuffs were made of steel and were met with happy reception-the only problem is they weighed around 12 ounces, making them cumbersome and hard to use.
Gotcha Handcuffs are developed for maximum protection. (Taper International Photo)
Always looking to improve the product, Bill Taper, founder and chairman of Taper International, parent company of Gotcha Handcuffs began working with a chemical company to develop cuffs made from lightweight, durable materials using the same unique locking mechanism.
"We worked a number of years to develop materials so our resulting product is a composite and steel handcuff that has been tested in the lab to be 25 percent stronger than a conventional cuff," said Taper. "The standard model weighs less than nine ounces and our light weight version, which uses carbon fiber material, will be less than seven ounces," he said.
They are also tested to be pick-proof since the conventional handcuff locking mechanism can be jimmied by a comb or any thin object. "Ours replace that mechanism with a gear and the teeth on the swing arm, so you have two gears with teeth intermeshed and they stay in constant contact unlike conventional cuffs, which makes them impossible to pick," Taper said.
"In seven years we've had people try and no one can get out of our cuffs. We even had Special Forces try to get out of them and ours was the only restraint they couldn't escape from."
The cuffs were shown at three events this past year, Mock Prison Riot, AJA and ILETTA, and Taper said officers were surprised at how light they were. Another feature he said officers were interested in was the fact the cheek plates and swing arm are molded so there are no sharp edges, therefore eliminating the problem of skin abrasions and bruises on inmates.
When asked why a CO would be interested in this product, columnist Dave Young who conducts training with Gotcha Handcuffs said this: "They have the ability to adjust from the smallest to the largest of wrist, there is a key hole on both sides and a different key is needed to open them than the standard key that "everyone and his brother" has a pair of."
The cuffs are tested and ready for production-however the company is on hiatus as they work to perfect the manufacturing process.
It hasn't always been easy pushing through engineering difficulties, but Taper said the officers motivate him to make his dream a reality. "What kept me going was feedback from the officers, who said to me 'man, if you can do what you say you're going to do, you're going to save lives.'"
He expects the cuffs to be available for sale around March of next year.
If you have any questions regarding orders, delivery, testing and evaluation of our products please e-mail bill@fbic-gotcha.com.
Gotcha handcuffs and leg restraints from Taper International are the only patented geared restraints in the world. Developed for maximum protection, Gotcha handcuffs cannot be picked, jimmied, or opened with a standard key.
Founder: "In seven years we've had people try and no one can get out of our cuffs"
Dec 14, 2011
By Erin Hicks
As you are well aware, standard handcuffs are getting easier and easier to break out of. Gotcha Handcuffs by Taper International, based out of North Carolina, came up with a solution: A lightweight, handcuff that so far seems impossible to get out of.
The company started out in 2004 with their new patented locking mechanism-the first developed since 1862. The company's first handcuffs were made of steel and were met with happy reception-the only problem is they weighed around 12 ounces, making them cumbersome and hard to use.
Gotcha Handcuffs are developed for maximum protection. (Taper International Photo)
Always looking to improve the product, Bill Taper, founder and chairman of Taper International, parent company of Gotcha Handcuffs began working with a chemical company to develop cuffs made from lightweight, durable materials using the same unique locking mechanism.
"We worked a number of years to develop materials so our resulting product is a composite and steel handcuff that has been tested in the lab to be 25 percent stronger than a conventional cuff," said Taper. "The standard model weighs less than nine ounces and our light weight version, which uses carbon fiber material, will be less than seven ounces," he said.
They are also tested to be pick-proof since the conventional handcuff locking mechanism can be jimmied by a comb or any thin object. "Ours replace that mechanism with a gear and the teeth on the swing arm, so you have two gears with teeth intermeshed and they stay in constant contact unlike conventional cuffs, which makes them impossible to pick," Taper said.
"In seven years we've had people try and no one can get out of our cuffs. We even had Special Forces try to get out of them and ours was the only restraint they couldn't escape from."
The cuffs were shown at three events this past year, Mock Prison Riot, AJA and ILETTA, and Taper said officers were surprised at how light they were. Another feature he said officers were interested in was the fact the cheek plates and swing arm are molded so there are no sharp edges, therefore eliminating the problem of skin abrasions and bruises on inmates.
When asked why a CO would be interested in this product, columnist Dave Young who conducts training with Gotcha Handcuffs said this: "They have the ability to adjust from the smallest to the largest of wrist, there is a key hole on both sides and a different key is needed to open them than the standard key that "everyone and his brother" has a pair of."
The cuffs are tested and ready for production-however the company is on hiatus as they work to perfect the manufacturing process.
It hasn't always been easy pushing through engineering difficulties, but Taper said the officers motivate him to make his dream a reality. "What kept me going was feedback from the officers, who said to me 'man, if you can do what you say you're going to do, you're going to save lives.'"
He expects the cuffs to be available for sale around March of next year.
If you have any questions regarding orders, delivery, testing and evaluation of our products please e-mail bill@fbic-gotcha.com.
Gotcha handcuffs and leg restraints from Taper International are the only patented geared restraints in the world. Developed for maximum protection, Gotcha handcuffs cannot be picked, jimmied, or opened with a standard key.
CuffedUpInIrish
#14This makes me want a pair even more!Mark Lyons O--O Cuffs wrote: ↑Click to expand...Oct 10, 2022Gotcha handcuffs: Pick-proof and light weight
Founder: "In seven years we've had people try and no one can get out of our cuffs"
Dec 14, 2011
By Erin Hicks
As you are well aware, standard handcuffs are getting easier and easier to break out of. Gotcha Handcuffs by Taper International, based out of North Carolina, came up with a solution: A lightweight, handcuff that so far seems impossible to get out of.
The company started out in 2004 with their new patented locking mechanism-the first developed since 1862. The company's first handcuffs were made of steel and were met with happy reception-the only problem is they weighed around 12 ounces, making them cumbersome and hard to use.
Gotcha Handcuffs are developed for maximum protection. (Taper International Photo)
Always looking to improve the product, Bill Taper, founder and chairman of Taper International, parent company of Gotcha Handcuffs began working with a chemical company to develop cuffs made from lightweight, durable materials using the same unique locking mechanism.
"We worked a number of years to develop materials so our resulting product is a composite and steel handcuff that has been tested in the lab to be 25 percent stronger than a conventional cuff," said Taper. "The standard model weighs less than nine ounces and our light weight version, which uses carbon fiber material, will be less than seven ounces," he said.
They are also tested to be pick-proof since the conventional handcuff locking mechanism can be jimmied by a comb or any thin object. "Ours replace that mechanism with a gear and the teeth on the swing arm, so you have two gears with teeth intermeshed and they stay in constant contact unlike conventional cuffs, which makes them impossible to pick," Taper said.
"In seven years we've had people try and no one can get out of our cuffs. We even had Special Forces try to get out of them and ours was the only restraint they couldn't escape from."
The cuffs were shown at three events this past year, Mock Prison Riot, AJA and ILETTA, and Taper said officers were surprised at how light they were. Another feature he said officers were interested in was the fact the cheek plates and swing arm are molded so there are no sharp edges, therefore eliminating the problem of skin abrasions and bruises on inmates.
When asked why a CO would be interested in this product, columnist Dave Young who conducts training with Gotcha Handcuffs said this: "They have the ability to adjust from the smallest to the largest of wrist, there is a key hole on both sides and a different key is needed to open them than the standard key that "everyone and his brother" has a pair of."
The cuffs are tested and ready for production-however the company is on hiatus as they work to perfect the manufacturing process.
It hasn't always been easy pushing through engineering difficulties, but Taper said the officers motivate him to make his dream a reality. "What kept me going was feedback from the officers, who said to me 'man, if you can do what you say you're going to do, you're going to save lives.'"
He expects the cuffs to be available for sale around March of next year.
If you have any questions regarding orders, delivery, testing and evaluation of our products please e-mail bill@fbic-gotcha.com.
Gotcha handcuffs and leg restraints from Taper International are the only patented geared restraints in the world. Developed for maximum protection, Gotcha handcuffs cannot be picked, jimmied, or opened with a standard key.
Gue
#15What is the value of a pair of Gotcha Handcuffs and Leg Cuffs?
djhalfdead
#16Could you please send me a picture of the cuffs you have? My email is iambiohazard@yahoo.com. I may be interested in making an offer. Thank you in advance.
-Richard Knip-
RAhandcuffs
#17That would be quite a score if you could one. It doesn't look like they exist anymore. The description of the gear mechanism doesn't explain the locking function, what holds the gear. The pictures of the keyway and key display a potential weakness....like s&w 94, things lying around could open them. A lighter, a plastic pen body and some effort and you have a working key.
I am sure it is a little more challenging than that but I don't see any posts or news after 2011. Carbon fiber wouldn't be the best handcuff material without a solid core. Certainly be interesting to see one of these up close.
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I am sure it is a little more challenging than that but I don't see any posts or news after 2011. Carbon fiber wouldn't be the best handcuff material without a solid core. Certainly be interesting to see one of these up close.
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Ian McColl
#18RAhandcuffs, a spring loaded pawl engages the gear to inhibate the direction. The spring is strong and key has a large bow to aid in the torque needed. The first hex key model was just a standard imperial hex size and the head of a hex bolt of the same size could and has been used for a key. The next model had a three sided key similar to a Judd key but the tri sides were curved. A Gotcha key works a Judd but not the reverse.
I have not seen the latest version in the patent, a coned key post with three detents for a matching key.
I have not seen the latest version in the patent, a coned key post with three detents for a matching key.
RAhandcuffs
#19Thanks, Ian, for that detail on the mechanism and the evolution of the key. So, if I understand correctly, the post indents mate with nodes inside the hollow key? So getting purchase on the post with anything other than a key becomes a leverage challenge?
BTW, in a life long ago, I had both your Russion Manacle and an early Mirror cuff.
I think Steve Santini ended up with those some time ago.
Cheers,
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BTW, in a life long ago, I had both your Russion Manacle and an early Mirror cuff.
I think Steve Santini ended up with those some time ago.
Cheers,
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Ian McColl
#20You are correct. If the same amount of torque was required on the coned key model, the key would really need to be held  perpendicular. I have no idea of how deep they intended the detents to be (not to shallow not to engage, or not to deep that anything can fit and be used) but a misaligned key that is turned would cauce damage like a loose adjustable spanner (wrench) on a nut. Thanks for once having my Russian Manacle and Mirror cuff. I hope they gave you pleasure at the time. After all the years that I stopped making them because of other's poor ethics, I still get requests for them. Regards IanRAhandcuffs wrote: ↑Click to expand...Jan 24, 2025Thanks, Ian, for that detail on the mechanism and the evolution of the key. So, if I understand correctly, the post indents mate with nodes inside the hollow key? So getting purchase on the post with anything other than a key becomes a leverage challenge?
BTW, in a life long ago, I had both your Russion Manacle and an early Mirror cuff.
I think Steve Santini ended up with those some time ago.
Cheers,
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